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Phinehas 04-29-2006 05:17 PM

Looks like we traded up!
 
Picking at 35!

--Phin

EXoffender 04-29-2006 05:23 PM

Re: Looks like we traded up!
 
Noooooooooooooooo!

EXoffender 04-29-2006 05:24 PM

Re: Looks like we traded up!
 
We gave away a 2007 2nd rounder and this year's 6th rounder to be able to draft McIntosh? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

JWsleep 04-29-2006 05:26 PM

Re: Looks like we traded up!
 
Wow--what is it that you don't like about this guy, Ex? (I feel a long-term, thread creating controversy coming! ABout time! ;))

budw38 04-29-2006 05:43 PM

Re: Looks like we traded up!
 
We are the only team in the NFL that has to trade multiple picks away to draft a player ? McIntosh would have likely been at 53 < shoulder & back > . Maybe we will trade next years 1st rd pick on Qb Croyle ?

EXoffender 04-29-2006 05:48 PM

Re: Looks like we traded up!
 
[quote=budw38]We are the only team in the NFL that has to trade multiple picks away to draft a player ? McIntosh would have likely been at 53 < shoulder & back > . Maybe we will trade next years 1st rd pick on Qb Croyle ?[/quote]Do we have any picks left? This is not how it's done.

EXoffender 04-29-2006 06:09 PM

Re: Looks like we traded up!
 
[quote=budw38]We are the only team in the NFL that has to trade multiple picks away to draft a player ? McIntosh would have likely been at 53 < shoulder & back > . Maybe we will trade next years 1st rd pick on Qb Croyle ?[/quote]We did work him out though. Health concerns shouldn't be a factor.

Phinehas 04-29-2006 07:45 PM

Re: Looks like we traded up!
 
What's dissappointing is that we only missed D'Qwell by one pick. :(

Was McIntosh really our guy, though, or did we settle for him once D'Qwell was taken?

--Phin

EXoffender 04-29-2006 07:48 PM

Re: Looks like we traded up!
 
[quote=Phinehas]What's dissappointing is that we only missed D'Qwell by one pick. :(

Was McIntosh really our guy, though, or did we settle for him once D'Qwell was taken?

--Phin[/quote]D'Q' was very productive. But it makes sense that we moved up to get McIntosh with the lack of talent available afterwards. There's a knock on everyone though.

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR 04-29-2006 08:05 PM

Re: Looks like we traded up!
 
What another dumb move by my team, when will the redskins ever respect the draft. trading a second rounder and a 6th to move up 16 spots. Can i say stupid. Thats the reason we will win nothing. Trading our number 1 this year for campbell, and the other picks involved in that trade when we could have got him later. Now trading all the picks for this guy,he might be good but come on. I might crap my pants if they ever traded down and got extra picks.

JWsleep 04-29-2006 08:07 PM

Re: Looks like we traded up!
 
According to Gibbs, McIntosh was really the guy. They were worried about a run on LBs, not about getting D'Q. They didn't believe McIntosh would be there at 53 (probably correct), and he's was their first target. (Check out the press conference on s[URL="http://www.redskins.com"]http://www.redskins.com[/URL])

Darrell_Green_28 04-29-2006 08:11 PM

Re: Looks like we traded up!
 
Come on guys.. have faith in Coach Gibbs im sure he knows what hes doing...

JWsleep 04-29-2006 08:14 PM

Re: Looks like we traded up!
 
[QUOTE=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]What another dumb move by my team, when will the redskins ever respect the draft. trading a second rounder and a 6th to move up 16 spots. Can i say stupid. Thats the reason we will win nothing. Trading our number 1 this year for campbell, and the other picks involved in that trade when we could have got him later. Now trading all the picks for this guy,he might be good but come on. I might crap my pants if they ever traded down and got extra picks.[/QUOTE]


Well, if you go by the "value charts" that the NFL teams use, they got a slightly higher value for their pick, depending on how we do next year, of course. It costs WAY more to move up into the first. Moving a shorter distance to insure you get your guy makes sense. Could they have gotten him at #53? I doubt it, and the skins very much didn't think so. Could they have gotten him at, say, #40? Maybe, but that requires the team with the #40 to want to trade. You can't just decide where to trade; you need a willing partner. The jets were good to go, so we moved. The sixth rounder isn't worth much (and we had 3), so we traded our the #53 and next years second. And we got the guy we wanted.

I guess you don't think McIntosh is all that good--otherwise, you'd value the move more. I'm not a scout or a coach, so I just have to trust someone here. Why not trust Gibbs? Or do you prefer the pundits on ESPN or FOX?

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR 04-29-2006 08:23 PM

Re: Looks like we traded up!
 
not saying he not good he might be great, my problem is we disregard the draft, we just throw picks away like they dont matter. so what now we only have a first next year on the first day, you can't just build a team on fa, you have to try to draft young talent and trust your scouts. The happiest day anyone has on draft day is the redskins call and taking advantage of us. I love gibbs but dont forget he said desmond howard had no holes. We could of had carl pickens in the draft and troy vincent.

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR 04-29-2006 08:26 PM

Re: Looks like we traded up!
 
dont forget gibbs got brunnell for a 3rd and 5 round pick when he was going to be release in a couple weeks just had to wait and we would have gotten him for free.


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