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hurrykaine 10-23-2005 04:21 PM

Remainder of the season: Conservative Predictions
 
Oct. 30 @ Giants: Loss
Nov. 6 vs. Eagles: loss
Nov. 13 @ Buccaneers: Win
Nov. 20 vs. Raiders: Win
Nov. 27 vs. Chargers: Loss
Dec. 4 @ Rams: Win
Dec. 11 @ Cardinals: Win
Dec. 18 vs. Cowboys: Loss
Dec. 24 vs. Giants: Win
Jan. 1 @ Eagles; Loss

This is a 9-7 record. Probably won't be enough for the playoffs, but:

If we can pull out wins against the Giants next week and split one with the Eagles, that's 11-5 with playoffs guaranteed.

TheMalcolmConnection 10-23-2005 04:23 PM

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The Eagles are straight up getting exposed, I really think we can take them. If LaVar is as dominant in all games as he was in this one, our D is ready to move back to the top.

hurrykaine 10-23-2005 04:27 PM

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The strong thing about the eagles is that even when they're down and out, they make enough big plays to stay in (or possibly win) the game.

Look at the blocked FG against SD today.

To win against the Eagles, the secondary must be healthy (no way we win with scrubs playing in the secondary), since all the eagles do is pass - their running game is non-existant.

AnonEmouse 10-23-2005 04:29 PM

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[QUOTE=hurrykaine]Oct. 30 @ Giants: Loss
Nov. 6 vs. Eagles: loss
Nov. 13 @ Buccaneers: Win
Nov. 20 vs. Raiders: Win
Nov. 27 vs. Chargers: Loss
Dec. 4 @ Rams: Win
Dec. 11 @ Cardinals: Win
Dec. 18 vs. Cowboys: Loss
Dec. 24 vs. Giants: Win
Jan. 1 @ Eagles; Loss
QUOTE]

Actually I'd say we can beat both the Eagles and the Giants. Form matters little in divisional games and I think that going forward we are carrying more momentum than any of our divisional rivals.

I'd say the losses are likely to be the Buccs, and maybe we split 3 or more division opponents. All the others are winnable. Remember we have a very good D that is now showing signs of getting their shit together.

hurrykaine 10-23-2005 04:33 PM

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse]All the others are winnable. Remember we have a very good D that is now showing signs of getting their shit together.[/QUOTE]

I'm not confident we can stop San Diego - hands down, the most dangerous offense left on our schedule, so in a conservative prediction, I would write that as a loss.

redrock-skins 10-23-2005 04:38 PM

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[QUOTE=hurrykaine]I'm not confident we can stop San Diego - hands down, the most dangerous offense left on our schedule, so in a conservative prediction, I would write that as a loss.[/QUOTE]

We ought to study whatever Philly did today. They shut down LT.

Wanga Skins 10-23-2005 04:50 PM

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There is no reason any game should be considered a loss before we play it considering the way our team has played this year. You could say philly and dallas always beat us but, woops, not this year!!! Outside of the AFC West I feel VERY confident!!!

Schneed10 10-23-2005 04:52 PM

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I think Oakland, STL, and Arizona all are TERRIBLE. I think those are wins. Of the 5 NFC East games remaining, I think it's very possible for us to go 3-2. That would give us 10 wins. And I think the Chargers and Bucs (sans Greise) are both beatable. Figure 1-1 for them.

By that count we'd go 11-5. But even if we go 2-3 against the NFC East, that's still 10-6.

The team can't look ahead though, they have to go one game at a time. They really need to beat the Giants next weekend.

Schneed10 10-23-2005 04:54 PM

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Hurrykaine, I think your predictions are extremely conservative. At minimum we're looking at 9-7.

djnemo65 10-23-2005 05:02 PM

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I've been watching this league long enough to know that guessing outcomes week to week is a complete waste of time. We'll lose games we should win and vice versa. What is more important is the impressive execution we have shown through our first six games. Based on that, I would approximate that 10 wins seems about reasonable.

skinsguy 10-23-2005 05:11 PM

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If we win the next two games, we'll finish no worse than 10-6. I predicted that if we beat Dallas in week 2, it would decide how our season would go. So far, I believe I'm right.

redrock-skins 10-23-2005 05:12 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsguy]If we win the next two games, we'll finish no worse than 10-6. I predicted that if we beat Dallas in week 2, it would decide how our season would go. So far, I believe I'm right.[/QUOTE]

Since those TD passes to Moss against Dallas, it has been a whole new offense.

That Guy 10-23-2005 05:38 PM

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i think we're looking at 10-6, but could do better if our D stops giving up 80yard runs every game...

skinsguy 10-23-2005 05:43 PM

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One thing is for sure, neither the Eagles nor the Giants can afford to play us close. I also don't believe neither are capable of putting us away early - which also proves not to work. They are going to have to hope we put the ball on the ground. Basically, they're going to have to rely on us beating ourselves like we did the last two weeks.

MTK 10-23-2005 06:35 PM

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Nobody on the schedule really scares me, right now the Skins are capable of beating anybody.

If they just go 6-4 the rest of the way that gets them to 10 wins and in all likelihood a playoff spot.

htownskinfan 10-23-2005 08:37 PM

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[QUOTE=redrock-skins]We ought to study whatever Philly did today. They shut down LT.[/QUOTE]
thats because theyve got trotter playing like a monster for them against the run,(I didnt see the game,just a guess)

dblanch66 10-23-2005 08:57 PM

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]I think Oakland, STL, and Arizona all are TERRIBLE. I think those are wins. Of the 5 NFC East games remaining, I think it's very possible for us to go 3-2. That would give us 10 wins. And I think the Chargers and Bucs (sans Greise) are both beatable. Figure 1-1 for them.

By that count we'd go 11-5. But even if we go 2-3 against the NFC East, that's still 10-6.

The team can't look ahead though, they have to go one game at a time. They really need to beat the Giants next weekend.[/QUOTE]
Good point. The bucs have Rattay now. I don't like their chances anymore but let's see what Gruden does now. Greise was not great, but he knew the system and was efficient.

GoSkins! 10-23-2005 09:00 PM

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Here is the thing:
The NFC East has become the dominant NFC division again. Whoever wins our division should have the best chance at going to the SuperBowl. Right now, we control our own destiny after 6 games. I'm very happy with that.

There are some tough games on the schedule ahead of us. If we are a good team, and I think we are, then we win the most of the tough games and win all of the games against weaker teams. We have proved that we should expect to win every week. And, by the way, now we have Lavar back!

JoeRedskin 10-23-2005 09:12 PM

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Just for Kicks here's my thoughts:

Oct. 30 v. Giants: Win
Nov. 6 vs. Eagles: Win
Nov. 13 @ Buccaneers: Loss
Nov. 20 vs. Raiders: Win
Nov. 27 vs. Chargers: Loss
Dec. 4 @ Rams: Win
Dec. 11 @ Cardinals: Win
Dec. 18 vs. Cowboys: Win
Dec. 24 vs. Giants: Win
Jan. 1 @ Eagles; Loss


But I think we can pretty much beat anybody on the schedule - Week to week, it's just a matter of how focused we are and how the ball bounces.

I am already planning for the Skins first home playoff game in 6 (?) years.

scowan 10-23-2005 09:57 PM

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The great thing going for the Redskins right now, is that their 2 loses are against the AFC, which in the tiebreaker situations is way down the list. As long as they keep winning NFC games, that will help tremendously in the tiebreaker department.

ST21 10-23-2005 10:00 PM

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]Just for Kicks here's my thoughts:

Oct. 30 v. Giants: Win
Nov. 6 vs. Eagles: Win
Nov. 13 @ Buccaneers: Loss
Nov. 20 vs. Raiders: Win
Nov. 27 vs. Chargers: Loss
Dec. 4 @ Rams: Win
Dec. 11 @ Cardinals: Win
Dec. 18 vs. Cowboys: Win
Dec. 24 vs. Giants: Win
Jan. 1 @ Eagles; Loss


But I think we can pretty much beat anybody on the schedule - Week to week, it's just a matter of how focused we are and how the ball bounces.

I am already planning for the Skins first home playoff game in 6 (?) years.[/QUOTE]

I sent my friend who is a big Patriots fan an email about a week ago, saying that we would lose to the Chiefs on some fluke, insident (fumble) and we would kill the 49ers, something Dallas had a hard time doing.....go figure, but after that I said we would be 4-2 and if we won 5 out of the next 10 games we could be 9-7 which would put us in the wild card, but if we could queeze out 6 of that 10, then were guarenteed a playoff spot, this is a big step for us, if your not sure how well were doing check out our divisions wins against the teams we've played and they have played, if we beat the Giants and the Eagles the week after were 6-2 in first place and on pace to win 11 games so its realistic to go 10-6 make the playoffs beat Minnesota or Chicago and move to the next round......I believe 10-6 is the right prediction

FRPLG 10-23-2005 10:06 PM

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We can beat any team in the league hands down. Not in an 'any given sunday' way either. We play our game we don't lose another game. Period. Now clearly that is not reasonable but I think we do have a reasonable shot to go 10-6 or 11-5. It's all about injuries at this point. Keep Brunell, Moss, o-line healthy and get our secondary back at full strength and we are a force week in and week out. It can't be seen any other way.

FRPLG 10-23-2005 10:08 PM

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And if we go 4-2 against the divison for the year that make us 7-4 without counting the other games. Then we'd need 3-2 against outside division opponents which certainly doable.

SUNRA 10-23-2005 10:17 PM

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I've looked at our schedule this year a thousand times and I still see us winning the division. One reason is we play the Eagles at home on the first match-up. Secondly, I see us winning both against the Giants and Eagles and destroying Dallas in December.

The Redskins in defeat, have dominated every opponent in time of possession. In fact, we lead the league in that area. This is crucial if we are to win our division and secure a home field advantage later on. I think to predict a loss to any team at this crucial point has to difficult because no team we have to face has been as consistent as we have as playing for 60 minutes and never surrendering until the clock says 0:00.
I'm glad we lost two games in the early part of the season because those games allowed us to see our weaknesses and make the neccessary adjustments. Lavar fits right in that equation. Redskins record 12-4.

FRPLG 10-23-2005 10:24 PM

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]I've looked at our schedule this year a thousand times and I still see us winning the division. One reason is we play the Eagles at home on the first match-up. Secondly, I see us winning both against the Giants and Eagles and destroying Dallas in December.

The Redskins in defeat, have dominated every opponent in time of possession. In fact, we lead the league in that area. This is crucial if we are to win our division and secure a home field advantage later on. I think to predict a loss to any team at this crucial point has to difficult because no team we have to face has been as consistent as we have as playing for 60 minutes and never surrendering until the clock says 0:00.
I'm glad we lost two games in the early part of the season because those games allowed us to see our weaknesses and make the neccessary adjustments. Lavar fits right in that equation. Redskins record 12-4.[/QUOTE]I love the optimism! Good to see it around here after the last couple of weeks.

Longtimefan 10-23-2005 10:28 PM

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Let's not let JG hear us making any of these predictions because he would think we all have lost it. lol The way we're playing now 10-6 seems within reach. I feel that our focus now is in the realization we can control what happens in the NFC east. I also concur with those who maintain we can beat any team in the league if we 1. Don't turn the ball over, 2 Don't accumulate stupid penalties 3 Win the give-away-take away battle. It's good to be in the position where we control our own destiny and not have to depend on others. It's all up to us.

Go Redskins!!! Playoffs in 05 for sure.

BigSKINBauer 10-23-2005 10:50 PM

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what will be good enough to let us win the division???
I say 11 wins will tie it so if we win all of our divisional games we will break the tie breaker. 12 will win it

What is good enough to get us a playoff spot through wildcard???
i say we need atleast 10

JoeRedskin 10-23-2005 11:01 PM

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Jan 1, 2007 - Redskins beat Philly in Philly to go 12-4 and lock up home field advantage throughout the playoffs.

After the bye, we get Dallas. We beat them. Soundly.

Then we get Philly (who has beaten Seattle) and destroy them sending the Philly fans into a deathspin which sucks the entire blight that is known as Philadelphia into a black hole reserved for 4-time losers.

Then we play Indi and Gibbs gets his 4th SB as we beat Indi 34 - 10.

Oh wait - this was supposed to be conservative predictions, fine...

We beat Indi 21 - 10.

bertoskins 10-23-2005 11:07 PM

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If we split win against the eagles and the giants then
we go to the playoffs

Longtimefan 10-23-2005 11:16 PM

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I agree 10 wins may be good enough to get us a wild card if a wild card will come from the NFC east. I'm hoping for 12 wins and the division, plus HF advantage. There's no reason why 12 wins should be considered a stretch because I think we're capable of taking the Giants and Philly. The NFC east is strong enough to produce a wild card winner, but what division do you feel will produce the other WC winner? Our best chances in the PO is with HF. that's why I'm hoping for 11-12 wins. We have stiff competition and that seems to make us play better. Not only that, when we beat the better teams it makes us more worthy of playoff caliber consideration.

diehardskin2982 10-23-2005 11:33 PM

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Oct. 30 @ Giants: Win
Nov. 6 vs. Eagles: Win
Nov. 13 @ Buccaneers: Win
Nov. 20 vs. Raiders: Win
Nov. 27 vs. Chargers: Win
Dec. 4 @ Rams: Win
Dec. 11 @ Cardinals: Win
Dec. 18 vs. Cowboys: Win
Dec. 24 vs. Giants: Win
Jan. 1 @ Eagles; Win

My honest accessment, This game was a major confidence booster and I honestly think we can go without losing, if we don't have any major injuries. A confident redskins team is very hard to beat, and I think this year we are proving that we will not lose at home!

djnemo65 10-23-2005 11:46 PM

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The way the NFC is working out so far I dont think there's any reason to believe someone won't get in with 8 wins.

kingerock 10-24-2005 01:38 AM

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I give us victories against the Raiders, Rams and Cards. We can beat the Eagles and Giants at home, that gives us 9. At Tampa Bay could be difficult, but without Griese we should be able to take advantage of Sims. The Chargers showed that L.T. is human after all and a game in D.C. in late November could be cold and snow, not good for a California Sun team.

I think either the week 16 game against NYG or the week 17 game against PHI can be a win for us. If we are working toward a wildcard at that point, then one of those teams will have locked the east title. We'll be playing against 2nd string, resting Eli or Donovan, Shockey, or T.O. and who knows who actually gets playing time on defense or the rest of the skill positions.

With the way we've played so far, our ability to make the big play, and being able to be in the game till the final whistle, we could win 11 this season and not be a stretch.

Dirtbag 10-24-2005 03:21 AM

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We have GOT to get a split in the next two games, and maintain momentum. Remember, the 49ers are a terrible team, so don't get too giddy over this win. We need to prove we can string wins together, and can win on the road.

bedlamVR 10-24-2005 08:39 AM

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I think we have a chance at the very least a winning record . But our fate really depends on what happens around the NFCE.

The Eagles are squeaking by teams week in week out there is something broken there and I am not sure they know how to fix it but they will have to to regain thier team to beat status . The GMen just got past the Broncos but they were playing them at home not the Bronco fortress that is Mile High . As for the Cowboys they are the team in the bigest state of flux right now. Another killer of a defeat in the dying seconds to a team that is good but not great (the Seahawks) has to hurt. They have shown ability to get past good teams and have on paper enough talent to win, BUT the loss of Adams at LT is going to cause problems on the O line which is going to seriously impact on Bledsoe and in turn the running game.

What would be a killer is if we finish tied in second place with the Giants and a tiebreaker gives them the nod for a wildcard spot which would be particulary gaulling because they were gifted that extra home game against the Saints . Not saying the Saints would have won anywhere else but gives you something to think about .

Hijinx 10-24-2005 11:37 AM

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These 2 games coming up are the biggest back to back games of the year. The Skins go 2-0 here and playoffs are almost asured, 2 loses means doubt starts to creep in and I dont think they'll make it. I do believe that the Redskins can win these 2 games. The Eagles' running game has disappeared and is beatable any given week and the Giants just aren't as good as their record shows. Three of their wins were vs the Siants, Cards, and Rams all at home(dispite what the NFL called that Siants fiasco). These are not good teams.

skinsguy 10-24-2005 12:21 PM

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And playing Denver AT HOME. Playing us next week, AT HOME. Are the Giants ever going to play another road game?

skindogger47 10-24-2005 12:53 PM

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Mark my words we will beat the shit out of Simms and the Bucs. The only games we have potential to lose are the Chargers and the Eagles in Philly. If we can stay healthy, that is. The Eagles got lucky, as lucky as you can get this week and the Cowboys crushed them last week. The Eagles are done, I'm more worried about the Giants.

BDBohnzie 10-24-2005 04:20 PM

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I know it's not conservative, however, the team is playing balls to the wall right now, and that momentum will carry them. The games that worry me are the away rival games, the Bucs, Chargers, and Rams. The Rams always play well at home, and if Bruce and Holt are healthy...

Oct. 30 @ Giants: Win (5-2)
Nov. 6 vs. Eagles: Win (6-2)
Nov. 13 @ Buccaneers: Win (7-2)
Nov. 20 vs. Raiders: Win (8-2)
Nov. 27 vs. Chargers: Loss (8-3)
Dec. 4 @ Rams: Win (9-3)
Dec. 11 @ Cardinals: Win (10-3)
Dec. 18 vs. Cowboys: Win (11-3)
Dec. 24 vs. Giants: Win (12-3)
Jan. 1 @ Eagles; Loss (12-4)

I see anywhere from 8-8 to 12-4.

coggs 10-24-2005 04:55 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsguy]If we win the next two games, we'll finish no worse than 10-6. I predicted that if we beat Dallas in week 2, it would decide how our season would go. So far, I believe I'm right.[/QUOTE]
If the skins win their next two, you guys will be thinking 13-3, 12-4 and home-field.


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