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Gibbs said it in the press conference
i hate brunell!!!!
where does he live....im gonna go kill him

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[quote]Asked if the decision to start Brunell was related to the neck sprain, Gibbs said: "I think Patrick's fine." [/quote]
die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[QUOTE=steveo395]Gibbs said it in the press conference
i hate brunell!!!!
where does he live....im gonna go kill him

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die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]

seems a bit harsh to go that far... don't you think?

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I don't know what to think except that I believe coach Gibbs knows exactly what he is doing.

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[QUOTE=kingerock]seems a bit harsh to go that far... don't you think?[/QUOTE]
no....no i dont

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso]I don't know what to think except that I believe coach Gibbs knows exactly what he is doing.[/QUOTE]
That is the most sensible post I have seen on this subject.

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Harsh is not the word, and I think Gibbs is letting the media drive him to play Brunell and prove critiques wrong in their assessment that it was a horrible move. I read somewhere that Buges mentioned Gibbs is on a mission and saw veins bulging at the criticism he took last year in his offense and coaching abilities. I think he has taking it to far with trying to prove Brunell is the starter for this team. I don't care what our defense can do, but all the three and outs we are going to suffer will wear on the defense as the year goes on. Damn this sucks, but as being a fan I will continue to watch as long as it does not get to painful.

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This just confirms in my mind thaat Gibbs never liked Ramsey to begin with. Boy after all the promises of sticking with his starter he sure did give Patrick a short lease. This is ludacris. I respect Gibbs a lot but this is a BONEHEAD move. What is he thinking.. he loves Brunell so much he should marry him.. I am really mad about this



[QUOTE=kingerock]seems a bit harsh to go that far... don't you think?[/QUOTE]

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I know a lot of people think that Gibbs is stubborn and he's trying to force Brunell to look good so that people think he is right. DON'T WE KNOW GIBBS BETTER THAN THIS?

He wants to win, first and foremost. If he feels Brunell will give us a better chance of winning, then by God, I'll stand behind him on that.

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[QUOTE=kingerock]seems a bit harsh to go that far... don't you think?[/QUOTE]

With harsh I was meaning to say you wanted to kill Brunell.

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As long as we beat the Cowboys I don't care if Sean Taylor is the starting QB!

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Gibbs just speaking with George and Sonny on chanel 4 at 6:00 pm stated that Brunell will be the starter for Monday night's game with the Cowboys. Not really suprising!!!

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[QUOTE=kingerock]With harsh I was meaning to say you wanted to kill Brunell.[/QUOTE]

I'd just say Stevo was fully committed to his opinion. Violently, but fully comitted.

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The more I see all of our reactions, the more entertained how chapped our asses got over the whole Brunell deal last year in the first place.

I think we've all said it: You have to play nearly mistake-free football to win games.

No matter who it is, they hand the ball to Portis and we run the ball. That's our offense. We have a passing game that's not geared to put up 300-400 yards, but to pick on secondaries that line up to stop Portis.

If you can remember the times that we lost last year, they were due to penalties (which seem cut down this year) and turnovers.

I think Gibbs is trying to eliminate the latter. For example, taking A. Brown out for kick return duty.

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That's cool...I'm glad he's starting, I loved when false starts meant the end for drives.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]I know a lot of people think that Gibbs is stubborn and he's trying to force Brunell to look good so that people think he is right. DON'T WE KNOW GIBBS BETTER THAN THIS?

He wants to win, first and foremost. If he feels Brunell will give us a better chance of winning, then by God, I'll stand behind him on that.[/QUOTE]

It's obvious that he wants to win and thinks Brunell gives the team the best chance. I disagree, but more to the point I wish he hadn't announced a starter. Make the Cowboys game plan for both... ah well. I'm hoping like hell for a win, but honestly they are going to gang up on the run and dare Brunell to pass. I'm just shocked by what a raw deal Ramsey is getting out of all of this. I kept trying to tell myself he'd play here for a long time and be great, but I think this shows he'll be gone after this season. Trent Green Part II.

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Yup, Ramsey is definitely getting the shaft, but I gotta' say you either put up or shut up. I'll support whoever is the starter and I definitely agree that they should not have annouced the starter yet (Maybe Ramsey IS the starter and Gibbs is being scheisty).

I really do think that if Brunell can keep up the accuracy he had in the preseason, he gives us a chance to win.

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso]As long as we beat the Cowboys I don't care if Sean Taylor is the starting QB![/QUOTE]
hes probably better than brunell

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I hope they just leave Ramsey on the bench and then trade him somewhere where he'll have the chance to torch us.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Yup, Ramsey is definitely getting the shaft, but I gotta' say you either put up or shut up. I'll support whoever is the starter and I definitely agree that they should not have annouced the starter yet (Maybe [b]Ramsey IS the starter and Gibbs is being scheisty).[/b]

I really do think that if Brunell can keep up the accuracy he had in the preseason, he gives us a chance to win.[/QUOTE]
you just blew my mind....that would be amazing if that was true, but i know that its not...uuhhhh fire brunell

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I can just picture that, Dallas will get him and he'll be just what they needed to return to glory. Pardon me, I must now go throw up having envisioned that.

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as a skins fan, i feel compelled to believe joe gibbs knows what he's doing. i have the utmost faith in him, and while i feel really bad for putting patrick through this whole ordeal, it won't deter my faith from gibbs.

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I hope that Gibbs realizes that Brunell is not that great after this game against Dallas.

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You need some sort of threat of a passing game to have an effective run, Clintons 18 lbs he put on needs to be more like 40 to take the damn beating in the box that is going to be stacked on him. I know my complaining is not going to change the nightmare that I came home to from today, but please tell me I will wake up.

Turnovers can kill your team, but no offense at all is complete and utterly painful to watch and still lose. Geez we have got to be the biggest laughing stock in the NFL. I know I trust in Gibbs and did all last year, but at sometime I have to ask what the hell are the motives? What is he thinking, he says he knows the NFL has changed drastically, but I do not see where he has really grasped that with personnel moves he is making and the logic we are using behind our defense is good enough to win games with no offense. Good Luck Patrick next year when you go on to great things and win a championship for another team or at least solidify yourself and enjoy the playoffs, while we still sit here and chat on the board about how Brunell is ineffective and in two years hopefully we got a Mcnabb type QB and not a Jeff Blake.

Hurting Skins Fan!!!!

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I just dont see how anybody can have faith in brunell. I mean we all know ramsey isnt the next peyton manning but brunell has only showed positive signs once in 2 years and that was against backup defenses this preason.

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[QUOTE=jdlea]I hope they just leave Ramsey on the bench and then trade him somewhere where he'll have the chance to torch us.[/QUOTE]

spoken like a true fan. :rolleyes:

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mcnabb type quarterback, you say. *coughjasoncampbellcough*, i think he will be our starting qb next year if brunell sucks this year.

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[QUOTE=mooby]mcnabb type quarterback, you say. *coughjasoncampbellcough*, i think he will be our starting qb next year if brunell sucks this year.[/QUOTE]
you mean when brunell sucks

i hope ramsey has a great career with another team(other than the cowboys) and freaking kills joe gibbs and the redskins

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[QUOTE=skinsfan0201]I hope that Gibbs realizes that Brunell is not that great after this game against Dallas.[/QUOTE]
We definitely don't want to find out how bad Brunell after this game. Of all weeks, not Dallas.

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Hear me out on this one.. What I would like to see happen at this point is for Ramsey to be demoted to #3 and Campbell instilled as the backup. Gibbs wants to win this year and he doesn't beleive that Ramsey can do the job. Ride Brunold as long as you can, if he's winning then fine, keep up the good job, if not, let's go to Campbell and get ready for the future. Ramsey doesn't need to see the field again as a Redskin. It's clear he won't be a Redskin after this season so if the coaching staff has no faith in him then don't waste time working with another teams QB and develop Campbell.

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[QUOTE=steveo395]
i hope ramsey has a great career with another team(other than the cowboys) and freaking kills joe gibbs and the redskins[/QUOTE]

seems a little too violent! You should never mention kill joe gibbs in any sentence ever!!!:mad:

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[QUOTE=steveo395]
i hope ramsey has a great career with another team(other than the cowboys) and freaking kills joe gibbs and the redskins[/QUOTE]

That's rediculous. We're fans, remember? You can have opinions about who should be the starter and all, but to wish harm to that you root for? Come on.

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[QUOTE=Wanga Skins]seems a little too violent! You should never mention kill joe gibbs in any sentence ever!!!:mad:[/QUOTE]
if brunell starts i'll do what i want

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[QUOTE=steveo395]if brunell starts i'll do what i want[/QUOTE]
I do hope you're a teenager, it would be sad if a mature adult thought like that.

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If we lose to Dallas, and it relates to the similar instances of last year, I will not know what to say except..... please tell our coaches how incompetent we look when we make such moves and insert Ramsey back into the postition and give him the real shot he truely deserves.

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Well I have gone on record as saying I don't think last year was all Brunell's fault. And regardless of the fact that it was against 2nd stringers this preseason Brunell showed that he still makes good decisions and has some zip on his passes. I was happy to see that Brunell could still play this game and was pleased to see that we had a solid backup QB who could step in when called upon.

Well now he's been called upon and I'll be driving the Brunell Bandwagon with Matty riding shotgun. I'll be in a neighborhood near you next Tuesday morning to pick up the Redskins fans that want to get on board.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Well now he's been called upon and I'll be driving the Brunell Bandwagon with Matty riding shotgun. I'll be in a neighborhood near you next Tuesday morning to pick up the Redskins fans that want to get on board.[/QUOTE]
As long as Gibbs is calling the shots you can count me on board!!:dallas:

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I think we need to have faith in our legendary Coach and the team we support.

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[QUOTE=Wanga Skins]As long as Gibbs is calling the shots you can count me on board!!:dallas:[/QUOTE]
Couldn't have said it better myself.

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This had to have been a tough call for Gibbs. Does anyone really believe that he made this call all by himself? I know he has the final decision, but I have to think that Williams, Burns, Bugel, and Musgrave had plenty of input on it.

Now, for those of you out there blaming Joe for making this decision, would you be so upset if you found out the Greg Williams went to Joe and said they needed to make the change? They may believe that Ramsey is just a sitting duck and Dallas is going to kill him?

I know that if I were a defensive coordinator I would have looked at the bears game and decided to take my chances with all else blitzes. It looks like Ramsey is going to cough up the ball every other time.

I'm sorry but the message was simple, protect the ball or I'll have to use some means other than words to convince you. Don't forget Gibbs did this to Rypien.

What a joke
 

Gibbs went from being a hopeful savior to now the making us the laughing stock of the NFL. It is funny that he stuck w/ Brunell so long last season went he stunk up the joint and now after one qtr of play he pulls Ramsey based on "performance reasons." Lets compare yesterday's stats Ramsey 18 mins and 52 secs was 6 for 11 for 105 yards 1 Int. The int was the first drive and adrenaline may have had something to do with it. The fumble was no way his fault, should have been a 15 yard penalty and it would have been first and 10 from the 7. Brunell in 41 mins and 8 secs. was 8 for 14 for 70 yards. No TDs and he had Portis & Betts totaling 150 yards. Performance my butt! It is for no other reason but he didn't pick PR himself.
No other league personnel feel that MB has what it takes anymore except for Gibbs. I keep hearing the Brunnel looked good in the preseaon, He played against the scrubs in every game. Remember when Danny Wuerfel & Shane Matthews (sp) looked good in preason! If he isn't going to play Ramsey might as well go ahead and play Campbell and give this season a purpose b/c with Brunell in there it is a worthless cause. 8 men in the box forcing him to make those cupcakes deep balls he throws. Gibbs better be glad we don't have a home game for 3 weeks b/c he won't have to listen to the fans booing. Can't wait for the skins to look like morons on MNF next week.
The Skins are going to trade Ramsey and watch he will turn oout to being the next Bret Favre. Ramsey ask to go to Baltimore, You would thrive there!