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12thMan 09-02-2005 12:10 PM

Ex-Skins this Preseason
 
With the departure of Smoot, Pierce, and Baily the year before, how do we feel about the corner situation now that preseason is finally over. And has Marshall been an adequate replacement for Pierce?

By the way, how have those guys played with their respective new teams this pre-season? Other than Pierce, I haven't heard much.

illdefined 09-02-2005 12:32 PM

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what are they saying about Pierce? how's he look?

i'm in nyc, i can't even bear to watch.

Big C 09-02-2005 12:47 PM

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our cb situation is fine. i feel good about our defense as a whole. Marshall is an adequate replacement for Pierce.

12thMan 09-02-2005 12:54 PM

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[QUOTE=illdefined]what are they saying about Pierce? how's he look?

i'm in nyc, i can't even bear to watch.[/QUOTE]

All I know is he had a fumble recovery a couple of weeks ago. Other than that I haven't heard much. Neither I have heard anything on Smoot.

I think that C.Griff and Salave'a will be even better this year in the middle and that will help Marshall a lot. Not to mention ole #56 back on the field.

I feel good about the CB situation as well. I think Carlos will be starting possibly after the bye week.

backrow 09-02-2005 01:03 PM

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I saw where Sultan McCullough had nearly 100 yds. rushing, Sage had a great game for Miami, Iffy was picked up by Cincy, DMac by Phily. I don't much care about the gynts, and haven't checked on the State of the Union in Minn.

12thMan 09-02-2005 01:12 PM

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I saw that where Sultan had a good game. I think anybody could play for Miami right now - Sage may get shot later.

RedskinsNo.1 09-02-2005 01:18 PM

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[QUOTE=12thMan]All I know is he had a fumble recovery a couple of weeks ago. Other than that I haven't heard much. [b]Neither I have heard anything on Smoot[/b].

I think that C.Griff and Salave'a will be even better this year in the middle and that will help Marshall a lot. Not to mention ole #56 back on the field.

I feel good about the CB situation as well. I think Carlos will be starting possibly after the bye week.[/QUOTE]

he won't have been playing much i would have thought as the vikes won't want him injured

skin4Life28 09-02-2005 01:42 PM

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I thought Smoot is injured, so there keeping him out to get him ready to go for the season.

backrow 09-02-2005 02:39 PM

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The vi-queens play tonight! Smoot might make a minor appearance, just like our starters did.

Hog1 09-02-2005 02:46 PM

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The D will be better than last year. They have looked great starters on starters. The return of Lavar has softened the blow of losing A.Pierce. Gone and.......................forgotten

BossHog 09-02-2005 03:29 PM

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There's still some concern. But I guess you can say no individual is better than the team as a whole. And guys still look as if they're not on the same page. :oink:

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 09-02-2005 04:29 PM

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I saw the Giants game and Pierce looked really good; he was in on a lot of tackles and almost got a safety on Curtis Martin. He's the one recently departed Redskin that I think we could miss.

Smoot hasn't seen much time in Minnesota due to injury, but he'll be a good addition to the Vikings defense. While I'm not confident that Rogers can step in immediately and play as well as Smoot would, he'll probably be a better fit for us in the long haul. Smoot was a cover guy and that's about it; his size limited his ability to blitz and stuff the run effectively. Rogers is a much more versatile back; he can cover, blitz, stuff the run, and is generally a better tackler.

STPainmaker 09-02-2005 06:18 PM

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[QUOTE=12thMan]I saw that where Sultan had a good game. I think anybody could play for Miami right now - Sage may get shot later.[/QUOTE]

If Frerotte goes down in Miami I think Rosenfels will be 2nd in line because Feeley is pulling a Chad Hutchinson. Feeley has looked worse than he did last year. He makes some Ramseyesque decisions with incomprehensible pick offs to wide open cb's.

SmootSmack 09-02-2005 06:26 PM

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[QUOTE=12thMan]I saw that where Sultan had a good game. I think anybody could play for Miami right now - [I]Sage may get shot later[/I].[/QUOTE]

Say what you will about his play, but I've always thought Sage was a pretty decent person so I sure hope no one shoots him. ;)

12thMan 09-02-2005 07:25 PM

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Say what you will about his play, but I've always thought Sage was a pretty decent person so I sure hope no one shoots him. ;)[/QUOTE]

lol

12thMan 09-02-2005 07:48 PM

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[QUOTE=STPainmaker]If Frerotte goes down in Miami I think Rosenfels will be 2nd in line because Feeley is pulling a Chad Hutchinson. Feeley has looked worse than he did last year. He makes some Ramseyesque decisions with incomprehensible pick offs to wide open cb's.[/QUOTE]

The more the QB Miami situation unfolds, and the more our own QB situation unfolds, I wouldn't be totally suprised to see Ramsey scuttled off to Miami next season - even before the trade deadline isn't totally out of the question, IMO.

Here's a scenerio where that could happen:

1. Ramsey plays adequate but by no means has the team where they should be. Let's say 3-3.

2. Miami flip-flops between QBs at least twice before we get to the half- way mark in the season and Nick Saben grows impatient with his current stall of inept QBs.

*Remember last year there was talk about PR going to Miami after Brunell came to town?

BleedBurgundy 09-02-2005 10:28 PM

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As far as Ramsey going to the Dolphins goes...Let's hope not... I think we need stability... I watched the Giants-Jets game and Pierce looked great, last year was definitely not a fluke.

AnonEmouse 09-03-2005 03:15 AM

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Gibbs won't trade Ramsey unless they come up with a real good offer, and if he plays so-so they won't. I expect Frerotte will keep the starters job unless he screws it right up and that will end the speculation.

TASPM 09-03-2005 01:18 PM

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CB Champ Baily - Traded off to broncos for Portis

Who did we pick up?

CB Shawn Springs, personally, i think Shawn springs is a better CB after seeing him play for the skins, people are now said Baily WHO? Besides, shawn is a better tackler, has more speeds, and can intercept passes like no other CB.

CB Fred Smoot - Free Agent Pick up by vikings

Who did we pick up?

Drafted CB Carlos Rogers <---- Speed Demon, and we already had a GOOD CB in Walt Harris.

LB Antonio Peirce - Free Agent Pick up by New York Giants.

Who did we pick up?

Well we have lavar arrington coming back, lamar marshall has done a fantastic job in the preseason, i think he will fit right in, we have a great LB crew, Lavar, Marcus, Lamar....Thats pretty close to wut we used to have, if not, better crew then we used to have... Lavar, Armstead, Trotter

JWsleep 09-03-2005 06:29 PM

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Springs, Taylor, Arrington, Moss, Portis = STAMP!!! Not that there's anything wrong with TASPM. ;)

Welcome to the board.

12thMan 09-03-2005 11:31 PM

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[QUOTE=JWsleep]Springs, Taylor, Arrington, Moss, Portis = STAMP!!! Not that there's anything wrong with TASPM. ;)

Welcome to the board.[/QUOTE]

Good post!

exit0 09-05-2005 07:03 PM

Re: Ex-Skins this Preseason
 
[QUOTE=12thMan]With the departure of Smoot, Pierce, and Baily the year before, how do we feel about the corner situation now that preseason is finally over. And has Marshall been an adequate replacement for Pierce?

By the way, how have those guys played with their respective new teams this pre-season? Other than Pierce, I haven't heard much.[/QUOTE]

As much as I liked Smoot when he was here... My feeling is that Rogers will soon make all of forget about Smoot.

As for Marshall vs. Pierce... it's way too early to tell. I need to see Marshall start 4-5 games before I have a real opinion on him. It will be interesting to see if Pierce was the real deal or had a career-year last year. Personally, I think he will have a fine year with the Giants.


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