Jason Campbell
 

I haven't had a chance to watch Campbell play too much this preseason, but did watch him last week and last night. It looks like he has some problems right now with the short throws and seems more comfortable with the deep routes. Nice td pass, bad interceptions. Can we take anything from watching him so far this preseason? Its way too early to tell, but what do you guys think about his chances are of being a starting QB yrs down the road?

Re: Jason Campbell
 

This is what we can take from his preseason.

He's a rookie.

So much for those that wanted him to start. He's clearly not ready to play this year in my opinion.

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[QUOTE=redsk1] Its way too early to tell. [/QUOTE]


That says it all! He's a rookie! Has a cannon, but hasn't learned to look off the CB, or read a D.

Re: Jason Campbell
 

Positives: Has a lot of poise in the pocket and shows some really good touch on his passes.

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He's got all the tools you look for, big arm, nice size, and he seems very calm and cool in the pocket. Like any young QB, he's just going to need time.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]He's got all the tools you look for, big arm, nice size, and he seems very calm and cool in the pocket. Like any young QB, he's just going to need time.[/QUOTE]

Time? What time? According to all the experts who cover football, he's part of one of the biggest QB contreversies in the history of the NFL...


In all seriousness though, he showed some good things from what I got to watch from him; however like Matty said, he's clearly not ready to play yet. I'd say looking at him at this time next year will be a much better indication.

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711]Time? What time? According to all the experts who cover football, he's part of one of the biggest QB contreversies in the history of the NFL...


In all seriousness though, he showed some good things from what I got to watch from him; however like Matty said, he's clearly not ready to play yet. I'd say looking at him at this time next year will be a much better indication.[/QUOTE]

LOL according to some mediots he's going to be starting by midseason.

:frusty:

Re: Jason Campbell
 

[QUOTE=Gmanc711]Time? What time? According to all the experts who cover football, he's part of one of the biggest QB contreversies in the history of the NFL...


In all seriousness though, he showed some good things from what I got to watch from him; however like Matty said, he's clearly not ready to play yet. I'd say looking at him at this time next year will be a much better indication.[/QUOTE]

How many A-HOLES said Campbell would be starting by week 8? How many of those same A-HOLES completely wrote off Mark Brunell? Not saying I didn't write off Brunell, but I don't get paid to do this stuff!!!

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I'm one of those A-holes that said he could be playing by week #8 this year.

Ram and Bru have played better than last year but that ain't saying much.

Jason is the future of this team and who will be the QB when we next play in the Super Bowl.

ps. I'm a Redskins fan with an opinion and not an A-hole actually so please don't refer to me like that again kind sir. Thanks

peace
mike

Re: Jason Campbell
 

Agree with all the sentiments on the board: he has all the tools, he just needs to learn how to read defenses and play smart football.

For instance, I agree with the Redskins.com team that he didn't know how to manage the team towards the end of the game. Actually, Dyson was more of a quarterback out there at the end of the game than Campbell. Then again, Dyson is a veteran and Campbell is a rookie.

He will need a minimum of 2 years before he is ready to play, which works out perfectly actually because Ramsey has one more year on his contract.

Re: Jason Campbell
 

If he's playing by midseason it will be either because we are 0-8 or Brunell and Ramsey are injured.

Other than those two scenarios, I don't see it happening.

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Jason Campbell will be ready by season three. He's nowhere ready now.

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think it'd be good to send him to Europe?

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i agree... brunell has shown enough that i doubt campbell plays unless we're really tanked or really injured... he needs more practice reading defenses and do be a bit more aware of pressure so he can avoid it better.

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[QUOTE=illdefined]think it'd be good to send him to Europe?[/QUOTE]

I actually thought about that too... he'd probably be top tier over there, but i think it'd be better practice than mental reps and a good way to get him ready quickly. Normally people don't send 1st rounders to europe though.

Re: Jason Campbell
 

Here's my personal assessment of negatives and positives from Campbell against the Ravens (I didn't see the six minutes or so of the 4th quarter):

Positives: Nice touch and good arm strength on the touchdown pass. Very accurate on medium routes. Has the strength and mobility to get away from a pass rush and run for yards.

Negatives: He spent too much time watching his primary targets and waiting for plays to develop. Must show better overall awareness and ability to read defenses. Needs to be more decisive as a passer. Must continue to work out the rookie jitters.

Overall opinion: Campbell has excellent potential but he will need reps and experience before he can expect to be ready. I expect he could be ready sometime the middle of next season.

Re: Jason Campbell
 

Very good assessment, and I totally agree. However, last night the line didn't afford him much by way of protection and the pressure was getting to him early, forcing him to make and execute decisions before he was ready. With more reps he will improve, but i don't feel he's ready to play full time at this level just yet.

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I'm not convinced that Jason Campbell needs at least three years. I am certain that Ramsey will not be in Washington next year, which leaves the spot open for Campbell who needs to watch and learn from Musgrave, Gibbs and Brunell. Campbell's contract is filled with incentives for next year and I'm sure he will fulfill his side of the deal. Only time will tell.

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like i said before im excited to have campbell but please let ramsey have this season

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Well I was one of his biggest detractors when we picked him [primarliy because we gave up to much for a project] but I like the little I saw of him, no rookie can run Gibbs offense, it takes a seasoned veterans at least a year to master it, I really like his accuracy his ability to get out of the pocket and make a play, but most of all I like the confidence and poise he's shown, he looks like a leader, but as a lot of guy's are starting to see in this thread he's 2 years away, we gave up an awful lot for a prolonged project like Campbell.

Re: Jason Campbell
 

Here's how I see that unfolding:

Basically Campbell cracks the line-up in his third possibly 4th year:

Ramsey goes to Miami or Chicago next year - via trade or FA...who knows?
Brunell pretty much flat out wins the QB job and tutors JC thru camp and reg. season.

Year 3 Campbell and Brunell battle for QB position, Campbell wins- Brunell backs him up and retires the following season. Sounds good, ey:)

Re: Jason Campbell
 

What QB's aren't projects though?

Only thing is we can afford to let him sit this year, while most teams are pressured into playing their rookie QBs before they are really ready.

I think Campbell will be ready to compete for the job next year. He's our only sure thing at QB next year. Either Ramsey or Brunell will likely be gone.

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[QUOTE=12thMan]Here's how I see that unfolding:

Basically Campbell cracks the line-up in his third possibly 4th year:

Ramsey goes to Miami or Chicago next year - via trade or FA...who knows?
Brunell pretty much flat out wins the QB job and tutors JC thru camp and reg. season.

Year 3 Campbell and Brunell battle for QB position, Campbell wins- Brunell backs him up and retires the following season. Sounds good, ey:)[/QUOTE]

I think that could be very close to what happens.

Re: Jason Campbell
 

Campbell will be ready to start by year 2 at worst.

If he's not ready until year 3 or 4, that's way too late.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Campbell will be ready to start by year 2 at worst.

If he's not ready until year 3 or 4, that's way too late.[/QUOTE]

Hey, I hope you're right. But who goes first Ramsey or Brunell?

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[QUOTE=12thMan]Hey, I hope you're right. But who goes first Ramsey or Brunell?[/QUOTE]
Ramsey at this point is auditioning for a job somewhere else because he hasn't proven that he can lead this team into the playoffs and god forbid a Superbowl victory. In fact, I can't even bring myself to put Ramsey and Superbowl in the same sentence.

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]Ramsey at this point is auditioning for a job somewhere else because he hasn't proven that he can lead this team into the playoffs and god forbid a Superbowl victory. In fact, I can't even bring myself to put Ramsey and Superbowl in the same sentence.[/QUOTE]

well, trent dilfer won a superbowl riding on a defense, so anything's possible.

Re: Jason Campbell
 

[QUOTE=That Guy]well, trent dilfer won a superbowl riding on a defense, so anything's possible.[/QUOTE]

Furthermore, look at the Ravens....just think if they had a QB last year, most certainly they would have gone further.

Re: Jason Campbell
 

Has Ramsey really had a chance to show he can lead the team to the playoffs?

He only started 7 games last year, and in 2003 his season was cut short due to injury.

Re: Jason Campbell
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Campbell will be ready to start by year 2 at worst.

If he's not ready until year 3 or 4, that's way too late.[/QUOTE]


From the little I saw of him I would tend to agree with that, even though he made some mistakes out there, he wasen't a deer in headlights either, he was attacking the defense which is a very good sign of his inner confidence in his abilties, I think Campbell has a real belief that he will succeed, now he has to convince the rest of us.

Re: Jason Campbell
 

[QUOTE=offiss]From the little I saw of him I would tend to agree with that, even though he made some mistakes out there, he wasen't a deer in headlights either, he was attacking the defense which is a very good sign of his inner confidence in his abilties, I think Campbell has a real belief that he will succeed, now he has to convince the rest of us.[/QUOTE]

Well when I said 3 yrs, I was thinking more of how Brunell may play a role in the QB situation in the next year or two more so than a lack of readiness on Campbells' part.

Though one could conclude that if Brunell beats him out then he's not ready. But I was really implying that Brunell may have more left in the tank more than anything else.

Re: Jason Campbell
 

[QUOTE=12thMan]Furthermore, look at the Ravens....just think if they had a QB last year, most certainly they would have gone further.[/QUOTE]

yeah. they've pissed away a lot of talent-years with crappy offenses.