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Someone needs to get fired for this debacle.

Especially for the disaster of a defense.


AP will get more time but he botches things in 2026; Josh will need someone new in the front office.

DQ likely gets more time, though we finish 5-12 or worse; will Josh trust DQ to be the guy?

Joe Whitt needs go today, let DQ finish the season doing DC duties also.

KK needs to go after the season. Whether he gets a job or not; we need to fire him after the Eagles finale. We need a different OC in 26.


I’m already sold out on DQ. He likely get more time but defense retread will Eventually get fired in the future. He will not be the guy to lead us to consistent success.

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Whitt first
KK either needs to re-tool the offense and get real or yes - fine with him gone as well.

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Definitely need to see some changes with the defensive staff. I’m not bailing on KK.

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Secondary coach needs to go

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[quote=MTK;1377699]Definitely need to see some changes with the defensive staff. I’m not bailing on KK.[/quote]

Same

DQ is moving Whitt to the side lines. Is that just so he can see how bad his shit is up close?
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I am onboard with Whitt being fired. I still trust the offense on up to Peters.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1377728]I am onboard with Whitt being fired. I still trust the offense on up to Peters.

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I still trust from DQ up to Harris just about, though DQ's loyalty to Whitt is starting to confound me. I suspect a better DC, like Vance Joseph, would have gotten far more out of this D than Whitt. His inability to make adjustments between games (or actually follow through on your supposed adjustments), let alone in games is mind boggling. i.e. 'Magee will get more playing time'; OK where and when? You're leaving Wagner in on obvious passing downs and he's getting torched.

There's loyalty and then there's blind loyalty. The latter ultimately leads to you losing your job too.

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I hope these guys understand that whatever they're doing isn't good enough, that includes Peters. Whitt does nothing for me at all. Maybe he doesn't have the tools. I hate Kliff's offense. JD isn't going to have a long career running 15 times a game.

I sorta feel like they couldn't wait to get rid of some of Ron's guys but they replaced them w/ players that aren't any better, maybe worse.

I used Forbes as an example. He's playing for a better team but he couldn't be fixed here? They couldn't wait to get rid of BRob but Bill really hasn't done that much better, maybe worse. What about Curl? I'm not sure he was worth the money but he's a starter for the Rams. And Dyami wasn't a world beater, but he could get behind the defense.

Just questioning some of the moves Peters has done. Like I have said, he gets credit for last year. He pressed all the right buttons.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1377732]I still trust from DQ up to Harris just about, though DQ's loyalty to Whitt is starting to confound me. I suspect a better DC, like Vance Joseph, would have gotten far more out of this D than Whitt. His inability to make adjustments between games (or actually follow through on your supposed adjustments), let alone in games is mind boggling. i.e. 'Magee will get more playing time'; OK where and when? You're leaving Wagner in on obvious passing downs and he's getting torched.

There's loyalty and then there's blind loyalty. The latter ultimately leads to you losing your job too.[/quote]

I just don't know if it is mostly him or a total lack of talent. It seems to me that when guys can't make plays on the ball when it's in the air it's not on him. When guys can't hold the edge it's not on him.

I feel like he can blitz a bit more. If you suck on defense then you have to try some new shit. I'm going to empty my blitz package every game.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1377736]I hope these guys understand that whatever they're doing isn't good enough, that includes Peters. Whitt does nothing for me at all. Maybe he doesn't have the tools. I hate Kliff's offense. JD isn't going to have a long career running 15 times a game.

I sorta feel like they couldn't wait to get rid of some of Ron's guys but they replaced them w/ players that aren't any better, maybe worse.

I used Forbes as an example. He's playing for a better team but he couldn't be fixed here? They couldn't wait to get rid of BRob but Bill really hasn't done that much better, maybe worse. What about Curl? I'm not sure he was worth the money but he's a starter for the Rams. And Dyami wasn't a world beater, but he could get behind the defense.

Just questioning some of the moves Peters has done. Like I have said, he gets credit for last year. He pressed all the right buttons.[/quote]

I agree on some of this, though I'm not convinced on BRob (from starter to bit part player in SF) and Brown (I'd have kept Zaccheus over him, losing both was a mistake). Brown had 4 years and did little with it. He was supposed to be able to take the top off a defence but never really showed it. And for a speedy guy, he's averaging 11.5 ypc in Jax on just 19 catches, so sorry, no I wouldn't be paying him $10M to be here.

For me, I'd have kept Curl and Chinn. For what we got in exchange, the cost of keeping them would have made sense. I think that was AP trying to appear strong in negotiations, and that may well work out in the long run, but I think it weakened our secondary this year, and was avoidable.

And Forbes has seen his playing time decline as the season goes on. he was a week 1 starter but now demoted and overall only had 60% of their snaps. For a #16 pick that isn't good.

[quote=skinsfan69;1377737]I just don't know if it is mostly him or a total lack of talent. It seems to me that when guys can't make plays on the ball when it's in the air it's not on him. When guys can't hold the edge it's not on him.

I feel like he can blitz a bit more. If you suck on defense then you have to try some new shit. I'm going to empty my blitz package every game.[/quote]

Players being in the right position is a combination of coaching and scheme. I didn't watch the whole Seattle game (too depressing), but there were clear examples of outside runs making big ground because guys were in the wrong place. Yes they should know to get wider and set the edge, but if you're not in the right place to start with, that's hard to overcome. That's coaching. And if they can't correct that with coaching (by effectively the halfway point of the season!) it's not on the player. If they can't take it in, they should be replaced, and again, that's on the coach. Some players are uncoachable, but not the whole damn roster.

Definitely blitz more to overcome weak edge pressure, but blitz the right guys and put the right guys in coverage (i.e. blitz Luvu not use him as a spy), and come up with some fresh ideas with packages. Mix in DB blitzes (Lattimore might have been better rushing the passer than in coverage...), and hidden blitzes. Everything we do seems to be vanilla and telegraphed.

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I wouldn't be upset if we let Whitt go.

As for Kliff - while there are times where his play calling make us scratch our heads (i.e., running from shotgun formation in the 3rd down and 1 yd situation), we cannot ignore the impact he had on JD. We all were clamoring how Kliff was a godsend for JD last year and then flip to the opposite this year, just because the offense isn't doing well. I say we give Kliff 1-2 more years before we decide his fate.

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I can see KK being a HC again inside 2 years, especially for a team needing someone to nurture a young QB (Tenn.?). I agree keep him around, but may DQ leans on him to tweak the O with more NFL compatible options.

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a new o-line coach is needed too!

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If we go winless the rest of the way; Josh has to seriously look at whether DQ gets to come back. If he does, there definitely has to be changes in his coaching stafff.

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DQ must go. Dan has lost the team and he’s clueless on trying to get defense to play better.

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I listened to the game.
I’ll be shocked if Whitt isn’t fired tomorrow.
DQ has to be feeling the heat.

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DQ won’t and shouldn’t be fired.

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Personally I'd give DQ and KK and AP at least another year to turn things around...but unfortunately I TOTALLY Agree that Joe Whitt needs to be let go! I'm not sure if doing that now would make any sense or if it should happen at the end of the season, but IMHO Joe Whitt has to Go!

In today's game [emoji458] against the Detroit Lions, the Washington Commanders Defense was like Slut that kept their legs open and allowed the ENTIRE Detroit Lions football [emoji458] to get their 'rocks off'. I mean I've seen screen doors that offered more resistance to forced entry than the Washington Commanders Defense did today!

The Washington Commanders Defense looks completely Stupid and Inept, and whether or not that is due to the coaching of Joe Whitt or it's just the players, SOMEONE has to take the blame and since Joe Whitt is the Defensive Coordinator, he is the leader of the Defense and he'll have to shoulder the blame and get the Ax!

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Whitt should really have gone at the end of last year, but I understand AP and Quinn's probable perspective that changing at the end of a year when you reached the NFC Championship would probably look bad. But he should have gone last week so a new DC had the chance to get settled before the trip to Madrid.

Not only has the D continued to be a weakness, it's gotten worse. When I look at the players that showed promise last year, some have regressed. You can look at personnel and question some moves, and put that on AP, but for players to regress like that it's almost always on the coaching. In a league where innovation is a constant need, Whitt doesn't have a clue. He has to go.

And if DQ doesn't pull the plug after Madrid at least, he's likely gotten himself fired at the end of the year too. Loyalty is admirable, blind loyalty not so much.

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I don't want DQ fired, firing a head coach a year after going to the NFCC Game is a move the previous owner would make. But Whitt? I questioned the hire from the start, dude has never been a defensive coordinator and they were horrible last year as well.

Now Peters? I was a huge fan, helps that he is a really good guy too. But we can't just ignore his drafts, particularly 2023. Other than Jayden he did not land one impact player, and he had a ton of 2nd and 3rd round picks. In year 2 those players should be making an impact and none are doing that. I've been calling Newton a bust for a year and got great pushback. He is invisible. Sinnott finally made a play, a 2 yard wide open TD in garbage time, and he does the Trump dance in celebration. Yeah fuck you Ben Sinnott, you can't even beat out a statue for playing time.

Just so angry about all of this.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1377937]I don't want DQ fired, firing a head coach a year after going to the NFCC Game is a move the previous owner would make. But Whitt? I questioned the hire from the start, dude has never been a defensive coordinator and they were horrible last year as well.

Now Peters? I was a huge fan, helps that he is a really good guy too. But we can't just ignore his drafts, particularly 2023. Other than Jayden he did not land one impact player, and he had a ton of 2nd and 3rd round picks. In year 2 those players should be making an impact and none are doing that. [B] I've been calling Newton a bust for a year and got great pushback. [/B] He is invisible. Sinnott finally made a play, a 2 yard wide open TD in garbage time, and he does the Trump dance in celebration. Yeah fuck you Ben Sinnott, you can't even beat out a statue for playing time.

Just so angry about all of this.[/quote]

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Half-Whitt needs to go, as does Rivera Mark II.

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Daboll just got fired.


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DQ is taking over defense callings, per Finlay.

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[QUOTE=GridIron26;1377968]DQ is taking over defense callings, per Finlay.[/QUOTE]


Announced in DQ’s press conference by DQ himself.


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[quote=GridIron26;1377968]DQ is taking over defense callings, per Finlay.[/quote]

Hi! You might have seen me before in the hit TV show The Walking Dead, i will be revising my role on the sidelines at the next Commanders game

- Joe Whitt

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[quote=GridIron26;1377968]DQ is taking over defense callings, per Finlay.[/quote]

Long overdue

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[quote=MTK;1377975]Long overdue[/quote]

Agreed, but I wonder what happens if the D all of a sudden shows massive improvement. (Against Miami, it might not mean a lot.) But if all of a sudden, the D becomes stout, what the heck do you do with Whitt? To be clear, I don't see how this happens -- we're now the 30th and 29th ranked D in terms of yards and points allowed, respectively, and we've been sinking lower each week. It would not surprise me to see us lose out (as sad as that would be).

I guess my question is -- DQ takes over as DC and then the D improves. At that point, how can you keep Whitt? I mean, for what purpose?

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What's his purpose now? It's clear he's a dead man walking. Why not get him out of the building and remove the distraction he'll obviously become?

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[quote=GridIron26;1377968]DQ is taking over defense callings, per Finlay.[/quote]

Praise be. It can't be worse than what Whitt was providing.

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[quote=calia;1378014]At that point, how can you keep Whitt? I mean, for what purpose?[/quote]



You don't. You either make him a position coach or dump him all together.

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What if the defense shows no improvement, how can you keep DQ? He will shown he can’t hire a DC nor be one himself.

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DQ isn’t going to take the fall for taking over an injury riddled defense mid season. Very doubtful there’s any huge improvements coming. Everyone knows this move is more for optics than anything.

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[quote=88Commanders00;1378020]What if the defense shows no improvement, how can you keep DQ? He will shown he can’t hire a DC nor be one himself.[/quote]

Switching up scheme, which needs to be done without a doubt, is only a temporary mask of the sheer lack of speed on this team. This is also the NFL, with professional and smart coaches calling offenses on the other sideline. Like Matty said its definite optics and a change of scenery.

Wouldn't fault DQ too much for the same results.

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[quote=kct1975;1378054]Not to derail this thread but according to ALL of my Family and Friends....this $h!t Show of a season is All my fault because somehow I'm a Jinks....so in that case... [/quote]

You can't even spell jinx and it's in one of your memes! Away with you! Get thee to a nunnery!