Chaos at the Capitol: New thread edition
 

I think the events of today deserve their own thread, even though it's mostly over.

Thought this was a nice juxtaposition [URL="https://twitter.com/11thHour/status/1346958469073661953"]from Twitter[/URL].

Day 1:
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Day 1448:
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I see they didn’t really enforce the 6 pm curfew. Sets a bad precedent

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Time to remove trump , fuck the two weeks !

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[quote=punch it in;1272510][IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210107/ba7fa7d2114e336748d56c48d7c11f4d.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

😂

:laughing2

Needed that

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[quote=punch it in;1272510][IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210107/ba7fa7d2114e336748d56c48d7c11f4d.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Got to disagree, Dems take over the Senate , there is a vaccination now for Covid and trump will be gone ................all positives.


[B]P.S

and the Washington Football team won the NFC East[/B]

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I think invoking 25th could b in order

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The woman that got shot and killed works at the capital.

Hope Trump and Proud Boys are happy. A woman actually at work on a Wednesday gets killed because of a bunch of Fuckboys.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1272507]I see they didn’t really enforce the 6 pm curfew. Sets a bad precedent[/quote]

Don't know how seriously they were enforcing at 6 pm, but this video I just watched sure looks like they're enforcing it now. Shocking it only took literally all day for LE to act like these assholes deserve hands laid on them.

[quote=Chico]
I think invoking 25th could b in order
[/quote]

Could be, but I think Pence is too spineless to rock the boat right now. The odds might grow higher if Trump continues trying to incite an insurrection though.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1272521]The woman that got shot and killed works at the capital.

Hope Trump and Proud Boys are happy. A woman actually at work on a Wednesday gets killed because of a bunch of Fuckboys.[/quote]

I mean she had a Trump flag tied around her neck, not saying she was one of the LARPers dressed in full battle gear but I doubt she wasn't enjoying the scene. Still didn't deserve to be shot though.

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[quote=mooby;1272523]I mean she had a Trump flag tied around her neck, not saying she was one of the LARPers dressed in full battle gear but I doubt she wasn't enjoying the scene. Still didn't deserve to be shot though.[/quote]

I'm almost at a loss for words about everything that has happened in the past 24-48 hours. Like this is worst case scenario × 2.

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[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/krylpz/police_officers_inside_the_main_chambers_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3[/url]

Now we know what the LARPers were saying to the cops pointing guns at them from inside the House? chambers.

The cops are traitors to the Constitution. Who knew?

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[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-rejects-challenge-to-biden-arizona-win/ar-BB1cxpYP?li=BBnb7Kz[/url]

Interesting.

4 people died, the woman was shot by Capitol police, the 3 others had "medical emergencies."

2 pipe bombs recovered, one at the DNC, one at the RNC. Police also found a cooler in a vehicle on Capitol grounds that had a long gun and a molotov in it.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1272521]The woman that got shot and killed works at the capital.

Hope Trump and Proud Boys are happy. A woman actually at work on a Wednesday gets killed because of a bunch of Fuckboys.[/quote]

Honest question, are you sure? Reports I heard she was one of the rioters ,

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[quote=mooby;1272523]I mean she had a Trump flag tied around her neck, not saying she was one of the LARPers dressed in full battle gear but I doubt she wasn't enjoying the scene. Still didn't deserve to be shot though.[/quote]

Amen , I do want whom ever they can get prosecuted to the max .

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[quote=Giantone;1272532]Honest question, are you sure? Reports I heard she was one of the rioters ,[/quote]

I took news from someone I trust. And she is still trustworthy, I think she just shared what she heard immediately. Not her fault. My fault for not waiting more to talk about it and research it, or just wait.

Sorry to everyone. Looks like she didn't work there.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1272534]I took news from someone I trust. And she is still trustworthy, I think she just shared what she heard immediately. Not her fault. My fault for not waiting more to talk about it and research it, or just wait.

Sorry to everyone. Looks like she didn't work there.[/quote]

I wasn't attacking, I just didn't know.

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[quote=Giantone;1272535]I wasn't attacking, I just didn't know.[/quote]

I know you weren't. I was genuinely answering your question and apologizing for sharing something that ended up being false. Shitty conversation to have because someone did die. Just not how I originally understood it.

G1, we probably disagree on 90% of things. But this is not one of them. That young woman died for no reason. And it's fucked up.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1272521]The woman that got shot and killed works at the capital.

Hope Trump and Proud Boys are happy. A woman actually at work on a Wednesday gets killed because of a bunch of Fuckboys.[/quote]

Yeah this is not true

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1272536]I know you weren't. I was genuinely answering your question and apologizing for sharing something that ended up being false. Shitty conversation to have because someone did die. Just not how I originally understood it.

G1, we probably disagree on 90% of things. But this is not one of them. That young woman died for no reason. And it's fucked up.[/quote]

agreed

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[url]https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/06/dc-mayor-told-federal-law-enforcement-to-stand-down-day-before-violent-us-capitol-riot/#.X_ZrGDQBNCw.twitter[/url]

Washington, D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser told federal law enforcement to stand down just one day before a mob of Trump supporters breached the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, smashing windows, entering the chambers, and forcing lawmakers and congressional staff inside into lockdown.

“To be clear, the District of Columbia is not requesting other federal law enforcement personnel and discourages any additional deployment without immediate notification to, and consultation with, MPD if such plans are underway,” Bowser wrote in a letter to acting U.S. Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen, acting Secretary of Defense Chris Miller, and Secretary of the Army Ryan D. McCarthy.“ - from the letter


Spineless.

Tom Cotton op Ed in the nyt was 1000% right this pass summer...when folks attach federal building like we see here as well over the summer, bring out the troops period. You can’t have it both ways


Lol...the complete morons saying this somehow like Pearl Harbor or 911...get the fuck out. you give these idiots way too much credit.

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[quote=Chico23231;1272542][url]https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/06/dc-mayor-told-federal-law-enforcement-to-stand-down-day-before-violent-us-capitol-riot/#.X_ZrGDQBNCw.twitter[/url]

Washington, D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser told federal law enforcement to stand down just one day before a mob of Trump supporters breached the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, smashing windows, entering the chambers, and forcing lawmakers and congressional staff inside into lockdown.

“To be clear, the District of Columbia is not requesting other federal law enforcement personnel and discourages any additional deployment without immediate notification to, and consultation with, MPD if such plans are underway,” Bowser wrote in a letter to acting U.S. Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen, acting Secretary of Defense Chris Miller, and Secretary of the Army Ryan D. McCarthy.“ - from the letter


Spineless.

Tom Cotton op Ed in the nyt was 1000% right this pass summer...when folks attach federal building like we see here as well over the summer, bring out the troops period. You can’t have it both ways


Lol...the complete morons saying this somehow like Pearl Harbor or 911...get the fuck out. you give these idiots way too much credit.[/quote]
chico , you seriously haven't a clue.

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4 people dead, and over what? Lies.

Trump and all of the republicans that stood by and wouldn't acknowledge the election results, or kept perpetuating this lie of a stolen election should be held accountable.

Pathetic displays from the likes of Lindsay Graham last night too, sorry but you were part of the problem dude. You blow the dog whistle long enough and guess what, the dog is going to show up looking to bite someone.

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[quote=mooby;1272522]Don't know how seriously they were enforcing at 6 pm, but this video I just watched sure looks like they're enforcing it now. Shocking it only took literally all day for LE to act like these assholes deserve hands laid on them.



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I was watching it live it was well past 6 pm between 6:15 and 6:30. The police were standing in a line and people we coming up and recording the police and walking around, one guy was drinking a beer. Ironically the police did back up the media. I quit watching soon after that so not sure if they started enforcing it later. It kind of looked like a party on the mall with a police barricade.

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[URL="https://kfor.com/news/washington-dc-bureau/horned-shirtless-man-at-the-capitol-demonstration-identified/"]Horned, shirtless man at the Capitol demonstration identified[/URL]

What a surprise he's a QAnon wacko

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[quote=Chico23231;1272542][url]https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/06/dc-mayor-told-federal-law-enforcement-to-stand-down-day-before-violent-us-capitol-riot/#.X_ZrGDQBNCw.twitter[/url]

Washington, D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser told federal law enforcement to stand down just one day before a mob of Trump supporters breached the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, smashing windows, entering the chambers, and forcing lawmakers and congressional staff inside into lockdown.

“To be clear, the District of Columbia is not requesting other federal law enforcement personnel and discourages any additional deployment without immediate notification to, and consultation with, MPD if such plans are underway,” Bowser wrote in a letter to acting U.S. Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen, acting Secretary of Defense Chris Miller, and Secretary of the Army Ryan D. McCarthy.“ - from the letter


Spineless.

Tom Cotton op Ed in the nyt was 1000% right this pass summer...when folks attach federal building like we see here as well over the summer, bring out the troops period. You can’t have it both ways


Lol...the complete morons saying this somehow like Pearl Harbor or 911...get the fuck out. you give these idiots way too much credit.[/quote]

I was listening to George Stephanopoulos interview her right before 6 pm and felt the same way. Spineless

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[quote=MTK;1272549][URL="https://kfor.com/news/washington-dc-bureau/horned-shirtless-man-at-the-capitol-demonstration-identified/"]Horned, shirtless man at the Capitol demonstration identified[/URL]

What a surprise he's a QAnon wacko[/quote]

I bet the World of Warcraft servers were wide open yesterday with a lack of users.

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[quote=MTK;1272549][URL="https://kfor.com/news/washington-dc-bureau/horned-shirtless-man-at-the-capitol-demonstration-identified/"]Horned, shirtless man at the Capitol demonstration identified[/URL]

What a surprise he's a QAnon wacko[/quote]

Perhaps this is a 4 year long street performance for the aspiring entertainer? At the very least I can't imagine this was a good resume builder,

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[quote=MTK;1272549][URL="https://kfor.com/news/washington-dc-bureau/horned-shirtless-man-at-the-capitol-demonstration-identified/"]Horned, shirtless man at the Capitol demonstration identified[/URL]

What a surprise he's a QAnon wacko[/quote]

If anyone ever needed a beating...


Does anyone know what the 3 others died from? Seems strange

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I wonder if this tension between liberal nanny state and laissez faire capitalism is how the country felt leading up to the civil war. The level of difference between the two sides now, and the growing width of the violent fringe on both sides of our society seem destined to implode. Ironically the two sides are amazingly similar to the 1860s. Not specifically speaking about racism, but the rural or land owning class versus the industrial/urban class.

Not shockingly I think opposite of G1 in that I believe a mixed congress with biden as president could have done so much good toward bridging the divide, but a stacked liberal federal government will exacerbate the differences as the extreme left push an out of balance agenda through.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1272552]Perhaps this is a 4 year long street performance for the aspiring entertainer? At the very least I can't imagine this was a good resume builder,[/quote]

the naked cowboy was there

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Were these guys arrested?

[URL="https://www.bbc.com/news/55572805"]Capitol riots: Who broke into the building?[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1272577]Were these guys arrested?

[URL="https://www.bbc.com/news/55572805"]Capitol riots: Who broke into the building?[/URL][/quote]

I just don't understand how thy got so far into the building, someone or someone's had to have helped them gain that much access.

Other then that one broke window i don't see a bunch of force entry

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[quote=mredskins;1272579]I just don't understand how thy got so far into the building, someone or someone's had to have helped them gain that much access.

Other then that one broke window i don't see a bunch of force entry[/quote]

I don't get how security was so lax to begin with. All of these morons obviously had Jan 6th circled on their calendars, you can't tell me we didn't have intelligence from online chatter to indicate that something big was in the works from these wacko groups like Q and the Proud Boys. Complete fail on so many levels.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1272568]I wonder if this tension between liberal nanny state and laissez faire capitalism is how the country felt leading up to the civil war. The level of difference between the two sides now, and the growing width of the violent fringe on both sides of our society seem destined to implode. Ironically the two sides are amazingly similar to the 1860s. Not specifically speaking about racism, but the rural or land owning class versus the industrial/urban class.

Not shockingly I think opposite of G1 in that I believe a mixed congress with biden as president could have done so much good toward bridging the divide, but a stacked liberal federal government will exacerbate the differences as the extreme left push an out of balance agenda through.

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Funny you didn't feel that way with republicans in charge?

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[quote=MTK;1272580]I don't get how security was so lax to begin with. All of these morons obviously had Jan 6th circled on their calendars, you can't tell me we didn't have intelligence from online chatter to indicate that something big was in the works from these wacko groups like Q and the Proud Boys. Complete fail on so many levels.[/quote]

The security was around where the speeches were , that's where the trouble was expected . No one thought trump would send them to the Capital to attack it. The communication between all the groups was terrible.

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[url]https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1346911809274478594?s=20[/url]

^^ video of the moment protestors entered the capitol through a side door. really good interesting video, about 1.5 mins, you can feel the tension and the moment its breached

I highly encourage everyone to watch it

Just one officer running down the stairs .. how he restrained himself to not hit that dude with his baton I have no idea

[IMG]https://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/shared/npr/styles/x_large/nprshared/202101/954048091.jpg[/IMG]

^^ this guy basically walked back that officer

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1272582]Funny you didn't feel that way with republicans in charge?[/QUOTE]Yes i did. My best government is split house and senate with a republican president

I can actually rank all of them because of the different powers each house has

Pres rep sen rep. house dem is my favorite and if the house had focused on passing legislation not blocking DT so many good bills could have passed

Next is pres rep house rep sen dem. This is a very good setup for fiscal issues not as good for social liberty

Next is pres dem house rep senate dem

Then pres dem house dem senate rep

Next is any combination where president is one party and house/senate are the other party

Finally the worst combination is when one party controls all 3 sections because you disenfranchise half the population and it skews the policies too far one way.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1272588]

[B]Pres rep sen rep. house dem is my favorite [/B]and if the house had focused on passing legislation not blocking DT so many good bills could have passed

Next is pres rep house rep sen dem. This is a very good setup for fiscal issues not as good for social liberty


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Not for me. Thats what we had the past 4 years and McConnell and republicans abused it by adopting the "because we can" approach. Republicans rammed their agenda through congress and didnt compromise or slow down.

If only McConnell had allowed the vetting of Garland to proceed OR not ram barrett through last minute. His hypocrisy and seated republicans cheering it on really pissed me off.

But he did both. he also changed the rules so judicial appointments take 2 hours now.

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1272591]Not for me. Thats what we had the past 4 years and McConnell and republicans abused it by adopting the "because we can" approach. Republicans rammed their agenda through congress and didnt compromise or slow down.



If only McConnell had allowed the vetting of Garland to proceed OR not ram barrett through last minute. His hypocrisy and seated republicans cheering it on really pissed me off.



But he did both. he also changed the rules so judicial appointments take 2 hours now.[/QUOTE]Neither side compromised. Obviously in any of those options the underlying requirement is that the idiots cooperate with the other idiots

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