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Who out there thinks that Portis made it a point to end this crappy jersey number thing quickly and quielty because of the Taylor incident? Maybe St. Joe and the Skins have the full and undivided attention of the players right now? They pretty much cut Taylor off, and I'm sure this whole thing scared alot of players straight, i.e. Portis, MOss, and any other knuckleheads.

This also goes to show that maybe players should start listening to Joe a little bit more. If Taylor did he would be up here instead of down there. I don't know, but I see light at the end of this disaster. Maybe this will make some players buckle down and get straight.

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I don't think the Portis thing ended that quietly really, I mean they were only 1 day away from trial which means he spent thousands of dollars obtaining legal counsel only to pretty much give Ohalete (I never spell it right) exactly what he wanted. I think Portis was a real jerk over this situation.

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Maybe he did. I mean, why shouldnt he have? He was clearly in the wrong in this situation and the guy has money coming out of his ears. I think you might be right, that they wanted not to have another distraction so they settled it quietly.

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If he really wanted it settled quietly he would have paid in full what he was supposed to have paid.

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[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]I don't think the Portis thing ended that quietly really, I mean they were only 1 day away from trial which means he spent thousands of dollars obtaining legal counsel only to pretty much give Ohalete (I never spell it right) exactly what he wanted. I think Portis was a real jerk over this situation.[/QUOTE]

I think portis is a weird and eccentric (spelling) dude, I don't doubt he would have gone to court for the pub alone? Its just timing that they were one day away. I hope Gibbs called him and said, "man, settle this, NOW!"

Maybe this will be a Lawyer Milloy type of wake up call? I know, I know, its totally different, but maybe a message has been sent, regardless if gibbs/skins sent it or not.

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Perhaps with the Taylor situation going on Portis realized the last thing the Redskins need right now is more bad publicity. Either that or he finally realized he was probably going to lose the case.

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i totally think that all of you guys are wrong about portis. he may have money coming out the a** but it is his money and he is earning it. the guy was cut and who was never going to be a star and portis is portis the guy who can just about break one for a touchdown everytime he touches the ball. he is the smoothest runner since sweetness (walter payton for those who don't know). when a guy gets cut let that be and just go about getting a new job with someone else. cp was going to get the number anyway.

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But does that mean he shouldn't have to honor an agreement?

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Bottom line, C. Portis agreed to buy the number before Iffy was dropped. He should pay. End of discussion! He should have been a man of his word to begin with!

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A contract is a contract, and Portis was clearly wrong, even his teammates at the time (Freddie Smoot, who helped negotiate the deal) said so. It really has nothing to do with the football abilities of either player.

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Funny aside: Steve Saban of Fox Sports Radio reminded me (and any other listeners - I'm not special) on the air this morning that Portis received multiple fines for non-conforming uniform violations - his colored socks - this past year. Clearly the money wasn't his issue - he spent more than $18,000 (what he settled for) on socks last year.

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The money is not the issue its the contract they agreed to that matters. Portis came to and agreement to buy Olet's number and he should honor that agreement. The number came available for free after the deal was made so thats a Portis problem not Olet. I can understand why Portis barked at the payment but he still should have just paid. The only reason Portis has decided to pay is because he knew he was wrong and he thought the matter would go away after time which it did not.

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I'm guessing it was something personal between CP and Iffy. Otherwise it's hard to understand why CP wouldn't cough up the dough.

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still, it turns out they did have a signed contract with the equipment manager signing as a witness, and fred smoot helped broker the deal too. This should have been dealt with about a year ago.

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[QUOTE=Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor]i totally think that all of you guys are wrong about portis. he may have money coming out the a** but it is his money and he is earning it. the guy was cut and who was never going to be a star and portis is portis the guy who can just about break one for a touchdown everytime he touches the ball. he is the smoothest runner since sweetness (walter payton for those who don't know). when a guy gets cut let that be and just go about getting a new job with someone else. cp was going to get the number anyway.[/QUOTE]

Whoa, I like Portis alot. . .but man, ever see Eric Dickerson?

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Ahhh I just love having all these guys from the "U"...they are so fun to cheer for.

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[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]I don't think the Portis thing ended that quietly really, I mean they were only 1 day away from trial which means he spent thousands of dollars obtaining legal counsel only to pretty much give Ohalete (I never spell it right) exactly what he wanted. I think Portis was a real jerk over this situation.[/QUOTE]

I dont like how he handled it. But I wouldnt be surprised if his legal fees were exactly $2000. That would bump the cost of the number back up to what he initially agreed. Just a thought. Clinton gets a pass with me however. I like the guy. Faulty as it may be, he acts exactly how I would in his situation with his cash.

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I like especially how Clinton is acting this offseason. He's being a real class act.

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i heard that the reason portis settled it is because if portis had gone through with the trial it would've cost him like 38k even if he had won, which is a lot more than 20k. other than that portis has been a good leader this offseason, he's been here from the start of everything this offseason, he's being more vocal in the locker room, and he's stepping up his leadership role.

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I hope he thought about how nice it would be to not have a "Portis goes to court" headline. He owed Iffy the money. He could have waited him out, but he didn't, he instead decided he didn't want to wait and bought him out. The fact that Iffy got cut doesn't matter.

Also, I would like to submit that this emotion name be changed from SmashFreakB to "SeanTaylorsRevenge"
:smashfrea

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It's kind of funny though...if Portis had just accepted another number and been paitent, he could have eventually gotten the number for free.

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i don't think trojans and canes like each other very much... players from both alma maters probably believe their schools are the best in cfb, and it probably carries over to the nfl.

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I don't like the actions that the skins are taking with this Taylor situation. I feel they should be more supportive and help this player in his time of need, to show him where his loyalties should lie. I would have like to seen the skins to respond to this situation like the Ravens did with Jamal Lewis, and Ray Lewis. They showed support and didn' t come off judgementive or like they were turning their back on them. This action payed off in major dividends in their reputation and class of the organization.

Forgiveness is devine and Gibss should follow suit. If I was Gibbs I would go out there to miami and show support, talk to him let him know that the team will help as much as possible. That action would have a major positive effect on Taylor. The way they are acting now, shows to me there may be truth in what Arrington said earlier when he blew up

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]I don't like the actions that the skins are taking with this Taylor situation. I feel they should be more supportive and help this player in his time of need, to show him where his loyalties should lie. I would have like to seen the skins to respond to this situation like the Ravens did with Jamal Lewis, and Ray Lewis. They showed support and didn' t come off judgementive or like they were turning their back on them. This action payed off in major dividends in their reputation and class of the organization.

Forgiveness is devine and Gibss should follow suit. If I was Gibbs I would go out there to miami and show support, talk to him let him know that the team will help as much as possible. That action would have a major positive effect on Taylor. The way they are acting now, shows to me there may be truth in what Arrington said earlier when he blew up[/QUOTE]

What are they doing that you don't agree with??

They've excused him from the rest of the offseason activities so he can get his act together.

Taylor himself hasn't shown much support to the organization, so under the circumstances I think the team has acted accordingly.

Should Gibbs have flown down and bailed him out? The guy won't even return the coach's phone calls.

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I can't think of any better support for a player than to give him permission from offseason activities.

Like Matty said, what type of behavior has Taylor exhibited that would call for him to demand "support" from his team? I'm sorry, but if my own brother shot at somebody for stealing his car, I'd tell him that he deserves what's coming to him.

Why throw this at Joe Gibbs door step? Was he not right in saying that if Taylor had shown up at the voluntary work-outs and mini-camps that he probably would have avoided this trouble?

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[quote]I don't like the actions that the skins are taking with this Taylor situation. I feel they should be more supportive and help this player in his time of need, to show him where his loyalties should lie.[/quote]

Huh?!?

Maybe if Taylor returned a few of the coach's friggin' calls Gibb's would have an opportunity to be supportive. You don't think that Gibb's should have expressed dissapointment over the fact that Sean never showed up to the OTA's and wouldn't return his calls? And since this latest fiasco, it seems to me that the organization has bent over backward to show support for Sean, to the point that I fear they may be coddling him too much.

--Phin

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The skins didn't do much of anything... excuse his absence, does that even matter in his current situation? if he went to practice, he would be acused of fleeing the state of Florida and be promply arrested. Do we even know if Gibbs or anyone else in the front office contacted him since the Arrest? I'm not calling for them to save him, but I do feel that the team should state that they are publicly their for support.

They aren't gonna release him or trade him, & they have a 7 year investment in the guy. Gibbs and the front office can jump on a flight with the quickness to try to get Courtney Brown unsuccessfully, but noone is expendible to take one day to support the starting free safety. Snyder could pay anyone, hell I'll fly over to Miami, to show that the skins have his back.

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It would be nice to see Gibbs fly down to Florida to try to "reach" Sean Taylor (knock the snot out of him). Perhaps, by being the bigger man and reaching out to Sean during his moment of weakness, Gibbs could develop a good rapport with Sean that could be useful if Sean ever gets himself out of this mess.

However, Gibbs has more important things to do and I doubt that the coach could actually "reach" Taylor.

PS - I don't think the FO has been screaming from the rooftops its support of ST, but I don't think they've abandoned him or done anything wrong.

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Well,

It has just been reported on the NFL network that it was determined that Sean Taylor [B]DID NOT[/B] fire a gun at anyone. They said the Washington Post is reporting that Taylor may have been a victim in this and was fired upon - however that part of the investigation is unconfirmed.

Sounds much better for Sean! Now he needs to get his butt into training camp! :mad:

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I just really hope this is a huge wakeup call for this kid.

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If he picks lawyers at all like he picks agents, then he is probably (expletive)!