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Woof...

0-5 vs 1-4.. Anyone actually going to sit through the whole thing? Luckily for me I won't be home until about Halftime.

Kyle Allen will start per Ron.

I'm going Giants 26 - No named bums 20

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I thought that I read yesterday that Smith was named the starter

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[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30100296/washington-qb-kyle-allen-remain-starter-healthy[/url]

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JP Finlay also just tweeted that Allen is the starter. Smith is the backup.

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I’ll watch if Kyle starts, I’m not watching anytime Alex Smith takes the field. It’s theatrical bullshit and has nothing to do with winning football games if he plays. It’s more Dan Snyder drama, folks need to call it out. Alex needs to be cut this offseason immediately

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1262390]Woof...

0-5 vs 1-4.. [B]Anyone actually going to sit through the whole thing?[/B] Luckily for me I won't be home until about Halftime.

Kyle Allen will start per Ron.

I'm going Giants 26 - No named bums 20[/quote]

Hell yeah I'm gonna sit through the whole thing. We're not even guaranteed 16 games this year with all the 'rona bs going around, you best believe I'm gonna watch every game (at least until they get out of hand). Last week was a pure dumpster fire and I still watched all of it.

Also yeah this could definitely be another L because the Giants definitely improved on offense against the Cowboys.

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[quote=Chico23231;1262405]I’ll watch if Kyle starts, I’m not watching anytime Alex Smith takes the field. [B]It’s theatrical bullshit and has nothing to do with winning football games if he plays.[/B] It’s more Dan Snyder drama, folks need to call it out. Alex needs to be cut this offseason immediately[/quote]

Why do you even need to say this? Allen has been declared the starter.

Now I'm no expert but usually in such situations that means the backup only sees the field if the starter gets injured.

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I'm still in shock from just how bad Sunday's game was. Any optimism I had before the Rams game is pretty much gone, as is a lot of my trust in Ron. That being said, we're going to see just what they have in the tank...the Giants are not a good team on either side of the ball, like us. So do they give us any optimism going forward? Will the defense show up or will Daniel Jones be Danny Dimes? Will the offense score any points? Will they actually throw the ball down the field more than once a game? Ron supposedly made the QB change to try and win games...so this is the stretch where they supposedly could win some...let's see what they got.

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[quote=mooby;1262408]Why do you even need to say this? Allen has been declared the starter.

Now I'm no expert but usually in such situations that means the backup only sees the field if the starter gets injured.[/quote]

Smith showed he shouldn’t be on the field or on the team.

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If it's a nice day I may go golfing. I just can't watch the Redskins or WTF or whatever the hell you call them. They're not worth my time anymore. Ron sucks, the offense is unwatchable, the defense can't tackle, can't rush and can't cover. The best player is the punter. This team is almost dead to me. I miss that run the Nats were on last year.

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[quote=mooby;1262406]Hell yeah I'm gonna sit through the whole thing. We're not even guaranteed 16 games this year with all the 'rona bs going around, you best believe I'm gonna watch every game (at least until they get out of hand). Last week was a pure dumpster fire and I still watched all of it.

Also yeah this could definitely be another L because the Giants definitely improved on offense against the Cowboys.[/quote]

Exactly. I know we suck but we only get maybe 16 of these things. Hell yeah Im going to watch it. And rewind it and slow mo plays .. its going to take me 6 hours to watch this bitch.

(but we are so deprived of redskins induced dopamine. watching the caps or terps basketball, it is so much funner and more meaningful watching your home town team kicking ass. the DMV was so much happier during the Nats champ run, people wearing their gear, mailman talking with strangers about the game etc ... Skins have let down our whole region for way too long)

Chase Young - going up against fellow top pick LT Andrew Thomas. I think Chase will feast and get 2 sacks.

Fuller - nice to see him some more

Martin - can he anchor better, can he not get pushed back? the clock is ticking on this young man. How will he respond.

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[quote=Chico23231;1262410]Smith showed he shouldn’t be on the field or on the team.[/quote]

2 years, 17 surgeries, almost had his leg amputated, comes back for the first time and plays the second half in shitty conditions with a terrible supporting cast and an offensive line that is truly offensive. But yeah I agree, cut him no slack.

:rolleyes:

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I'm watching so I can see how bad this team really is.

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Smith is a great comeback story no doubt but it's clear he should have been pulled from that game.

Sloppy field, Allen was cleared, Rams pass rush was ferocious, I really don't get what Ron was thinking there at all.

I don't even think he should be active, bring up Montez from the PS and make him the backup.

I also think it's ridiculous Dwayne wasn't made the backup. He would have given us a fighting chance.

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[quote=MTK;1262421]Smith is a great comeback story no doubt but it's clear he should have been pulled from that game.

Sloppy field, Allen was cleared, Rams pass rush was ferocious, I really don't get what Ron was thinking there at all.

I don't even think he should be active, bring up Montez from the PS and make him the backup.

I also think it's ridiculous Dwayne wasn't made the backup. He would have given us a fighting chance.[/quote]

This. This is what has me really questioning what the hell Ron is doing.

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[quote=MTK;1262421]Smith is a great comeback story no doubt but it's clear he should have been pulled from that game.

Sloppy field, Allen was cleared, Rams pass rush was ferocious, I really don't get what Ron was thinking there at all.

I don't even think he should be active, bring up Montez from the PS and make him the backup.

I [B]also think it's ridiculous Dwayne wasn't made the backup. He would have given us a fighting chance[/B].[/quote]

Exactly. So again we are blowing the QB position on how to handle “the move on” situation. Instead of trying to move him for maximum value, we have leaked stories to destroy his character and we will get nothing.

Bruce is gone, yet we are doing the samething organization-wise.

So fucking stupid

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Giants 27-WFT 17 oh I'm gonna be watching every snap oh and that Jones kid in New York is starting to get confidence, them dropping 34 on the Boyz was no accident I think the kid in the long run will be better than Eli while we on the other hand have nothing at QB....we could activate Joe T with Sonny at backup and be better off.. this season is a wash!!

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I'm going WFT 20 Giants 17 because why the F not? Crazier things happen every week.

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[quote=MTK;1262403]JP Finlay also just tweeted that Allen is the starter. Smith is the backup.[/quote]

The Smith story was nice but he's just not good enough anymore. I know it wont happen but I wish there was some way they could figure out how to make DH the backup. The only way they will be able to get anything for him is if they boost his trade value and sitting him out the rest of the year doesn't do that.

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[quote=Chico23231;1262425]Exactly. So again we are blowing the QB position on how to handle “the move on” situation. Instead of trying to move him for maximum value, we have leaked stories to destroy his character and we will get nothing.

Bruce is gone, yet we are doing the samething organization-wise.

So fucking stupid[/quote]

As my post above says I also think DH should be the backup. The only reason I can think that he wont be is because RR sees him as a potential locker room cancer that if allowed to return to the locker room will make a bad situation even worse.

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Smith was put in a terrible spot. IDK if he can play anymore or not but can't judge him off of that situation. No one would have played well under those circumstances. But he hasn't played in two years and had flesh torn off his leg - there is no way he has the mobility he once had.

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Dwayne Haskins is not here at practice today and it’s believed to not be COVID related.

Lake Lewis

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1262439]Dwayne Haskins is not here at practice today and it’s believed to not be COVID related.

Lake Lewis[/quote]

So lame on his part, but I guess it sums up why he's not the starter and wasn't made the backup. His handling of all this says a lot.

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[quote=MTK;1262440]So lame on his part, but I guess it sums up why he's not the starter and wasn't made the backup. His handling of all this says a lot.[/quote]

Yeah he fell off fast

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[quote=MTK;1262440]So lame on his part, but I guess it sums up why he's not the starter and wasn't made the backup. His handling of all this says a lot.[/quote]

Sometimes men need to stay home and cry.

A relationship is a two way street, maybe Haskins would just be Allen's backup if he took the benching in stride and resolved to work on his craft to earn it back.

Instead here we are already determining it was the Redskins coaching staff who leaked stories about his shitty work ethic and stat-bragging just so they could justify his benching (and nuke his trade value in the process).

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1262439]Dwayne Haskins is not here at practice today and it’s believed to not be COVID related.

Lake Lewis[/quote]Dang. Guess he really doesn't care anymore. Sure doesn't help his trade value. Hopefully some team will covet him.

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Darren M. Haynes
@DarrenMHaynes
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I can confirm QB Dwayne Haskins is still sick. He went to the #WashingtonFootball
practice facility and was sent back home. He’s still throwing up and is still on medication. This is not COVID-19 related. @wusa9
@WUSA9sports

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Perhaps he just so happens to be truly sick ...

timing is suspect

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If the story is true about him bragging about stats then that says everything you need to know about Haskins. He threw a bunch of screens the entire game and he's bragging about that? Then he unfollows the team and Allen? I wonder how these coaches can deal with some of these immature bitches. I couldn't. They would drive me nuts with their bullshit. Haskins = Steamin' Willie Beamen. And I believe Meyer mentioned Haskins was immature before the draft and the Redskins ( Dan) didn't listen.

Daniel Jones sucks but at least he seems like a hard ass worker and isn't an immature brat.

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New York Giants rookie offensive tackle Andrew Thomas has had his share of growing pains this season, that's for sure.

According to PFF, Thomas has allowed 28 total pressures from the left tackle position, including a season-high nine last week against the Dallas Cowboys.

And Through five weeks, Thomas leads all offensive tackles with 28 pressures.

Giants offensive line coach Marc Colombo said its simply a matter of staying on Thomas each day to get him to clean up some things, but also noted that there is one thing in particular that has shown up on tape that opponents have exploited in Thomas' game.

"Yeah, what he's doing is snapping out of his stance and he's kind of overshooting his target," Colombo explained.

"And what's happening is when you put that on film, you're going to get a heavy dose of it and they're going to change it up. They're going fake up field and come back underneath."

Here is a still-shot of one such instance where Thomas appears to have missed his target, this coming in the second quarter against edge Everson Griffen, No. 97.

Take note of Thomas' positioning as he makes initial contact with Griffen. Thomas is lunging at the defender, and strikes him on the shoulder pad. Griffen, as you'll see in the clip below, then puts a spin move on Thomas and beats him inside for a hit against quarterback Daniel Jones.

"I tell these guys, 'Focus on your target and if your target is the inside number, that's it,'" Colombo said of his teaching point for the offensive linemen. "Wherever that target goes, you go."

Colombo believes that Thomas ha the feet to handle speed rushers, but notes that the inside move defensive players use is "the Cardinal sin" for an offensive lineman to lose.

"That's something I gotta do a better job, coaching him on, on what keys to look for when the guy's going to come inside," Colombo said.
[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/giants/news/new-york-giants-o-line-coach-explains-why-andrew-thomas-is-struggling-inside[/url]

Vagiants high pick LT Thomas is struggling with inside moves.

Good.

Predator is going to feast on Sunday.

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WFT 28 Giants 17 our D shines this week and the Eagles and Dallas loose. I'll watch the whole game because that how I roll.

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This stat is impossible - Washington has now trailed at halftime by at least 10 points in 7 straight games going back to last season. Per
@EliasSports
, that ties an NFL record with the Brooklyn Dodgers (1942-1943) and the Chicago Cardinals (1939).

HOLY SHIT

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1262455]This stat is impossible - Washington has now trailed at halftime by at least 10 points in 7 straight games going back to last season. Per
@EliasSports
, that ties an NFL record with the Brooklyn Dodgers (1942-1943) and the Chicago Cardinals (1939).

HOLY SHIT[/quote]

Coaches don’t have the team ready to play

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[quote=Chico23231;1262456]Coaches don’t have the team ready to play[/quote]

Maybe the team just sucks

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This game will show us just how shitty we really are. Giants 27-10.

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I'm watching every snap. Starting to lose hope and question RR's logic, but the Giants are a mess too, I'd like to see the defense finally play a full game.

As others said we only get 16 of those, and that's if the NFL pulls a miracle against Covid. Even if we don't get another win, we're gonna miss it come February.

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[quote=Burgold;1262427]Giants 27-WFT 17 oh I'm gonna be watching every snap oh and that Jones kid in New York is starting to get confidence, them dropping 34 on the Boyz was no accident I think the kid in the long run will be better than Eli while we on the other hand have nothing at QB....we could activate Joe T with Sonny at backup and be better off.. this season is a wash!![/quote]

There are those on this forum that would not trade Haskins for Jones ... just saying

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[quote=MTK;1262457]Maybe the team just sucks[/quote]

I can’t argue that.

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[quote=MTK;1262457]Maybe the team just sucks[/quote]

That stat shows more than coaching because, players play the game and clearly this team lacks the talent to compete 90% of the time.

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[quote=Chico23231;1262463]I can’t argue that.[/quote]

Truly a flawless argument haha.

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#WashingtonFootball Team QB Dwayne Haskins won’t be at practice again today. Still sick. He went to the facility, took his COVID test and headed back home.

Ok is this dude really sick?