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This is for the left side of the Warpath, do y'all really think Democratic politicians unanimously (literally 100%) support mail-in ballots for everyone because and only because it's just as fair as everyone voting in-person? And it has absolutely nothing to do with them knowing 100% this benefits their party? Honesty would be greatly appreciated here.

Note - A large portion of why I switched from Republican to Libertarian was because I got sick and tired of Republicans supporting the chamber of commerce (aka the chamber of big business), etc. It's ok to admit flaws about your party.

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Realistically, Dems support mail-in voting because they think it gives them the advantage.

Also realistically, does the right seriously believe mail-in voting is susceptible to major fraud when the POTUS, VPOTUS, his staff and plenty of cabinet officials like Barr/etc. use it?

I also think as much as Trump loves being the one-man fix-it show he wouldn't have any problem finding funding for the USPS and for election security. Why is election security a partisan issue? Do we all not want the same thing, a fair election?

I could go into a rant about voter suppression and certain swing states continuing to put restrictions in place to disenfranchise a certain population but we'll save that argument for another day.

S/N: shoutout to you calling out the chamber of commerce. I'm still thirsty waiting for that trickle-down to take effect.

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Mail in voting is extremely dumb because of the multiple obvious issues.

They should move the voting period to a 2 day event and one of those days being a holiday. Absentee voting should cover the rest.

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[quote=Chico23231;1259958]Mail in voting is extremely dumb because of the multiple obvious issues.

They should move the voting period to a 2 day event and one of those days being a holiday. Absentee voting should cover the rest.[/quote]

I definitely think national election day should be a national Holiday. Don't really know what is more important to our country and free people in general than voting.

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Or have election day on a Saturday so people don't have to take time off work. Better yet just have election weekend.

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[quote=mooby;1259953]Realistically, Dems support mail-in voting because they think it gives them the advantage.

[B]Also realistically, does the right seriously believe mail-in voting is susceptible to major fraud when the POTUS, VPOTUS, his staff and plenty of cabinet officials like Barr/etc. use it? [/B]

I also think as much as Trump loves being the one-man fix-it show he wouldn't have any problem finding funding for the USPS and for election security. [B]Why is election security a partisan issue? Do we all not want the same thing, a fair election?[/B]

I could go into a rant about voter suppression and certain swing states continuing to put restrictions in place to disenfranchise a certain population but we'll save that argument for another day.

S/N: shoutout to you calling out the chamber of commerce. I'm still thirsty waiting for that trickle-down to take effect.[/quote]

I think it's way easier to commit fraud by mail than voting in person.

The USPS is a disaster and that goes well back before Trump was president. I don't trust them to properly administer making a sandwich, let alone administer voting security. But yes, we should spend whatever it takes to ensure fair elections. But I don't think the 2 sides are remotely close to agreeing what the security issues are though, such as allowing massive mail-in ballots or not.

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[quote=MTK;1259968]Or have election day on a Saturday so people don't have to take time off work. Better yet just have election weekend.[/quote]

I would be good with this option as well.

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I like the idea of election weekend. Have the open for 48 hours straight if you want to really do it right.

Obviously, it poses certain financial challenges... but this is voting and democracy. Let's do it.

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Republicans would never go for it for obvious reasons.

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[quote=MTK;1259993]Republicans would never go for it for obvious reasons.[/quote]

This. Glad we can all agree that is a better idea than our current system though.

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As a Democrat, i do not believe in mail in ballots in their current form. I feel there needs to be some sort of way to add additional security measures.

There are news reports now from all over the country, of mail tubs being found containing both republican AND Democrat ballots that are undelivered / abandoned, etc.. This should bother every person no matter which way you lean.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1259999]As a Democrat, i do not believe in mail in ballots in their current form. I feel there needs to be some sort of way to add additional security measures.

[B]There are news reports now from all over the country, of mail tubs being found containing both republican AND Democrat ballots that are undelivered / abandoned, etc.[/B]. This should bother every person no matter which way you lean.[/quote]

Source? I've only heard about the 9 ballots in PA that were found in the trash. Which the FBI director already acknowledged, of course there will be small scale instances of voter fraud but no widespread system fraud that could swing the election.

FYI the mail also delivers paychecks, tax forms, social security info, and literally every other piece of correspondence that comes from the gov't. And until recently they were very reliable (before a certain head of USPS removed 600+ high speed sorting machines). I see no reason other than the aforementioned one that ballots would not be able to be successfully delivered.

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[quote=mooby;1259994]This. Glad we can all agree that is a better idea than our current system though.[/quote]

Of course but people like chico and other republican right wing nuts hate it becuase a higher/ better turnout out hurts republicans.

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Anything that causes fewer people to cast a ballot is a bad thing in a democratic republic.

Simple. If you disagree with that you’re either an idiot or clearly have an agenda that benefits from suppressing votes.

Holding votes on Tuesday, bad. Refusing to accept mail in votes when in-person represents a health hazard, bad.

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I know I'm voting by mail this year anyone else?

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[quote=MTK;1260613]I know I'm voting by mail this year anyone else?[/quote]

Already got my mail-in ballot. Some places have multiple hour lines for early voting, screw that noise.

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[quote=MTK;1260613]I know I'm voting by mail this year anyone else?[/quote]

We start early voting on October 26 so I will vote in Person ,the Mrs and my youngest will vote and drop off.

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[quote=MTK;1260613]I know I'm voting by mail this year anyone else?[/quote]

I went online to request but I did have a moment of do I really want to be typing my SSN to some random state employee? I have until October 20th to overcome my irrationalness.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1260690]I went online to request but I did have a moment of do I really want to be typing my SSN to some random state employee? I have until October 20th to overcome my irrationalness.[/quote]

If it makes you feel better unless you live 100% off the grid your info has probably already been exposed dozens of times over

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I just go in...I want to make sure my vote is counted and to be honest I enjoy going out with the rest of my community and participating in the action of voting. I think that’s cool

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I like going in too. I live in a rural area and I bike over to the village it really flusters the parking attendant when I show up with my bike. For some reason it flusters the old people when I am standing there with my bike helmet too. Not sure with decreased open voting precincts if I will have one nearby.

Matty I am sure it is all out there. Like I said irrationalness.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1259952]This is for the left side of the Warpath, do y'all really think Democratic politicians unanimously (literally 100%) support mail-in ballots for everyone because and only because it's just as fair as everyone voting in-person? And it has absolutely nothing to do with them knowing 100% this benefits their party? Honesty would be greatly appreciated here.



Note - A large portion of why I switched from Republican to Libertarian was because I got sick and tired of Republicans supporting the chamber of commerce (aka the chamber of big business), etc. It's ok to admit flaws about your party.[/QUOTE]



Well it benefits their party because their party is not the mainly white party that has voting places on every corner. But that is not anything malicious like the gerrymandering or voter suppression that happens on the right.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1260690]I went online to request but I did have a moment of do I really want to be typing my SSN to some random state employee? I have until October 20th to overcome my irrationalness.[/quote]

I've gotten enough letters from corporate and gov't entities entrusted with my data stating that their data was hacked and my shit was exposed (OPM hack, Playstation hack, Equifax hack, etc.) that I froze my credit years ago. It's worth it for the peace of mind. Firm believer that there isn't any entity out there between the gov't and private industry that takes data security seriously enough to stay a step ahead of hackers.

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[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/as-trump-refuses-to-say-hell-accept-election-results-republicans-press-to-make-voting-harder/ar-BB19TKpO?li=BBnb7Kz[/url]

It's easy to follow the logic here. When you know you can't win the popular vote - you just try to restrict voting as much as possible. 1 ballot box for every Texas county seems fair, until you realize some counties have 1000 people, and the county Houston is in has 4.5 million, 60% of which are minorities.

Next thing they'll be needing is 2 forms of ID and proof of residence to vote.

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[quote=mooby;1261912][url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/as-trump-refuses-to-say-hell-accept-election-results-republicans-press-to-make-voting-harder/ar-BB19TKpO?li=BBnb7Kz[/url]

It's easy to follow the logic here. When you know you can't win the popular vote - you just try to restrict voting as much as possible. 1 ballot box for every Texas county seems fair, until you realize some counties have 1000 people, and the county Houston is in has 4.5 million, 60% of which are minorities.

Next thing they'll be needing is 2 forms of ID and proof of residence to vote.[/quote]

........only if their Democrats ,Republicans can vote as often as necessary.:lol:

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Bit the bullet and requested a mail in

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1261918]Bit the bullet and requested a mail in[/quote]

Yeah just did it today as well. I was surprised I wasnt past the deadline. If I lived in a battleground state like Ohio, Michigan, Iowa, Penn I would def vote in person.

It was easy .. and now I dont have to worry about long waits or covid.

I will definitely miss the voting experience though.

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Like I said before I'm voting in person, then we go out for breakfast.;)

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1259958]Mail in voting is extremely dumb because of the multiple obvious issues.



They should move the voting period to a 2 day event and one of those days being a holiday. Absentee voting should cover the rest.[/QUOTE]


Yeah forget gerrymandering and voter suppression. Forget trying to rig the postal service by making the postmaster general one of your donors that doesn’t know how much a postcard cost to mail. Lets focus on mail in ballots that have literally no history of fraud. [emoji1630] [emoji1630] [emoji1630]

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1262238]Like I said before I'm voting in person, then we go out for breakfast.;)[/QUOTE]



Just mailed in ours today. Because I can. Because it is fair. Because it is not going to entail me standing on line with some Trumper who thinks God is protecting him from Covid.

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[quote=Giantone;1262238]Like I said before I'm voting in person, then we go out for breakfast.;)[/quote]

Something special about voting in person. Unless its illegal, I will vote in person every time until I die (unless there is just absolutely no way I can physically get there). Hope you have a great breakfast that day. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1262267]Something special about voting in person. Unless its illegal, I will vote in person every time until I die (unless there is just absolutely no way I can physically get there). Hope you have a great breakfast that day. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸[/quote]

Thanks.:biggthump

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news.yahoo.com/california-election-officials-denounce-state-gops-fake-ballot-collection-boxes-183436649.html


California's Republican Party Told To Remove Its Unofficial Vote-By-Mail Collection Boxes




California’s attorney general and secretary of state told Republicans on Monday to knock it off after election officials reported that the state party had been breaking the law by placing makeshift, unauthorized ballot dropoff boxes around the state and falsely labeling them “official.”



Following reports of the mysterious ballot collection boxes on Sunday, the chief of California’s elections division released a statement saying “the use of unauthorized, non-official vote-by-mail ballot drop boxes does not comply with state law governing ballot collection activities.

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Speaking of voting, I come home today (been staying at a friends most nights) and my mail is literally nothing but people telling me who and what I should vote for.

Might vote Kristin Gaspar solely for being a smokeshow lol.

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Why am I not surprised.:doh:



[url]https://news.yahoo.com/ohio-printing-company-overwhelmed-mail-141518596.html[/url]


In Ohio, a Printing Company Is Overwhelmed, and Mail Ballots Are Delayed


Midwest Direct is owned by two brothers: Richard Gebbie, the chief executive, and James Gebbie, the chair. This summer they began flying a Trump 2020 flag above Midwest Direct’s headquarters on the west side of Cleveland. It was a curious juxtaposition — a company in the business of distributing absentee ballots through the mail showing a preference for a president who has spent months denigrating the practice of voting by mail.

As the presidential election headed into the final stretch in late summer, counties in Ohio and Pennsylvania worried that a deluge of absentee ballot requests would swamp their printing capacity. So dozens of them contracted with Midwest Direct, a Cleveland mailing company.

But when it came time to print and ship Ohio ballots early last week, it was Midwest Direct that was overwhelmed. Several Ohio counties that expected absentee ballots printed by the company to land in voters’ mailboxes are now scrambling to print them themselves or find a last-minute contingency plan less than three weeks before Election Day.

In Pennsylvania, for instance, nearly 30,000 ballots sent to voters in Allegheny County, which includes Pittsburgh, went to the wrong addresses.

The counties had provided the company with lists of tens of thousands of requests weeks in advance. The company’s inability to meet demand has underscored the stress that mail voting has put on the nation’s election process as the coronavirus pandemic curtails in-person voting. Midwest Direct is the primary outside provider of absentee ballots for 16 Ohio counties, though many also have their own in-house operations

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lol my mail in ballot has been sitting in my car for a week plus now.

im going to drop it off to drop box tonight

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Sent mine in. Other than the intense amount of personal information the state used to verify I am who I say I am it was a comfortable process. Received a confirmation email when it was delivered and then a confirmation email that it was received for processing. Looks like you will be able to follow its processing which is pretty nice.

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I have a question (a morbid one I admit), and I am curious if anybody knows the procedure in place (I assume there is one). I voted early at a polling place. If I were to die before tomorrow, would my ballot count? Same question for mail in ballots.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1264129]I have a question (a morbid one I admit), and I am curious if anybody knows the procedure in place (I assume there is one). I voted early at a polling place. If I were to die before tomorrow, would my ballot count? Same question for mail in ballots.[/quote]

Yes, you were alive when you filled it out and mailed it, weren't you?

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1264132]Yes, you were alive when you filled it out and mailed it, weren't you?[/QUOTE]That makes sense, but since I am not on the date of the vote, in the hypothetical, I wondered if that's something thats checked.

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