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skinsfaninok 04-24-2020 10:22 PM

Antonio Gibson
 
Some notes :

6'2 220 4.39 forty time

38 Rec 735 yards 8 Tds last yr.

65% REC PERCENTAGE


: Antonio Gibson is a fascinating NFL Draft projection with a wide range of outcomes in the NFL. A RB/WR hybrid player in a crowded Memphis backfield, Gibson took the majority of his snaps at WR across his two seasons at Memphis after rising up through the JUCO ranks. Gibson projects to RB at the NFL level given his smooth change of direction, quality contact balance, and explosive cuts in the open field, but his narrow frame of reference for blocking schemes at this stage make that position a multi-year projection. Gibson will first contribute as a returner and third-down back, and his WR background will benefit teams willing to feature him a pass-catching back on routes split out wide and from the backfield. A walking explosive play, Gibson has homerun hitting ability and an extremely high ceiling if his promising vision and feel continue to grow, and should be viewed as a potential starter by Year 3. He deserves back-end of Day 2 consideration.

sdskinsfan2001 04-24-2020 10:24 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
We needed someone to soothe us immediate doubters (me). Now that we didn't skip Young and get Tua I can love you again lol.

SkinzWin 04-24-2020 10:24 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
Overview
"Big athlete with position versatility" will be a tag from some, but it's vague and lacks projection. While Gibson is a one-year wonder, his 14 career touchdowns on just 77 touches demand attention. He played more slot than running back in college, but he was a runner in high school and has an intriguing combination of size, burst, vision and power. He is a four-phase player on Day 1 with the ability to return kicks, cover them and create matchup problems for linebackers out of the backfield. The sample size is extremely limited and he needs a developmental runway, but Gibson has exciting upside as a pro.

Strengths
Makes explosive plays in running, receiving and return game
Offers additional matchup possibilities for coordinators
Runs much faster than it looks
High school sprinter with breakaway potential
Had seven total touchdowns of 40-plus yards
Quick gather and cut on stretch plays
Big runner who absorbs and dismisses angle tackles
Decisive runner and gets to a quality burst
Sees space well with ball in his hands
Sells route stems to tilt coverage off-balance

Weaknesses
Only one season of production
Has 34 career rush attempts
Hip tightness limits fluidity in the open field
Needs more discipline to keep runs on track when it's there
Still learning patience and to set up blocks
Only saw offset stretch runs and jet sweeps as a back
Rolls and drifts in his route breaks
Takes too long getting in and out of breaks

skinsfaninok 04-24-2020 10:25 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1250554]We needed someone to soothe us immediate doubters (me). Now that we didn't skip Young and get Tua I can love you again lol.[/quote]

haha Thanks bro

FrenchSkin 04-24-2020 10:26 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR2EMjL6oGM"]Effin'[/URL]


[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCfX4j7hEsI"]Play[/URL]


[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKm9IkvBopI"]Maker[/URL]

sdskinsfan2001 04-24-2020 10:27 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1250556]haha Thanks bro[/quote]

I know my approval is very important to you (definite sarcasm).

2 picks, 2 playmakers. That'll play.

skinsfaninok 04-24-2020 10:27 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
I was thinking GB would snag him but we got lucky. He's a playmaker and will return punts and kicks most likely

Pervis_Griffith 04-24-2020 10:30 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
I think this is a solid pick. We do need playmakers. I was kinda hoping that Bryce Love would return to form after sitting out a year with his knee. But this guy sounds like he could also be that guy.


We have lots of holes to fill. This guy is good enough to help us.

Chico23231 04-24-2020 10:35 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
I was saying the skins need playmakers...but where will he line up?

skinsfaninok 04-24-2020 10:35 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=Chico23231;1250563]I was saying the skins need playmakers...but where will he line up?[/quote]

Prob slot

sdskinsfan2001 04-24-2020 10:37 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1250561]I think this is a solid pick. We do need playmakers. I was kinda hoping that Bryce Love would return to form after sitting out a year with his knee. But this guy sounds like he could also be that guy.


We have lots of holes to fill. This guy is good enough to help us.[/quote]

Apparently this guy is as just as much of more a WR/multi threat as a RB, I'm still excited for Love. He was a certified stud before the injury. And the team let him have another full year to get right. One of the few things they got right last year.

sdskinsfan2001 04-24-2020 10:39 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
You can do some things formationally with him. Like line him up in the backfield then motion him out to create an advantage in coverage against a LB or SS. Gives Turner some options.

SFREDSKIN 04-24-2020 10:40 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=Chico23231;1250563]I was saying the skins need playmakers...but where will he line up?[/quote]

All over the field, as a 3rd down back, WR, any combination Scott Turner decides. Him and McLaurin have killer speed, Gibson had 7 40+ touchdowns.

SkinzWin 04-24-2020 10:51 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1250565]Prob slot[/quote]

Redskins beat report on twitter said sources have said he will line up in the backfield with Peterson or Guice in 21 personnel. I’m sure he will flex out a bunch too.

httr198020 04-24-2020 11:23 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=Chico23231;1250563]I was saying the skins need playmakers...but where will he line up?[/quote]

He can line up anywhere. That is what makes this such a great pick. He does good work on the outside and the slot. He's super explosive, hard to tackle, with great vision.

Irrefutable 04-24-2020 11:57 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=Chico23231;1250563]I was saying the skins need playmakers...but where will he line up?[/quote]

probably everywhere.....put him in the backfield forcling a LB to cover him...game over

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-25-2020 12:24 AM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=Chico23231;1250563]I was saying the skins need playmakers...but where will he line up?[/quote]

Slot, think of Deebo Samuel, that is the type of player he is

httr198020 04-25-2020 01:37 AM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1250618]Slot, think of Deebo Samuel, that is the type of player he is[/quote]

He's more of a Tyreek Hill type player with a Deebo Samuel build.

Chico23231 04-25-2020 07:20 AM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=SkinzWin;1250582]Redskins beat report on twitter said sources have said he will line up in the backfield with Peterson or Guice in 21 personnel. I’m sure he will flex out a bunch too.[/quote]

Hmmm interesting. Think I found it:

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Coryell[/url]

Norv Turner, a former Washington Redskins and San Diego Chargers head coach, and offensive coordinator of the Dallas Cowboys, San Francisco 49ers and currently the Carolina Panthers, also implements a version of the Coryell style of offense. The Turner strain of Coryell offenses are still very reliant on a good receiving TE. Norv [B]Turner strains sometimes feature an 'F-Back' (formerly known as an 'H-Back' in the 1980s), a hybrid tight end/wide receiver/fullback/running back. An F-Back is a multi-purpose, unpredictable tool for the offense. On any play he may carry the ball, lead block or pass block, play as a wide receiver, or run a tight end route. He is also part decoy, as his unpredictable role forces defenses to keep an eye on him, thereby opening up other opportunities for the offense.[/B]

Norv’s influence on Scott. It’s gonna be a little bit of a Cooley type that Gibbs used except focus will be less blocking, more vertical up the field

skinsfan69 04-25-2020 07:50 AM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
I don't care where he lines up. You put Terry, Sims and Gibson on the field along with Guice or Love and you got guys that can take it to the damn house.

Buffalo Bob 04-25-2020 08:39 AM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[I][B]Hip tightness limits fluidity in the open field[/B][/I]

What does a comment like this mean? Is it saying he only runs well in a straight line?

FrenchSkin 04-25-2020 08:55 AM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=Buffalo Bob;1250638][I][B]Hip tightness limits fluidity in the open field[/B][/I]

What does a comment like this mean? Is it saying he only runs well in a straight line?[/quote]

That's not what shows on tape for sure. The guy is a video game breaking tackles and making guys miss all over the place...

CrustyRedskin 04-25-2020 09:13 AM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=Buffalo Bob;1250638][I][B]Hip tightness limits fluidity in the open field[/B][/I]

What does a comment like this mean? Is it saying he only runs well in a straight line?[/quote]

It means the writer needed one more bullet point in the weakness column. :Smoker:

mooby 04-25-2020 09:46 AM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=Chico23231;1250563]I was saying the skins need playmakers...but where will he line up?[/quote]

Wherever the matchup advantage is.

NYCskinfan82 04-25-2020 10:38 AM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
Antonio Gibson Welcome to THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS.

Chico23231 04-25-2020 10:51 AM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=mooby;1250646]Wherever the matchup advantage is.[/quote]

Exactly...LBs and box safeties trying to cover 4.39 out the backfield

This is a total H-back pick who they can motion out into formation

SunnySide 04-25-2020 11:16 AM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
At least we know Kyle and RR say true to their BPA board bc if they were need based, TE Trauttman and OT Jones were there.

Based on my 10 mins of research on this young man ... my fail can’t miss comparison is a less polished but more explosive Antwaan Randle-El. Watching highlights it’s handoffs or catches where no one is within 3 steps of him. I didn’t see a lot of out of the backfield stuff. I saw 1 kinda short screen type play near the end zone.

I don’t think he will be getting those cushions in the nfl like he did in the AAC. Can he get separation off his route running, can he make a contested catch?

Can he even run nfl routes? Have at least average nfl hands? From what I read ... no. He’s a project with a lot of physical ability upside.

skinsfaninok 04-25-2020 11:25 AM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
Ron did say he will play him at RB as well so I'm thinking he could be a version of CMAC for us

mooby 04-25-2020 12:46 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
My only wonder is if this is one of those cases where the 40 yard numbers don't line up with the tape. His highlights seems like he runs slower than a 4.4. Time will tell, but if we use him right and he makes plays I don't care where they slot him at.

httr198020 04-26-2020 09:16 AM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=mooby;1250739]My only wonder is if this is one of those cases where the 40 yard numbers don't line up with the tape. His highlights seems like he runs slower than a 4.4. Time will tell, but if we use him right and he makes plays I don't care where they slot him at.[/quote] What? This dude looks like the most explosive player in this draft. He plays like he runs a 4.3. The 40 time does line up with the tape. If he was like 20 pounds lighter he probably run a 4.2. We can't be looking at the same player.

mooby 04-26-2020 10:03 AM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=httr198020;1250954]What? This dude looks like the most explosive player in this draft. He plays like he runs a 4.3. The 40 time does line up with the tape. If he was like 20 pounds lighter he probably run a 4.2. We can't be looking at the same player.[/quote]

Maybe it was just the ESPN clip they put together, it was mostly shots of him breaking tackles, making cuts and hitting the hole hard. Gave me the impression he plays heavier than 220.

skinsfaninok 04-26-2020 10:25 AM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
Good friend of mine was on the Memphis staff, he can't say better things about this kid. Apparently he's a workout warrior and a true team player.. He will do whatever it takes to help the team.. That's the kind of attitude this new regime brings!! HTTR

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-26-2020 11:20 AM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=mooby;1250955]Maybe it was just the ESPN clip they put together, it was mostly shots of him breaking tackles, making cuts and hitting the hole hard. Gave me the impression he plays heavier than 220.[/quote]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smja4gFrSX8&t=214s[/url]

Here is a highlight tape, I see him breaking tackles but I also see him running away from people as well.

sdskinsfan2001 04-26-2020 12:59 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
This was a luxury pick. But BPA can look like like luxury, because it doesn't give a shit about the current depth chart. He is another weapon.

The WR and RB numbers are gonna be interesting. We can't fit all of these guys onto the roster.

Predictions:

RB: AP, Guice, McKissic
WR: McLaurin, Gandy-Golden, Sims Jr., Harmon, Latimer
Combo: Gibson

Doesn't leave any room for Barber who we just signed or Love. I mean if Love isn't ready for training camp, I'll just assume he's never playing for us. I don't see anyone that is either someone we can trade or someone that holds much trade value.

SFREDSKIN 04-26-2020 01:35 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1250978]This was a luxury pick. But BPA can look like like luxury, because it doesn't give a shit about the current depth chart. He is another weapon.

The WR and RB numbers are gonna be interesting. We can't fit all of these guys onto the roster.

Predictions:

RB: AP, Guice, McKissic
WR: McLaurin, Gandy-Golden, Sims Jr., Harmon, Latimer
Combo: Gibson

Doesn't leave any room for Barber who we just signed or Love. I mean if Love isn't ready for training camp, I'll just assume he's never playing for us. I don't see anyone that is either someone we can trade or someone that holds much trade value.[/quote]

Really? You are leaving Love out? He’ll be more than ready.

httr198020 04-26-2020 01:39 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=mooby;1250955]Maybe it was just the ESPN clip they put together, it was mostly shots of him breaking tackles, making cuts and hitting the hole hard. Gave me the impression he plays heavier than 220.[/quote] Antonio Gibson is an elite athlete on anyone's standard. At 230 pounds he's fast lighting, elusive, strong, and powerful. He averages nearly 20 yards per catch, 11 yards per carry, and a td every seven touches. What is more impressive than that is the fact that he breaks a tackle on 48% of carries. Due to his versatility he's going to be a match up nightmare. He needs to work on his blocking and route running. Even a slight improvement in those areas makes him extremely dangerous. I really love this pick.

SFREDSKIN 04-26-2020 01:41 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
Gibson’s build reminds me of the Titans AJ Brown

sdskinsfan2001 04-26-2020 01:50 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1250981]Really? You are leaving Love out? He’ll be more than ready.[/quote]

Nothing I've heard said he's even available to play. I mentioned him. But I assume McKissic was signed to be our 3rd down back and Gibson is RB 3.5/4. Where does Love fit?

SFREDSKIN 04-26-2020 01:54 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1250984]Nothing I've heard said he's even available to play. I mentioned him. But I assume McKissic was signed to be our 3rd down back and Gibson is RB 3.5/4. Where does Love fit?[/quote]

You would be crazy to cut Love and keep McKissick. Go to 17:05 on the video below, he’s ready.

[url]https://youtu.be/wm8YQyMHoXA[/url]

httr198020 04-26-2020 04:49 PM

Re: Antonio Gibson
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1250984]Nothing I've heard said he's even available to play. I mentioned him. But I assume McKissic was signed to be our 3rd down back and Gibson is RB 3.5/4. Where does Love fit?[/quote]

Love is way too talented to simply cut him. If we can get him back at 70% of what he was before the injury he'll easily be one of the more explosive backs in the league.


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