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Vernon Davis concussion protocol per PFT

[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/02/report-vernon-davis-in-concussion-protocol/[/url]

That train is never late, huh? I will never understand how the front office this past offseason looked at our roster and said 16 million, multiple games missed, and worst run block in the league...yup, the TE position is doing great.

Multiple options to correct this.

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Holtz is their most complete and reliable TE and they don't even know it. As usual, pathetic judgement and decision making by the coaching staff.

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Don"t worry - NFL got the Skins back. Its all just setting us up for huge entertainment drama. Skina are 9 and 6 on past 10/6 games. Goto 10 and 6 this 10/6.

I know it.

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In reality, i think Belicheck and Brady use this as a statement game, 45-10 or worse is possible.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1232636]In reality, i think Belicheck and Brady use this as a statement game, 45-10 or worse is possible.

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They're known for keeping the foot on the gas even when the game is well in hand. It's how they maintain their killer instinct, there's only one mode: full go.

45-10 sounds right and the 10 will come in garbage time.

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For the first time in my adult life I've made a tee time at 2pm on Sunday, right when they're playing. I'll still DVR it and watch it later, but still. I consider myself as diehard as they come, and that's how far Dan and Bruce have pushed this franchise. I'm not checking out but I've started thinking about how I don't want to lose a chance to play golf on one of the last nice weather days before it turns cold.

When the team was 7-9 and crappy I still didn't do this. It's actually come to that now. Kind of unbelievable.

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Do the Pats still hold the record for the tv blackout streak of 17 games?

Die hard fans though ... after 2002.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1232634]Holtz is their most complete and reliable TE and they don't even know it. As usual, pathetic judgement and decision making by the coaching staff.[/quote]

JP Hotz is a Chicago bear...I think they signed him off our practice squad

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I almost hope they start Colt and play him the whole game then I will just work in my shop and listen on the radio. I was on my way to getting some chores done last Sunday after watching less than a quarter but when I heard they put Haskins in I went back and watched the rest of the game.

If Haskins plays I will watch, but I doubt it will be pretty. Patriots coming off a tough game in Buffalo and being served up a rookie QB who needs lots of work.
Sounds like the makings of a massacre.

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Won't be watching much, Pats will win 42-7

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Sometimes I'll say, "The Skins will win because it would make no sense to beat the Patriots." This is the most 1000% sure I am of a loss in my fandom. :( I'd be SHOCKED if we even scored 3.

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The team has checked out as has the Head coach, the only winnable game is miami and that is a stretch

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[quote=Chico23231;1232641]JP Hotz is a Chicago bear...I think they signed him off our practice squad[/quote]

Yup. That was an odd sequence. We waive him during our final cuts and successfully stash him on our PS.Then call him up for week 1 and he plays some snaps for us. We then waive him again after week 1 to try and send him back to PS but the Bears claimed him this time.

With Reed's injury, at that point, it was clear he was going to be out extended or perhaps forever ... and with Davis being older .... surprised they didnt waive someone else.

Sucks that we essentially have a 51 man roster with Colt and Reed taking up active spots.

I wouldnt be surprised if Jay doesnt even get to decide minut roster moves like to keep or waive Holtz at this point. It might be a Callahan or Allen decision.

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[quote=SunnySide;1232649]Yup. That was an odd sequence. We waive him during our final cuts and successfully stash him on our PS.Then call him up for week 1 and he plays some snaps for us. We then waive him again after week 1 to try and send him back to PS but the Bears claimed him this time.

With Reed's injury, at that point, it was clear he was going to be out extended or perhaps forever ... and with Davis being older .... surprised they didnt waive someone else.

Sucks that we essentially have a 51 man roster with Colt and Reed taking up active spots.

I wouldnt be surprised if Jay doesnt even get to decide minut roster moves like to keep or waive Holtz at this point. It might be a Callahan or Allen decision.[/quote]

Should have ir to return with Reed and signed Holtz to squad. A lot of beat reporters praised jp play in preseason. Bears clearly saw he has some talent.

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The Pats are a little beat up so maybe the Skins hang around. I just don't see us doing anything against their defense.

This is the type of game where Gruden should just empty out the playbook. Fake punts, trick plays, maybe an on side kick. Why not? He's perhaps on borrowed time.

I really don't even care. I'm all about the Nats. At this point I just want Dan and Bruce to be embarrassed so hopefully it's 70% Pats fans, and the score is somewhere as bad as it was the last time we played them.

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Keeping Colt had to be 100% Gruden. Once that choice is made you are forced to cut a player like Holz or Parham. Solely Grudens responsibility.
Having Reed on the team is the same except likely falls on BA for not trading him in the offseason.

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Biggest game of the year.
Gruden rolls out Colt as a FU to Dan and Bruce(and the fans?) then gets fired on Monday.
On Tuesday, we start the offseason thread and talk about getting a 3rd rounder for Trent since they already fucked up getting a first.

The offseason is 12 weeks early this year! Lets Party!!!! WOOOHOOOO!
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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1232645]Sometimes I'll say, "The Skins will win because it would make no sense to beat the Patriots." This is the most 1000% sure I am of a loss in my fandom. :( I'd be SHOCKED if we even scored 3.[/quote]

The chances of the Redskins pulling a surprise went out the window last Sunday when Buffalo made the Patriots fight tooth and nail for a win.

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[quote=Schneed10;1232639]For the first time in my adult life I've made a tee time at 2pm on Sunday, right when they're playing. I'll still DVR it and watch it later, but still. I consider myself as diehard as they come, and that's how far Dan and Bruce have pushed this franchise. I'm not checking out but I've started thinking about how I don't want to lose a chance to play golf on one of the last nice weather days before it turns cold.

When the team was 7-9 and crappy I still didn't do this. It's actually come to that now. Kind of unbelievable.[/quote]

Same here man, I will work the game Monday but on Sunday I'm watching other games

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[quote=Chico23231;1232641]JP Hotz is a Chicago bear...I think they signed him off our practice squad[/quote]

It figures. This organization never learns.

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Picked up Brady for this week to get my 30+ fantasy points.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1232673]Picked up Brady for this week to get my 30+ fantasy points.[/QUOTE]Jay Gruden might as well be scouring this weeks fantasy waiver wire after saying we dont have a starting qb right now...

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[url]http://www.redskins.com/news/redskins-patriots-week-5-bill-belichick[/url]

Bahahahahahahaha!

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“[The offense] makes you defend everything -- the running game, the play action, the quick throws, the screens and the vertical passing game where they’ve hit a number of big plays,” Belichick said. “[Head Coach Jay] Gruden does a good job of springing those guys free and getting them vertically into the defense for potential big plays.”

The offense fits into Gruden’s philosophy and background, Belichick said, meaning it has flashes of the West Coast style and gives the quarterback the chance to make decisions and get the ball to their skill players.

^^ from the article above ...

Im sure BB is just coach speaking but I do think our passing scheme is the only thing we do well and the only thing I think Jay has 100% control over. This seems like Kyle Shannahan all over again .. a good offensive coach that we over look or under value bc of all the other chaos and failure around us.

Jay is a top 15 offensive coord but a bottom 15 head coach.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1232677][url]http://www.redskins.com/news/redskins-patriots-week-5-bill-belichick[/url]

Bahahahahahahaha!

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Straight up bulletin board material there. Every player on the Skins knows that's a joke. Problem is they won't even be competitive into the 2nd quarter.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1232677][url]http://www.redskins.com/news/redskins-patriots-week-5-bill-belichick[/url]

Bahahahahahahaha!

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They get vertically free and Keenum throws it way too vertically over their heads.

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[quote=SunnySide;1232678]“[The offense] makes you defend everything -- the running game, the play action, the quick throws, the screens and the vertical passing game where they’ve hit a number of big plays,” Belichick said. “[Head Coach Jay] Gruden does a good job of springing those guys free and getting them vertically into the defense for potential big plays.”

The offense fits into Gruden’s philosophy and background, Belichick said, meaning it has flashes of the West Coast style and gives the quarterback the chance to make decisions and get the ball to their skill players.

^^ from the article above ...

Im sure BB is just coach speaking but I do think our passing scheme is the only thing we do well and the only thing I think Jay has 100% control over. This seems like Kyle Shannahan all over again .. a good offensive coach that we over look or under value bc of all the other chaos and failure around us.

Jay is a top 15 offensive coord but a bottom 15 head coach.[/quote]

Top 15 passing game coordinator. Worst running game coordinator. He is mediocre at best as an OC too imo.

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Redskins win 27-24 in OT

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1232681]Top 15 passing game coordinator. Worst running game coordinator. He is mediocre at best as an OC too imo.[/quote]

I blame Callahan for the run game. I dont think Jay had any say so in hiring or retaining Manunsky or Tomsula but he gets blamed for hiring and not firing them. I honestly dont think he has the power to hire or fire his own coaching staff. I think jay was forced to allow Callahan to be the asst off coord and come up w the weekly run game plan. We know Jay had no input on the trade for Alex Smith or drafting Haskins.

I think Jay only has strict control over the passing scheme. He has never gotten the chance to draft or add a QB of his choosing. I only judge Jay for the passing scheme ... and our passing scheme is the only thing that we do well. We have guys open .. problem is either our subpar QBs dont see them, over throw them or the line doesnt hold up.

Belichick is praising the passing scheme, which is kinda like his and McVays etc .. west coast but always looking for the big play potential. Making a key defender have to make a decision, allow the QB to only have to read that key defender and based on what that key defender does, the QB knows where to go with the ball.

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[quote=Giantone;1232684]Redskins win 27-24 in OT[/quote]

go home

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[quote=Giantone;1232684]Redskins win 27-24 in OT[/quote]

Honestly, just for trolling us with that, I hope it happens. (It won't.)

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Jay today "we don't have a QB right now"

Lol what a trainwreck

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1232696]Jay today "we don't have a QB right now"

Lol what a trainwreck

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If you were making a spoof movie of a dumb fuck NFL franchise, it wouldn't do the Redskins justice. I hate being a fan of this team.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1232696]Jay today "we don't have a QB right now"

Lol what a trainwreck

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Was blown away by this comment. Even if true, why tell the media about it? I am floored.

Admitting that they do not have a PLAN for the QB position?

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jay-gruden-has-an-unfortunately-honest-answer-about-redskins-qb-situation/ar-AAIc8OV?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=msnbcrd[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1232675]Jay Gruden might as well be scouring this weeks fantasy waiver wire after saying we dont have a starting qb right now...

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He only said that because he thought that saying "Please fire me!" would sound weak.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1232699]Was blown away by this comment. Even if true, why tell the media about it? I am floored.

Admitting that they do not have a PLAN for the QB position?

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jay-gruden-has-an-unfortunately-honest-answer-about-redskins-qb-situation/ar-AAIc8OV?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=msnbcrd[/url][/quote]

youve heard the term decoy,no? they do it all the time in football.
will injured player play or not etc.
you take it literally? they know whos starting. Just not telling press or Pats yet.

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All betting lines, odds and prop bets are available on FanDuel Sportsbook.
Moneyline: NE: (-1200) | WAS: (+810)
Spread: NE: -15 (-110) | WAS: +15 (-110)
Total: 43.5 – Over: (-110) | Under: (-110)
Public (Spread) Betting Percentages: NE: 87% | WAS: 13%
Odds to Win Super Bowl LIV: NE: (+340) | WAS: (+25000)

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Smell test says take the Skins plus the 15. I might. I dont bet or gamble but I want to start sports betting. I might start doing a couple of Kevin Sheehan's smell test recommendations.

15 points in an NFL game .. that seems unheard of. 87% of the money on the pats = bet against the 87%

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[quote=SunnySide;1232702]All betting lines, odds and prop bets are available on FanDuel Sportsbook.
Moneyline: NE: (-1200) | WAS: (+810)
Spread: NE: -15 (-110) | WAS: +15 (-110)
Total: 43.5 – Over: (-110) | Under: (-110)
Public (Spread) Betting Percentages: NE: 87% | WAS: 13%
Odds to Win Super Bowl LIV: NE: (+340) | WAS: (+25000)

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Smell test says take the Skins plus the 15. I might. I dont bet or gamble but I want to start sports betting. I might start doing a couple of Kevin Sheehan's smell test recommendations.

15 points in an NFL game .. that seems unheard of. 87% of the money on the pats = bet against the 87%[/quote]

prediction-
over/under = 55
Redskins 34
Pats 21

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I think the only thing to guess this week is how much we're going to lose by.

The line is 15?

I'd say double up on that on the Pats side. This is their homecoming game. A tune-up to get ready for the real meat on the schedule.

Pats by at least 30. I'm gonna start getting alternate plans ready in case we go down by 3 td's in the first half.

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I doubt I'll be watching too much of this game if at all cuz I don't plant to go to the bar.. I have an important meeting 8am Monday and I want to be sharp not hungover and disappointed lol.