Redskins Free Agency Plan. Who you got your list?
 

Hey folks…So what’s your effing plan for Free Agency…who’s on your hit list? Are you going Big Splash style….you gonna let the market set itself and pick off good value? You resigning your own? Before you do anything you should probably sort rank biggest needs, look at your roster, and see whose on the market. With the draft coming, what do you attack…what you wait on?
Couple resources:

[url]http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/2019-nfl-free-agents-ranking-top-players-by-position-tracking-signings/i6brxq6i36yd1jdqikshec5gj[/url]

[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/02/19/best-free-agents-lawrence-clowney-foles-landon-collins-leveon-bell[/url]

So first Ill list my areas of need
LG
WR
Pass Rusher
Safety (2)

Lesser needs, but determine if FO keeps/cuts:
Blocking TE (Y)
Slot Corner
RB
ILB
Oline Depth

So I would certainly create some space by cutting Vernon Davis, Z Brown & Stacy McGee. I’m also not resigning Preston or Crowder.

So IMO, I honestly believe there are some outstanding values and based on our “cap crunch” and the fact the team is lame ducking with Jay and possibly (hopefully) Bruce.

LG – So there is not a big splash guy and in the draft 2-4 rounds holds around 6 strong prospects. IMO, we should address the position with a veteran presence…we simply cant wait til the draft. Quinton Spain, James Carpenter, Tom Compton (city of) are good options on short affordable deals providing starting and solid depth. I would certainly draft a Guard this draft as well.

WR – I really don’t like anybody in the group but John Brown had a great year in Baltimore and brings much needed speed. He plays outside and has previous slot experience. I really think he is head and shoulders above everyone else in the free agency group. I would check on initially and then see if after the first wave of signing he remains. I would see if a short term deal would get him here. Brown could be a great asset against Richardson injury and slot WR uncertainty. If Brown isn’t available or too much, I would closely watch Desean Jax status in Tampa to see if he would become available.

Pass Rusher – First, I’m looking at the draft for pass rusher especially in the first 2 rounds. Can we afford to punt it with til the draft with Preston leaving? NOPE. There is a lot of talent here and we have an opportunity for a good value. I’m looking for a speed rush guy…2 I like. The veteran Justin Houston who was a cap casualty and Dante Fowler Jr. With Houston, a short term, incentive deal as a pass rush specialist would help the team. I’m also gonna peak at Fowler Jr with less seriousness, but a prove it deal may work with him. He played well in the playoffs, and a 1 year deal “Preston” insurance would be great.

Safety - Welcome to the biggest market in history of free agency for Safety…guess what, we need 2. Now your big splash item Collins/Honey Badger makes sense…I like both. But Collins in coverage was terrible last year…NFL analyst said he had a 120 passer rater against him in coverage…not good. But I’m gonna list 2 here I really like…FS Tre Boston and SS Kenny Vaccaro. Tre Boston just gets it done and this year he got some notice…He a great coverage Safety who would complement the defense. He should be affordable on a short deal. Vaccaro was awesome in Tennessee last year and will be a cheaper option than Collins/Badger.

Those are my targets…value base guys who could impact the roster at postions of need.

A couple other names I really like….RB Mike Davis out of Seattle to replace AP back up Guice. I would peak at TE Maxx Williams as a Y TE to replace VD…he might be too much, but Id reach out. There are some decent Slot Corner, but I think with other holes id prioritize it less and not spend a lot.

What you got?

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I hope we keep real quiet in free agency. Look at some of the guys that are coming free that got paid a few years ago. .. D Jackson, Vernon, Tate, none really did much. Just look at our own signings? All it does is get people excited and by the time the season is over it's buyers remorse. I'd be very open to Honey Badger but why is he now going on his 3rd team? He's still in the prime of his career. If the price is right he's my only signing.

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Jesse James TE and Tre Boston FS..... probably 3 or 4 million each.

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Tyrann Mathieu is my number 1

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1219720]Tyrann Mathieu is my number 1[/QUOTE]I love that dude.

Im not sure why he has bounced around as much as he has though.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1219720]Tyrann Mathieu is my number 1[/quote]

He earned $7 million in 2018. What will he cost in a long term contract?

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I'd love honey Badger but he stated that he wants to play for a contender on his social media.

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Crowder is going for about 8M. I wouldn't keep him, Quinn can do the job

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Keim has mentioned cole Beasley as a WR option....only on a low deal offer would I bring him in..I’d take that money and put it towards a WR with more speed. We need more team speed all over the field...WR, ILB, Pass Rusher are areas where our lack of speed shows up the most.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1219729]Crowder is going for about 8M. I wouldn't keep him, Quinn can do the job

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Quinn has shown nothing except that he is injury prone. Crowder is one of our better players when healthy. I hope we keep him but 8 million is probably too much.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1219732]Quinn has shown nothing except that he is injury prone. Crowder is one of our better players when healthy. I hope we keep him but 8 million is probably too much.[/quote]

What really irks me if the front office wants crowder back, why the fuck wouldn’t you attempt an extension at some point in the season? There is no way in hell im paying crowder 8 million per. If you look at the WR free agent, not a lot there meaning guys will probably get overpaid.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1219733]What really irks me if the front office wants crowder back, why the fuck wouldn’t you attempt an extension at some point in the season? There is no way in hell im paying crowder 8 million per. If you look at the WR free agent, not a lot there meaning guys will probably get overpaid.[/QUOTE]Great point.

Approach Crowder, Long, Murphy right after they were injured.

Try to sign at a discount.

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Give me an Adrian Amos and Clinton-Dix or Collins safety combo for next year.

We for sure need to sign at least one safety.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1219735]Give me an Adrian Amos and Clinton-Dix or Collins safety combo for next year.

We for sure need to sign at least one safety.[/quote]

You know, there is a reason why the market is flushed...it’s an universal statement by defense coaches. Previous years good teams let safety walk and the market wasn’t spitting out a lot of money for them last year.

Right now, teams are contacting others about franchise tagged pass
Rushers...that’s where the interest is...

I wouldn’t sign 2 high price safetys

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[quote=Chico23231;1219736]You know, there is a reason why the market is flushed...it’s an universal statement by defense coaches. Previous years good teams let safety walk and the market wasn’t spitting out a lot of money for them last year.

Right now, teams are contacting others about franchise tagged pass
Rushers...that’s where the interest is...

I wouldn’t sign 2 high price safetys[/quote]

Yeah, probably more wishful thinking than reality. Need 2 safeties tho. 1 FA and 1 draft pick would be fine by me.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1219738]Yeah, probably more wishful thinking than reality. Need 2 safeties tho. 1 FA and 1 draft pick would be fine by me.[/quote]

3 more veteran safetys have been cut in the last 24 hours by Jax, Arizona and San Diego. Flushed market

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Rumor is that the Giants would like Collins to play at LBer and willing to do a one year look and see.

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[quote=Giantone;1219742]Rumor is that the Giants would like Collins to play at LBer and willing to do a one year look and see.[/quote]

He's actually a great fit at LB

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[quote=Chico23231;1219740]3 more veteran safetys have been cut in the last 24 hours by Jax, Arizona and San Diego. Flushed market[/quote]

I would sign 2 veterans at modest contracts.... Adrian Phillips and draft 2 rookies..... Apke should be a WR project, he is not a safety

[url]http://www.nfl.com/player/adrianphillips/2550842/profile[/url]

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[quote=Irrefutable;1219744]I would sign 2 veterans at modest contracts.... Adrian Phillips and draft 2 rookies..... Apke should be a WR project, he is not a safety

[url]http://www.nfl.com/player/adrianphillips/2550842/profile[/url][/quote]

You will be able to get a solid safety at 2.0-2.5 mill per.

With the safety market with about 10 solid starters available...expect Preston Smith to get a bigger contract than Collins/Honey badger.

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[quote=Chico23231;1219733]What really irks me if the front office wants crowder back, why the fuck wouldn’t you attempt an extension at some point in the season? There is no way in hell im paying crowder 8 million per. If you look at the WR free agent, not a lot there meaning guys will probably get overpaid.[/quote]

I think it's pretty obvious they're willing to let him walk. We already know Jay has a man crush on Quinn. But I would be very surprised to see Crowder get 8 million per.

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I just don't understand why anyone would pay Preston big money. He is just as average as average gets. The tape isn't lying.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1219749]I just don't understand why anyone would pay Preston big money. He is just as average as average gets. The tape isn't lying.[/quote]

His stats are decent for a 3 year starter. I cannot find how many hurries he has (a very underrated stat). I am not a big fan, but it just takes 2 or 3 teams to get in a bidding war. I hope he gets $$$$$$$$ and the Redskins get 3rd round compensatory pick.

[url]https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitPr00.htm[/url]

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It’s why safeties are being cut and not given contracts....pass rushers are being franchise tag yet teams are calling them about trades willing to give draft picks and sign them to lucrative contracts.

Pass Rushers >>..........DL.......CB...........LB..........Safeties.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1219751]It’s why safeties are being cut and not given contracts....pass rushers are being franchise tag yet teams are calling them about trades willing to give draft picks and sign them to lucrative contracts.

Pass Rushers >>..........DL.......CB...........LB..........Safeties.[/QUOTE]Safeties aren't as important anymore, they can't hit. Only if u have a great cover safety (Eddie Jackson)

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I don't see Collins coming to DC, the $ isn't there. I'd imagine Indy, Detroit, SF etc.

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I do not see any big name or big contacts this year. Be patient, the second/third tier players will not not sign early.

They only have about $13 million in cap space now. About half will be needed for rookies. It is time to make cuts or trades.

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[quote=Chico23231;1219704]Hey folks…So what’s your effing plan for Free Agency…who’s on your hit list? Are you going Big Splash style….you gonna let the market set itself and pick off good value? You resigning your own? Before you do anything you should probably sort rank biggest needs, look at your roster, and see whose on the market. With the draft coming, what do you attack…what you wait on?
Couple resources:

[url]http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/2019-nfl-free-agents-ranking-top-players-by-position-tracking-signings/i6brxq6i36yd1jdqikshec5gj[/url]

[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/02/19/best-free-agents-lawrence-clowney-foles-landon-collins-leveon-bell[/url]

So first Ill list my areas of need
LG
WR
Pass Rusher
Safety (2)

Lesser needs, but determine if FO keeps/cuts:
Blocking TE (Y)
Slot Corner
RB
ILB
Oline Depth

So I would certainly create some space by cutting Vernon Davis, Z Brown & Stacy McGee. I’m also not resigning Preston or Crowder.

So IMO, I honestly believe there are some outstanding values and based on our “cap crunch” and the fact the team is lame ducking with Jay and possibly (hopefully) Bruce.

LG – So there is not a big splash guy and in the draft 2-4 rounds holds around 6 strong prospects. IMO, we should address the position with a veteran presence…we simply cant wait til the draft. Quinton Spain, James Carpenter, Tom Compton (city of) are good options on short affordable deals providing starting and solid depth. I would certainly draft a Guard this draft as well.

WR – I really don’t like anybody in the group but John Brown had a great year in Baltimore and brings much needed speed. He plays outside and has previous slot experience. I really think he is head and shoulders above everyone else in the free agency group. I would check on initially and then see if after the first wave of signing he remains. I would see if a short term deal would get him here. Brown could be a great asset against Richardson injury and slot WR uncertainty. If Brown isn’t available or too much, I would closely watch Desean Jax status in Tampa to see if he would become available.

Pass Rusher – First, I’m looking at the draft for pass rusher especially in the first 2 rounds. Can we afford to punt it with til the draft with Preston leaving? NOPE. There is a lot of talent here and we have an opportunity for a good value. I’m looking for a speed rush guy…2 I like. The veteran Justin Houston who was a cap casualty and Dante Fowler Jr. With Houston, a short term, incentive deal as a pass rush specialist would help the team. I’m also gonna peak at Fowler Jr with less seriousness, but a prove it deal may work with him. He played well in the playoffs, and a 1 year deal “Preston” insurance would be great.

Safety - Welcome to the biggest market in history of free agency for Safety…guess what, we need 2. Now your big splash item Collins/Honey Badger makes sense…I like both. But Collins in coverage was terrible last year…NFL analyst said he had a 120 passer rater against him in coverage…not good. But I’m gonna list 2 here I really like…FS Tre Boston and SS Kenny Vaccaro. Tre Boston just gets it done and this year he got some notice…He a great coverage Safety who would complement the defense. He should be affordable on a short deal. Vaccaro was awesome in Tennessee last year and will be a cheaper option than Collins/Badger.

Those are my targets…value base guys who could impact the roster at postions of need.

A couple other names I really like….RB Mike Davis out of Seattle to replace AP back up Guice. I would peak at TE Maxx Williams as a Y TE to replace VD…he might be too much, but Id reach out. There are some decent Slot Corner, but I think with other holes id prioritize it less and not spend a lot.

What you got?[/quote]


I like your plan.
I'd prefer them to miss on some needs and have to find them in the draft over them over spending on splashy signings.

I'd get mad if they don't sign a LG though.

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On second thoughts... I'm thinking we have some cap to spend if we make a couple of well talked about moves, and I wouldn't mind making a legit push to sign Tyrann Mathieu. He's 26, we'd be filling a need with an elite playmaker for a long time.

A part from a legit LG, and maybe an edge rusher, what are we going to spend the cap on anyway? I don't see a WR worth spending that much.

#1: LG and Mathieu(/Collins)
#2: Edge rusher

Then hope you can find the rest in the draft, don't try to get something you're not going to get out of this season.