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[QUOTE](from Henry V, spoken by King Henry)
Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; Or close the wall up with our English dead. In peace there's nothing so becomes a man As modest stillness and humility: But when the blast of war blows in our ears, Then imitate the action of the tiger; Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood, Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage;[/QUOTE] while dems play politics (and they are damn good at it) Trump keeps moving forward with wins across the spectrum. It's a shame that they probably won't translate at the ballot box with the dems doing everything they can to get their extreme base in a lather. the latest wins: [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/10/01/winners-losers-usmca-trade-deal/?utm_term=.05bca97f0edb"]USMCA winners and losers-Washington Post[/URL] [URL="https://www.bea.gov/data/gdp/gross-domestic-product"]2nd quarter GDP revised to 4.2[/URL] I still doubt the Republicans can get Kavanaugh past the democratic smear machine and the trio of Flake-Murkowski-Collins, but assuming they do, that would be a huge win also. Shockingly, despite the democratic cries of the world falling apart, SK and NK are moving forward in as fair a dialog as we have seen in decades. Of course there is no guarantee that a lasting peace will be established, but when was the last time we heard Rocketman shooting missiles or threatening war? The media nearly chokes when they have to publish positive stories, but truthfully, the country has had a lot of winning, and it's a shame that the hatred for Trump (love of the progressive agenda) buries much of the positives. |
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I'll even go one step further, but of course will get slammed. The left's hatred of Trump has led to them sacrificing media and hollywood icons over the #metoo movement and his presidency - as morally ambiguous as it is, has actually led to more awareness and more power for victims to come forward and be treated respectfully. Obviously the irony is that most "advocates" would tear my skin off for making this point, but it's clear, from the likes of Weinstein, the CBS CEO, O'Reilly, and the rest of the media power structure that has been long protected by it's position and money, that those barriers are falling as police and investigators are now more than ever empowered to defend the victims.
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This sounds about white.
Congrats on the win! |
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nice race injection. GDP growth, low unemployment, fairer trade agreements, prosecution of powerful men who have abused their position of trust while in power, all of these are good for the whole country regardless of race.
I know it's a liberal brainwash to make it sound like everything must be about race, but the country having a strong economy is simply a good thing, no racial overtures required. |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1201582]nice race injection. GDP growth, low unemployment, fairer trade agreements, prosecution of powerful men who have abused their position of trust while in power, all of these are good for the whole country regardless of race.
I know it's a liberal brainwash to make it sound like everything must be about race, but the country having a strong economy is simply a good thing, no racial overtures required.[/quote] 1st response, invoke race, liberal strategy 101. You don't need any further responses now. Ths already proves any point you're trying to make. It's just a natural response. |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1201578]while dems play politics (and they are damn good at it) Trump keeps moving forward with wins across the spectrum. It's a shame that they probably won't translate at the ballot box with the dems doing everything they can to get their extreme base in a lather.
.[/quote] LOL, coming from the party who was touting "death panels" with Obamacare",your diatribe is amusing .You need to read the link you posted it's a bad deal as much as it is good. |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1201582]nice race injection. GDP growth, low unemployment, fairer trade agreements, prosecution of powerful men who have abused their position of trust while in power, all of these are good for the whole country regardless of race.
I know it's a liberal brainwash to make it sound like everything must be about race, but the country having a strong economy is simply a good thing, no racial overtures required.[/quote] ......and all going on .....under Obama. |
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Giantone is in the political thread, its officially ruined now. I'm off to my cult meeting.
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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1201586]Giantone is in the political thread, its officially ruined now. I'm off to my cult meeting.[/quote]
............ahhh yes, the fuck America cult meetings ,is that where you all pledge allegiance to Putin? |
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Nafta sucked and needed to be updated.
This is a win for US, Mexico and Cananda....no losers. That's what good trade is about. |
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[quote=Chico23231;1201595]Nafta sucked and needed to be updated.
This is a win for US, Mexico and Cananda....no losers. That's what good trade is about.[/quote] LOL, right .Read the article. |
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[quote=Giantone;1201596]LOL, right .Read the article.[/quote]
Oh....China is the big loser for sure. We've done new trade deals with South Korea, Mexico, Canada and the EU...China was hoping the EU was gonna bail them out. Nobody is playing ball with them. G1, this is a good deal for the country and our closest trade partners. You should be happy. Don't be a lil ODB Jr |
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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1201586]Giantone is in the political thread, its officially ruined now. I'm off to my cult meeting.[/quote]
G1 IS the political thread! BTW,it's called a Klan rally and it's being held in Santee this weekend. ;) |
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You deserve a legitimate response instead of my usual sarcasm...
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1201582]nice race injection. GDP growth, low unemployment, fairer trade agreements, prosecution of powerful men who have abused their position of trust while in power, all of these are good for the whole country regardless of race. [/quote] You can choose to remember what you want but your own party has accused Trump of race baiting. Let's be honest, he wouldn't have won the election if he hadn't. There are others following his lead and that is really what is a shame. You want to talk about GDP Growth and Trade Agreements, Great! Unfortunately guys like DeSantis are sounding the "Racism Dog Whistle"(this is a thing now I guess) to get elected and he probably will. I sit here impatiently waiting to for normal citizens who are Republicans to stand up to their own bullshit. Aren't you tired of getting grouped with these bigots? [quote=CRedskinsRule;1201582] I know it's a liberal brainwash to make it sound like everything must be about race, but the country having a strong economy is simply a good thing, no racial overtures required.[/quote] For a strong economy to be a good thing, it has to be available to all Americans not just wealthy white males. |
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[quote=jamf;1201599]You deserve a legitimate response instead of my usual sarcasm...
You can choose to remember what you want but your own party has accused Trump of race baiting. Let's be honest, he wouldn't have won the election if he hadn't. There are others following his lead and that is really what is a shame. You want to talk about GDP Growth and Trade Agreements, Great! Unfortunately guys like DeSantis are sounding the "Racism Dog Whistle"(this is a thing now I guess) to get elected and he probably will. I sit here impatiently waiting to for normal citizens who are Republicans to stand up to their own bullshit. Aren't you tired of getting grouped with these bigots? ... For a strong economy to be a good thing, it has to be available to all Americans not just wealthy white males.[/quote] First - solidly low unemployment numbers across the spectrum of race and class does seem to show that it is available to all Americans. Second, {tl;dr - don't believe the lie of the narrative that conservatives hates blacks, it's just not true.} And this may be an unpopular statement, but it is my belief. No group, as a whole, has been more lock step with the democratic party than African Americans, and yet they suffer the most from poverty, family separations, violence against their men. The democratic party portrays a false narrative of republicans as bigots, and haters, when the Klan was filled good ole democrats. They lie and decieve young african americans, and in turn keep them needing government handouts. You believe what you believe, but I know the vast majority of conservatives and libertarians aren't rascists. [quote]Median household income in the United States in 2017, by race or ethnic group (in U.S. dollars) Median income in U.S. dollars Asian 81,331 Caucasian (White not Hispanic) 68,145 Hispanic (of any race) 50,486 Black 40,258 • Median household income by race or ethnic group 2017 | Statistic [url]https://www.statista.com/statistics/233324/median-household-income-in-the-united-states-by-race-or-ethnic-group/[/url][/quote] according to Pew: [url]http://www.people-press.org/2018/03/20/1-trends-in-party-affiliation-among-demographic-groups/2_3-14/[/url] [quote]Whites are 51/43 rep/dem Hispanics are 63/28 rep/dem (this pol is mar 2018) Blacks are 84/8 rep/dem [/quote] And yet the urban centers that the democrats control are havens for violence, poverty, and family breakups. Kanye West actually [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/30/arts/music/kanye-west-donald-trump-snl.html"]took a lead on this [/URL]over the weekend: [quote]... In footage from the crowd posted to the comedian Chris Rock’s Instagram account, Mr. West can be seen musing on his support of President Trump and urging, “We need to have a dialogue and not a diatribe.” Mr. West, who is known for delivering similarly improvised addresses during his concerts, said he is often asked how he can support President Trump because “he’s racist.” “If I was concerned about racism,” Mr. West said, “I would’ve moved out of America a long time ago.” He said Democrats were responsible for a plan to take “fathers out the home and promote welfare.” The rapper also mentioned his long-teased presidential aspirations for 2020 and referred to the “one-sided” liberal nature of the entertainment world as the “S.N.L.” cast stood stoically behind him.[/quote] from Wikipedia: (tally 16 democratic politicians, 3 republican 1 bipartisan racist) [quote]Contents 1 Politicians who were active in the Klan at some time 1.1 Robert Byrd - Democrat forever 1.2 Edward Douglass White --Democrat 1.3 Hugo Black -- Democrat 1.4 Theodore G. Bilbo -- Democrat 1.5 John Brown Gordon -- Democrat 1.6 Joseph E. Brown-- Democrat 1.7 Elmer David Davies -- Democrat AND a Federal Judge 1.8 Edward L. Jackson --Republican 1.9 Rice W. Means -- Republican 1.10 Clarence Morley -- Republican 1.11 Bibb Graves --Democrat 1.12 Clifford Walker -- Democrat 1.13 George Gordon --Democrat 1.14 John Tyler Morgan --Democrat 1.15 Edmund Pettus --Democrat 1.16 John W. Morton --Democrat 1.17 William L. Saunders --Democrat 1.18 John Clinton Porter --Democrat 1.19 Benjamin F. Stapleton --Democrat 1.20 David Duke-- Ran as both dem and rep but notably as a Republican[/quote] Democrats have parlayed the handout state into a means as keeping African Americans tied to their strings. Clarence Thomas said it well, as the democrats in the Senate acted like the real KKK [quote]And from my standpoint as a black American, as far as I'm concerned, it is a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas, and it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the U.S. -- U.S. Senate, rather than hung from a tree. [/quote] |
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[quote=jamf;1201598]G1 IS the political thread!
BTW,it's called a Klan rally and it's being held in Santee this weekend. ;)[/quote] Sweet, I haven't got out that far east in a minute. Heard Santee is beautiful this time of year. |
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lol Kanye is a fucking jackass
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Is it possible that most Republicans aren't racist, yet most racists are Republican?
I say this knowing there's no way to quantify how many Republicans are racist. |
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[quote=MTK;1201603]lol Kanye is a fucking jackass[/quote]
I’m really surprised people haven’t picked up on what Kanye doing. But folks are eating it up. |
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Kanye West actually [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/30/arts/music/kanye-west-donald-trump-snl.html"]took a lead on this [/URL]over the weekend: [/quote] You blow wind for twenty fucking mins and then have the nerve to quote Kanye West??? .............yet you want to be taken seriously? People wonder why I use the word cult well Creds "diatribe" post is a great example of why. |
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[quote=Chico23231;1201607]I’m really surprised people haven’t picked up on what Kanye doing. But folks are eating it up.[/quote]
Oh please enlighten us ?:blah: |
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[quote=Giantone;1201609]Oh please enlighten us ?:blah:[/quote]
People are taking what he says seriously and he’s getting off. All these idiot liberals on Facebook, Twitter are just up in arms with their faux outrage...they are just jerking off kanye ego. They really this dumb? They don’t see this? |
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[QUOTE=Giantone;1201608]You blow wind for twenty fucking mins and then have the nerve to quote Kanye West???
.............yet you want to be taken seriously? People wonder why I use the word cult well Creds "diatribe" post is a great example of why.[/QUOTE]Predictably your comment adds 0 to the discussion and strives to be the best troll you can be |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1201611]Predictably your comment adds 0 to the discussion and strives to be the best troll you can be[/quote]
Coming from someone that quoted Kanye West ,I relish that monicker. |
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I don't want to discuss Kanye West's political views.
I realize media personalities aren't the best political sources, but I also think Peter King made a good point in his MMQB article this week: [quote=Peter King] c. But what bothered me more than anything was this realization: The people who sat in majority control of this hearing, the 11 Republicans on the Judiciary Committee, are, in order: white male, white male, white male, white male, white male, white male, white male, white male, white male, white male, white male. Their ages: 85, 84, 67, 66, 66, 63, 58, 55, 47, 47, 46. Think about that. Eleven white males, average age 62.2, sitting in judgment of a 53-year-old white male from the upper crust of society. There is a dispute, a she-said, he-said dispute. She is eminently believable. He is adamant about his innocence. Certainly it’s going to be impossible to know with certainty what happened. But why is it in the United States of America in 2018—with a population of 327 million (median age 37.8 years old), of which 165 million are women—that the ultimate jury in this case is so non-representative of what this country really is right now? We are 50.8 percent women, and there are no women on the Republican side of the Judiciary Committee. We are 39 percent non-white, and there are no non-white Republicans on the committee. Incredible to me that in this day and time, the political process is stuck in 1969. [/quote] |
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[quote=mooby;1201626]I don't want to discuss Kanye West's political views.
I realize media personalities aren't the best political sources, but I also think Peter King made a good point in his MMQB article this week:[/quote] another coded "GOP is racist" jab, huh? |
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back to the winning,
[URL="https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/schumer-trump-deserves-praise-for-work-to-fix-mexico-canada-trade-deal"]Schumer: Trump 'deserves praise' for work to fix Mexico, Canada trade deal[/URL] Amazon is raising it's minimum wage to $15 - with no governmental regulations required. On the economy President Trump's approval rating is above 50% across [URL="https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval_economy-6182.html"]the spectrum of polls[/URL] notably Reuters has it as 51% approve 40% disapprove for the week of 9-19 to 9-25. And I would think that would rise after the USMCA trade agreement news. |
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[quote=Chico23231;1201628]another coded "GOP is racist" jab, huh?[/quote]
No, not really. In as long a time as we've talked on this board, have you known me to be someone who dances around what I want to say? I thought Peter King made a good point, wanted to share it. Nothing more, nothing less. |
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[URL="https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/schumer-trump-deserves-praise-for-work-to-fix-mexico-canada-trade-deal"]Schumer: Trump 'deserves praise' for work to fix Mexico, Canada trade deal[/URL] [B]Amazon is raising it's minimum wage to $15 - with no governmental regulations required. [/B] On the economy President Trump's approval rating is above 50% across [URL="https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval_economy-6182.html"]the spectrum of polls[/URL] notably Reuters has it as 51% approve 40% disapprove for the week of 9-19 to 9-25. And I would think that would rise after the USMCA trade agreement news.[/quote] Does this have more to do with the optics of Bezos earning millions a day while his workers piss in bottles, or is it because of some selfless act of gov't that allows Amazon to be so generous? |
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[quote=mooby;1201626]I don't want to discuss Kanye West's political views.
I realize media personalities aren't the best political sources, but I also think Peter King made a good point in his MMQB article this week:[/quote] I agree with this IF you take partisanship out of it. Fact is there should be term limits across the spectrum. If anyone can explain to me how Sen McCain, with all due respect to his service through out his life, was still an active senator when he wasn't able to physically attend Senate for a year. There should be term limits and age limits for Congress, the President, and SC. You can make it 18 year limit for Senators/Representatives, and 82 for all positions of government. This is incredible:[url]https://www.quorum.us/data-driven-insights/the-115th-congress-is-among-the-oldest-in-history/175/[/url] [quote]Today the average American is 20 years younger than their representative in Congress. This should come as no surprise, considering that over the past 30 years the average age of a Member of Congress has increased with almost every new Congress. In 1981, the average age of a Representative was 49 and the average of a Senator was 53. Today, the average age of a Representative is 57 and the average of a Senator is 61. This prompted us to take a further look at those graying averages.[/quote] [IMG]https://quorum-media.s3.amazonaws.com/media/django-summernote/2018-08-15/bbb6ff0d-9f8f-44dc-a224-9df9529eb68c.jpeg[/IMG] [quote]More than half of the Senators up for reelection in 2018 will be over the age of 65. 18 of the 33 Senators running for reelection in 2018 will be 65 or older. If they win, another six years in office would put Senators Feinstein, Hatch, Nelson, and Sanders well into their 80s. Looking ahead at the 2020 elections, 21 of the 33 Senators running for reelection will be 65 or older. The current chamber is already one of the oldest Senates by some measures according to the Washington Post, and the data suggests this trend would continue in the coming years.[/quote] |
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[quote=mooby;1201631]No, not really. In as long a time as we've talked on this board, have you known me to be someone who dances around what I want to say?
I thought Peter King made a good point, wanted to share it. Nothing more, nothing less.[/quote] No certainly Peter King was though. But really, lets just stereotype all GOP racist and then mentally discriminate together. |
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[quote=mooby;1201632]Does this have more to do with the optics of Bezos earning millions a day while his workers piss in bottles, or is it because of some selfless act of gov't that allows Amazon to be so generous?[/quote]
It's likely optics. |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1201633]I agree with this IF you take partisanship out of it.
Fact is there should be term limits across the spectrum. If anyone can explain to me how Sen McCain, with all due respect to his service through out his life, was still an active senator when he wasn't able to physically attend Senate for a year. There should be term limits and age limits for Congress, the President, and SC. You can make it 18 year limit for Senators/Representatives, and 82 for all positions of government. This is incredible:[url]https://www.quorum.us/data-driven-insights/the-115th-congress-is-among-the-oldest-in-history/175/[/url] [IMG]https://quorum-media.s3.amazonaws.com/media/django-summernote/2018-08-15/bbb6ff0d-9f8f-44dc-a224-9df9529eb68c.jpeg[/IMG][/quote] [url]https://www.quorum.us/data-driven-insights/term-limits-in-congress/267/[/url] [quote]46 of the 100 Senators will have served two or more terms at the conclusion of the 115th Congress. There are currently 32 senators who've already served more than two terms in office and an additional 14 senators who will complete their second term at the end of this Congress. Of the 46 senators, 23 are Democrats, 22 are Republicans, and one is an Independent.[/quote] |
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[quote=mooby;1201632]Does this have more to do with the optics of Bezos earning millions a day while his workers piss in bottles, or is it because of some selfless act of gov't that allows Amazon to be so generous?[/quote]
The irony is this...if the government mandated it, you would love it. Since corporate America is doing it...its criticized. This is serious competition component to the 15 raise....but lets not talk about it. Wages are rising and there have been articles about the holiday job hiring frenzy where higher pay this season was gonna be an issue for demand of those jobs. Warren Buffet knows what he is talking about and often the liberals will highlight he opinions. But its funny when the bias media doesn't push one of his strong view points on the economy: [url]http://fortune.com/2015/05/22/warren-buffett-minimum-wage/[/url] |
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To any democrats/liberals in this thread, what are like the top 3-5 policies/ideals/laws/etc. that are the most important to you? I mean this seriously. I think we live in such an us vs. them/take no prisoners world that actual helpful discussions are harder and harder to have. I'd imagine we all have a lot more in common than not, just have different ideas of how to achieve them.
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If you are over 70 and still hogging a spot in congress you are a selfish narcissist that thinks you're so important than there is no way we could survive without you. Congress is not supposed to be a lifetime job. You can only be president twice for 8 years, no reason you should be allowed to be a senator more than 2 terms for 12 years or a house member for 6 terms of 2 years. Its absurd how rich all these fuckers get at our expense.
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1201633]I agree with this IF you take partisanship out of it.
Fact is there should be term limits across the spectrum. If anyone can explain to me how Sen McCain, with all due respect to his service through out his life, was still an active senator when he wasn't able to physically attend Senate for a year. There should be term limits and age limits for Congress, the President, and SC. You can make it 18 year limit for Senators/Representatives, and 82 for all positions of government. This is incredible:[URL]https://www.quorum.us/data-driven-insights/the-115th-congress-is-among-the-oldest-in-history/175/[/URL] [/quote] We've already had this discussion Cred. I agree there should be term limits in politics. |
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[quote=Chico23231;1201637]The irony is this...if the government mandated it, you would love it. Since corporate America is doing it...its criticized.
This is serious competition component to the 15 raise....but lets not talk about it. Wages are rising and there have been articles about the holiday job hiring frenzy where higher pay this season was gonna be an issue for demand of those jobs. Warren Buffet knows what he is talking about and often the liberals will highlight he opinions. But its funny when the bias media doesn't push one of his strong view points on the economy: [URL]http://fortune.com/2015/05/22/warren-buffett-minimum-wage/[/URL][/quote] Someone might be criticizing it, but it ain't me. I worked retail for 2 years coming out of high school, have nothing but sympathy for those Amazon workers that literally don't even get time to take a bathroom break. Bezos has had a lot of criticism coming his way for how much he's earning an hour while his workers need food stamps, this is a good step in the right direction. Yearly cost-of-living raises for his workers would look good too. |
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[quote=mooby;1201650]We've already had this discussion Cred. I agree there should be term limits in politics.[/quote]
lol, I don't remember. I wonder if the states could get enough votes to pass a constitutional amendment. I would think all the state politicians would love the chance to run for federal office as the term limits kicked in. I bet it would be grandfathered(literally) though, so we really wouldn't see the change for a decade at least. |
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Shockingly, despite the democratic cries of the world falling apart, SK and NK are moving forward in as fair a dialog as we have seen in decades. Of course there is no guarantee that a lasting peace will be established, but when was the last time we heard Rocketman shooting missiles or threatening war? [/quote] Speaking of North Korea and trumps failure there.......... [url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-korea-tells-us-not-094527676.html[/url] World North Korea tells US it will not denuclearise in return for peace treaty North Korea has ruled out dismantling its nuclear arsenal in exchange for the US declaring an end to the Korean War, saying on Tuesday that a peace treaty should "never be a bargaining chip." The North has for decades demanded that the US formally declare the end of the 1950-53 conflict that was halted only with an armistice, saying an official end to the war would ease tensions on the flashpoint peninsula. |
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