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ESPN Redskins reporter John Keim reports the team will try to re-sign impending free agent WR Ryan Grant.

Per Keim, the team likes the 27-year-old wideout "a lot." It's hardly a surprise, as[B] Grant has been a teacher's pet-type under coach Jay Gruden[/B]. Consistently utilized as the No. 3 in 2017, Grant is best served as a No. 4. Keim reports the team wants to add a burner opposite Josh Doctson.

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Grant is fine as a backup.

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Grant is a good WR, He makes tough catches all the time. We def need a burner

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[quote=MTK;1185480]Grant is fine as a backup.[/quote]

just don't give him starter's money...give him a Dunbar at the most.

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A guy we need to bring in for a cheap deal is Bryce Butler, he can stretch the field and is a good possession guy. To replace Pryor. Obviously I'd love Landry but he'll cost too much.

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[quote=MTK;1185480]Grant is fine as a backup.[/quote]

Yeah you nailed it. We never came close to replacing DeSean in our lineup. It wiped out a lot of our playbook.

Thompson and the line stepped up to sort of replace it in a way with the screen game. But what a dynamite offense we'd be if we got Thompson back healthy and had a reliable burner who could stretch the defense. Get Reed healthy in the middle of the field and then we've really got something.

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[quote=MTK;1185480]Grant is fine as a backup.[/quote]
I don't think so.
Backup WR's need to contribute on specials teams, Grant does not.
We need to fix ST by adding talent to our backup skill positions.

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There are a few much more important tasks than signing Grant. Obviously KC. And a starting WR, C or G, FS and more. They should have plenty of money to sign free agents.

Lets start with FS Tre Boston, WR Paul Richardson and G Andrew Norwell. Norwell will be expensive, however he could be a great investment.

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What does it say about your receivers when Ryan Grant is your leading receiver?

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[quote=Irrefutable;1185489]There are a few much more important tasks than signing Grant. Obviously KC. And a starting WR, C or G, FS and more. They should have plenty of money to sign free agents.

Lets start with FS Tre Boston, WR Paul Richardson and G Andrew Norwell. Norwell will be expensive, however he could be a great investment.[/quote]

I really like the the Richardson and Norwell ideas. May i also throw a guy like ILB Avery Williamson to the mix

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[quote=doughtydoubter;1185522]I really like the the Richardson and Norwell ideas. May i also throw a guy like [B]ILB Avery Williamson [/B]to the mix[/quote]

He's great, but I seriously doubt Titans will let him get away and he's gonna get a big contract.

But we lucked out with Zach Brown...maybe a chance though. He's probably the best ILB on the market.


When it comes to WR, Id stay away from Richardson and wait out for a more proven player like Crabtree or D Thomas (Broncos) who could be cap casualties.

Norwell would be a decent to get, but I think you see a lot of talent for interior Olineman in the mid rounds this year.

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[QUOTE=jamf;1185488]I don't think so.

Backup WR's need to contribute on specials teams, Grant does not.

We need to fix ST by adding talent to our backup skill positions.[/QUOTE]


Not all backups need to play teams. If you’re a #5 or #6 yeah it definitely helps your cause a lot.

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I really hope we address Kickoff and Punt Returner in Free agency or draft. We need more impact here and less fumbling

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Right. You could easily say Crowder lost 1-2 games all by himself.

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[quote=Chico23231;1185523]

When it comes to WR, Id stay away from Richardson and wait out for a more proven player like [B]Crabtree or D Thomas [/B](Broncos) who could be cap casualties.

Norwell would be a decent to get, but I think you see a lot of talent for interior Olineman in the mid rounds this year.[/quote]

IF we could get Crabtree or Thomas i would dance a happy tune. I believe a good veteran WR that has some talent is going to help our soon to be drafted Rookie QB immensely. Although- i would still steadily try to keep drafting WRS.
i think there are other interior linemen out there that would be cheaper. I still think Long could be in the mix. Move him back to guard.

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I'd take any WR at this point.. They are all upgrades

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1185547]I'd take any WR at this point.. They are all upgrades[/quote]

Terrell Pryor and Andre Roberts' agents would like you to give them a call.

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[quote=doughtydoubter;1185545]IF we could get Crabtree or Thomas i would dance a happy tune. I believe a good veteran WR that has some talent is going to help our soon to be drafted Rookie QB immensely. Although- i would still steadily try to keep drafting WRS.
i think there are other interior linemen out there that would be cheaper. I still think Long could be in the mix. Move him back to guard.[/quote]

This is what I would like to see in 2018:

Williams--Long--Roullier--Scherff--Moses

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[quote=calia;1185555]This is what I would like to see in 2018:

Williams--Long--Roullier--Scherff--Moses[/quote]

Me too, but Long replaced with rookie/FA.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1185561]Me too, but Long replaced with rookie/FA.[/quote]

Long's natural position is at G. I think he'd be solid there, and a definite upgrade from Luavo. I'd rather go after other positions in FA (WR, FS, ILB, NT come to mind).

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[quote=calia;1185562]Long's natural position is at G. I think he'd be solid there, and a definite upgrade from Luavo. I'd rather go after other positions in FA (WR, FS, ILB, NT come to mind).[/quote]

Yeah he's better thab Luavo but I might be too lol. I'd be ok with Long but we can upgrade with a draft pick or FA (I'd prefer a middle pick or Q. Nelson whenever we could get him).

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1185563]Yeah he's better thab Luavo but I might be too lol. I'd be ok with Long but we can upgrade with a draft pick or FA (I'd prefer a middle pick or Q. Nelson whenever we could get him).[/quote]

Don't get me wrong -- not averse to picking up a G. I just think Long knows the offense, seems to click with our O-linemen, and at his natural position would enable us to focus on FAs where the need is greater than G.

I really hope we re-sign Zach Brown, or we really have major ILB needs. Foster is good against the run, but doesn't seem like a QB for the D. Compton seems an able QB on D, but his physical skills don't render him a good starter (and he's a FA anyway). Spaight is a work in progress. I keep wondering whether with Kerrigan and Smith locks at OLB whether there's any thought about Ryan Anderson moving inside (I realize they're different positions, but I wouldn't think his physical skills would be unsuited to ILB).

FS is a real need; Swearinger should be a SS. Nicholson certainly flashed, I am not sure he's quite ready for the full time role, and his rookie season had a number of injuries.

And our WR situation is not good -- I think Doctson does take the next step in 2018, but we need someone else (a burner, if possible) on the outside. I like Grant as a solid possession receiver. Would like to see what Mo Harris can do with an expanded role (that catch against the Vikes was sick). And I am very intrigued by Robert Davis' size -- would be great to see him step up and command some playing time. But I think our #2 WR for 2018 isn't on the roster yet.

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[quote=calia;1185564]Don't get me wrong -- not averse to picking up a G. I just think Long knows the offense, seems to click with our O-linemen, and at his natural position would enable us to focus on FAs where the need is greater than G.

I really hope we re-sign Zach Brown, or we really have major ILB needs. Foster is good against the run, but doesn't seem like a QB for the D. Compton seems an able QB on D, but his physical skills don't render him a good starter (and he's a FA anyway). Spaight is a work in progress. I keep wondering whether with Kerrigan and Smith locks at OLB whether there's any thought about Ryan Anderson moving inside (I realize they're different positions, but I wouldn't think his physical skills would be unsuited to ILB).

FS is a real need; Swearinger should be a SS. Nicholson certainly flashed, I am not sure he's quite ready for the full time role, and his rookie season had a number of injuries.

And our WR situation is not good -- I think Doctson does take the next step in 2018, but we need someone else (a burner, if possible) on the outside. I like Grant as a solid possession receiver. Would like to see what Mo Harris can do with an expanded role (that catch against the Vikes was sick). And I am very intrigued by Robert Davis' size -- would be great to see him step up and command some playing time. But I think our #2 WR for 2018 isn't on the roster yet.[/quote]

My dream is Roquan Smith and Brown feasting sideline to sideline. I'd franchise tag Brown if we can't get long-term deal.

I agree regarding FS and WR.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1185565][B]My dream is Roquan Smith and Brown feasting sideline to sideline[/B]. I'd franchise tag Brown if we can't get long-term deal.

I agree regarding FS and WR.[/quote]

Now THAT would be something. Feel free to go over the middle, folks. You'll do that once.

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[quote=calia;1185564]Don't get me wrong -- not averse to picking up a G. I just think Long knows the offense, seems to click with our O-linemen, and at his natural position would enable us to focus on FAs where the need is greater than G. [B][/B]

FS is a real need; Swearinger should be a SS. Nicholson certainly flashed, I am not sure he's quite ready for the full time role, and his rookie season had a number of injuries.

And our WR situation is not good -- I think Doctson does take the next step in 2018, but we need someone else (a burner, if possible) on the outside. I like Grant as a solid possession receiver. Would like to see what Mo Harris can do with an expanded role (that catch against the Vikes was sick). And I am very intrigued by Robert Davis' size -- would be great to see him step up and command some playing time. [B][COLOR="Red"][/COLOR][/B]But I think our #2 WR for 2018 isn't on the roster yet.[/quote]


So, do you think Doctson will be WR #1 ? I doubt it.

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Doctson certainly has the skills to be a true #1. Way too early to dismiss him.

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[quote=MTK;1185568]Doctson certainly has the skills to be a true #1. Way too early to dismiss him.[/quote]

For whatever reason, I still think he's going to be a pro bowl caliber or better player. Hope I'm right. Its his 3rd year, usually when a lot of WRs start "getting it".

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[quote=MTK;1185568]Doctson certainly has the skills to be a true #1. Way too early to dismiss him.[/quote]

Doctson is the #77 ranked WR..... he has a long way to go to be a true #1 WR He caught less than 50% of his targeted throws. I hope he develops, but he is a big ?




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[quote=MTK;1185568]Doctson certainly has the skills to be a true #1. Way too early to dismiss him.[/quote]

He's a possession guy that drops the ball too much... not a good combo but we will see

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[quote=calia;1185564]Don't get me wrong -- not averse to picking up a G. I just think Long knows the offense, seems to click with our O-linemen, and at his natural position would enable us to focus on FAs where the need is greater than G.

I really hope we re-sign Zach Brown, or we really have major ILB needs. Foster is good against the run, but doesn't seem like a QB for the D. Compton seems an able QB on D, but his physical skills don't render him a good starter (and he's a FA anyway). Spaight is a work in progress. I keep wondering whether with Kerrigan and Smith locks at OLB whether there's any thought about Ryan Anderson moving inside (I realize they're different positions, but I wouldn't think his physical skills would be unsuited to ILB).

FS is a real need; Swearinger should be a SS. Nicholson certainly flashed, I am not sure he's quite ready for the full time role, and his rookie season had a number of injuries.

And our WR situation is not good -- I think Doctson does take the next step in 2018, but we need someone else (a burner, if possible) on the outside. I like Grant as a solid possession receiver. Would like to see what Mo Harris can do with an expanded role (that catch against the Vikes was sick). And I am very intrigued by Robert Davis' size -- would be great to see him step up and command some playing time. But I think our #2 WR for 2018 isn't on the roster yet.[/quote]

I would love to see Ryan Anderson move inside in a 4-3, picture this front 7 (/ = rotates with):

Smith/Galette/Murphy - Allen - Ioannidis/Lanier - Kerrigan

Ryan Anderson - Mason Foster - Zach Brown

Upgrade one or two spots with the FAs/draft picks of your choice and tell me you don't like this D !

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1185571]He's a possession guy that drops the ball too much... not a good combo but we will see[/quote]

All our receiving corps seemed to have a drop issue this season, so we can still hope Doctson'll step it up (fireourwrcoachfireourwrcoachfireourwrcoachfireourwrcoachfireourwrcoach)

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1185547]I'd take any WR at this point.. They are all upgrades[/quote]

I will trade you, the receivers that the Skins finish the season with an trade you for the receivers the Giants finish the season with ...even up trade(not the TE)

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[quote=Giantone;1185574]I will trade you, the receivers that the Skins finish the season with an trade you for the receivers the Giants finish the season with ...even up trade(not the TE)[/quote]

No because the WRs we finished the season with are basically the ones we started with minus Pryor

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Doctson is essentially coming off his rookie year.

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I hope the skins sign Josh Gordon and trade kirk to the Broncos for their 1st round pick. By having the 5th and 13th pick the skins pick, The skins have their choice of bluechip QB's that hasn't been selected whether its Mayfield, Allen, Rosen, Darnold, or Jackson. Redskins trade down from 13 and take Guice while adding some extra picks.

With the money saved by not paying Cousins, the Skins sign Demarcus Lawrence, Poe or Star Lotulelei to solidify the D-Line and Andrew Norrell to play left guard.

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Dallas isn't going to let Demarcus Lawrence go.

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Have we fired Bruce Allen yet? Has Danny Boy sold the team? Unless those things happen it doesn’t matter who we get. Sorry to be Debbie Downer but there is not a single person walking around Redskins Park that understands how to build a sustainable, winning team. Not one. On top of that Gruden is a hack.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1185754]Have we fired Bruce Allen yet? Has Danny Boy sold the team? Unless those things happen it doesn’t matter who we get. Sorry to be Debbie Downer but there is not a single person walking around Redskins Park that understands how to build a sustainable, winning team. Not one. On top of that Gruden is a hack.[/QUOTE]Still time. For BA to leave. I doubt he does though

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Whatever we do I just hope we don't draft Jackson or Mayfield. Jackson's first instinct is to run and that's hard to coach out of him. Mayfield is too much of a risk, plays in a conference with weak defenses and throws to wide open wr's all the time. We're not getting Darnold or Rosen. The guy from Wyoming looks like Osweiler.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1185763]Whatever we do I just hope we don't draft Jackson or Mayfield. Jackson's first instinct is to run and that's hard to coach out of him. Mayfield is too much of a risk, plays in a conference with weak defenses and throws to wide open wr's all the time. We're not getting Darnold or Rosen. The guy from Wyoming looks like Osweiler.[/quote]

It's a crapshoot, nobody thought Wentz would be that good or that Goff would turn it around after last yr.. All said Luck was the next Elway and now look..