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skinsfaninok 10-11-2015 07:11 PM

Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
Well very tough game today and it hurt to lose that way but let's look at some good and bad.

Good= defense (outstanding all day regarding points and turnovers)

Oline was solid once again.

Kirk was awesome in the 4th Qtr.

Crowder showing he's legit.

Negative= run defense was bad today real bad.

Bad miss on the FG. Came back to hurt us.

Kc OT int was just bad and he's got to change that inconsistent play.

Garçon sucked today.

Run game was bad for the first time

Reed and Djax need to play next week.

SFREDSKIN 10-11-2015 07:34 PM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
[B]Good:[/B]
Cousins
Crowder
Carrier
Breeland (he's the best CB on the team)
Young CB's
Kerrigan
OL

[B]Bad:[/B]
Cousins bad pass at the end (even with Grant falling it was wide)
Garcon (many dropped balls)
D not adjusting to stopping Freeman running to the left
Soft prevent D on final regulation drive
No running game
Penalties
Officials

sdskinsfan2001 10-11-2015 07:56 PM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
Garcon is catching a lot of heat. Every ball he didn't catch was a shitty pass by Cousins. He fired high a couple times and way behind him on the interception.

If you touch it you should catch it is so false.

Cousins is just not very accurate a lot of the times. There were at least 5 open receivers he missed with bad passes. Including the game ender. That was wide by like 2 yards.

The thing that makes me nervous is accuracy is not necessarily a fixable thing at this point.

He might just not be a very accurate passer.

DynamiteRave 10-11-2015 07:57 PM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
[B]Good[/B]:
Defense played pretty well, considering the opponent.
Breeland showed up.
Crowder is amazeballs, as is Thompson.
We finally have a kicker. I don't blame Hopkins for that long miss, he had the leg, just pushed it a little bit too much. Plus that was like what, a 52 yard kick or something?

[B]Bad:[/B]
No running game, whatsoever hurts. As much as I dig Alfmo, I think even Thompson is outplaying him at this point.
Garcon is inconsistent at best.
Grant fell down on the route. How are you falling? You aren't even playing on real grass.
Ross still isn't above Grant on the depth chart. :Smoker:

Chico23231 10-11-2015 08:18 PM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
I was watching ESPN game cast here in Connecticut cause we didn't get it...tough to see the line for int for td game over come up as previous play.

Gotta say, I see progress. With take them to ot, but always in the back of my mind it's like what if?

sdskinsfan2001 10-11-2015 08:46 PM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
We are clearly a better team than last year. We went from a bottom 5 team to somewhere around the 20 range. And we could have won vs Miami and Atlanta. But that's why we aren't there yet. Just keep improving.I feel like if we have another good draft and pick up a couple free agents this offseason we are legitimately fighting for a playoff spot next year. That's a positive.

DYoungJelly 10-11-2015 08:59 PM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1125142]
Negative= run defense was bad today real bad.

Garçon sucked today. [/quote]

I think we played a lot of nickle.

The passes on Garcon's drops were way off target. I agree with the other posters' observations.

Stacks42 10-11-2015 09:01 PM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
Positives:
-The secondary, great effort with so many starters out
-The D line pressuring with only 4 down lineman

Negatives:
-D against the zone running scheme, haven't these guys seen this in practice for years?
-Lack of blitz on the Falcons last drive, dial up something special when the game is on the line.
2-3 Redskins 2015 :( I didn't have much hope for 2015, everytime I get my hopes up.... heartbroken.

skinsfaninok 10-11-2015 09:03 PM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
Garçon had that td yes it was a bit high but he had 2 hands on it. I love the guy but still has to make those plays to beat atlanta.

BaltimoreSkins 10-11-2015 09:08 PM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
It is interesting I didn't get to watch the game only listened to it so I don't have a visual opinion on Garcon's drops, but Cooley on the color said that Garcon should've had those balls, he also question Garcon during the first interception. Being a former TE with shall we say less than elite QBs he might have higher standards for receivers than he does QBs.

Chief X_Phackter 10-11-2015 09:18 PM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
Kirk wasn't perfect today...he will probably be the first one to say that...but there were some balls that weren't thrown "perfectly" that probably should have been caught. Yes, if you get two hands on the ball at this level, you should catch it = TRUE!

Yeah, kicker missed a 53 yarder, but lots of kickers do that. Can't put the game on him...if he didn't hit the one at the end of the 4th qtr, there was no OT and no chance anyway...

Two INTs by Kirk, but in my opinion neither one of them were his fault, but I'm sure the talk will be Kirk just can't stop turning the ball over...already heard Aikman saying that, like he never threw INTs his first year as the starter...

Bottom line for me, this team is a lot better than anyone thought they would be, and a little better than their record reflects. They could be 4-1 but they are not. However, the are definitely in the mix in the NFC East. So all is well.

Skinzman 10-11-2015 09:19 PM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
The main positive was the defense. Got some turnovers and overall did a really good job. The offense was pretty bad. I still expected a much worse loss.

I never expected anything better than an 8 - 8 season, and figured 3 or 4 wins was possible. So the way they have played this year is as good or better than I had expected. Other positives is that some young guys are stepping up. Not only this years draft but Breeland and Moses from last years. Crowder is looking like a steal so far.

sdskinsfan2001 10-11-2015 09:44 PM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
Note to nfl receivers, if the Qb throws a shitty pass don't attempt to catch it because if you touch the ball it is now your fault you didn't catch it.

Chief X_Phackter 10-11-2015 09:55 PM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1125179]Note to nfl receivers, if the Qb throws a shitty pass don't attempt to catch it because if you touch the ball it is now your fault you didn't catch it.[/quote]

C'MON MAN!

There's a big difference between a "shitty" pass and a pass that is a little under/over thrown. I have no problem taking the position that if the receiver gets two hands on the ball, they should haul it in. Pretty sure every NFL receiver would tell you the same thing.

Note to NFL Quarterbacks, if the receiver looks like he's open, don't throw the ball, because if you do and the receiver falls down, it is now your fault you threw an interception.

See how dumb that sounds?

skinsfaninok 10-11-2015 10:01 PM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
Skins are now 0-3 when cousins has an int in a game this yr. 2-0 when he doesn't

Coff 10-11-2015 10:03 PM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
Good
Skins played a much cleaner game; only five penalties. That's a huge improvement.
Kerrigan returning to form.
Secondary played better than any of us expected going into the game.

Bad
Defense on third and fourth down conversions in the second half. Couldn't come up with a big stop.
Cousins and receivers just not on the same page (I don't care to point fingers; both need to work to improve their chemistry)
2 of the last 3 games our running game has not been effective

punch it in 10-11-2015 10:04 PM

Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
Good: we are finally playing football like a real team, and we are going to get our biggest weapon on offense back and win the effin division.

Bad: I thought about this while I was posting my comment above. Purely coincidental that it was a pick six in OT, it was more the failed prediction made with such conviction i was thinking about.

[url]http://youtu.be/vAgG9XcrDFY[/url]

Chief X_Phackter 10-11-2015 10:15 PM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1125182]Skins are now 0-3 when cousins has an int in a game this yr. 2-0 when he doesn't[/quote]

Can't argue with that stat. Being on the negative side of the turnover stat generally translates into more losses than wins...However, you say that as if all the INTs are Kirk's fault. Yes, they are on his stat line, but at least three of the six INTs this season (to me) were not bad decisions or bad throws...tips, bad routes, receivers falling down...all contribute to INTs....

skinsfaninok 10-11-2015 10:16 PM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
No not all on kirk

Hijinx 10-12-2015 12:03 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
A big part of that last play was that Atlanta blitzed a DB that no one picked up even though it was 5v5. Or if they had recognized it and the slot took a hot route into a slant, it was an easy 1st down because the safety was 12-15 yrds off.

CRedskinsRule 10-12-2015 12:08 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
[QUOTE=Hijinx;1125207]A big part of that last play was that Atlanta blitzed a DB that no one picked up even though it was 5v5. Or if they had recognized it and the slot took a hot route into a slant, it was an easy 1st down because the safety was 12-15 yrds off.[/QUOTE]
Cousins said he should have changed protections. That probably is what he was referring to.

Sent from my S6 Edge

Meks 10-12-2015 12:08 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
To the people saying cousins sucked, fuck off 24 seconds or so and we go from the 20 to a FG ...
People saying throws were way off to Pierre, suck it ... It hit him in the hands nearly every time.


Heartbreak hotel is rich off of us today smfh ... Can't even believe it smh

Chief X_Phackter 10-12-2015 12:32 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
[quote=Meks;1125209]To the people saying cousins sucked, fuck off 24 seconds or so and we go from the 20 to a FG ...
People saying throws were way off to Pierre, suck it ... It hit him in the hands nearly every time.[/quote]

YEP

:goodjob:

Chief X_Phackter 10-12-2015 01:23 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
[quote=Coff;1125183]Good
Skins played a much cleaner game; only five penalties. That's a huge improvement.
Kerrigan returning to form.
Secondary played better than any of us expected going into the game.

Bad
Defense on third and fourth down conversions in the second half. Couldn't come up with a big stop.
Cousins and receivers just not on the same page (I don't care to point fingers; both need to work to improve their chemistry)
[B]2 of the last 3 games our running game has not been effective[/B][/quote]

To me, this is probably the biggest "bad". Even worse, we couldn't stop the run - another concern.

Good - the defense (for about 55 minutes), Breeland especially; KC; Crowder.

A10sROCK 10-12-2015 04:02 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
We played close to an elite team (this season. I still think that Cousins could do a much better hitting his open receivers. Until he does his TD vs. INT ratio will be weak and the team will struggle to win.

I don't see Cousins as anything more than a stopgap QB this season until we draft for a future "Francise" QB in the 2016 draft.

Michaelt31 10-12-2015 07:54 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
[quote=A10sROCK;1125214]We played close to an elite team (this season. I still think that Cousins could do a much better hitting his open receivers. Until he does his TD vs. INT ratio will be weak and the team will struggle to win.

I don't see Cousins as anything more than a stopgap QB this season until we draft for a future "Francise" QB in the 2016 draft.[/quote]

I agree with the Francise QB statement! But make me understand this, you call Atl elite. What is GB and New England? This team is not good, they could easily be 1-4! Everybody move the ball on them except Houston. We should have cruise to 30 points!! We running hand offs to wr's and dumb screens! Are guys was open all day, a little hurry up would have kill them! One deep pass, and it was a great pass!! But one!!

Ruhskins 10-12-2015 08:28 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
Positive: Putting up a good fight against an undefeated team on the road, who everyone expected to dominate us.

Negative: Wasting scoring opportunities in the first half, including not being able to take advantage of two takeaways by the defense. That's how we lost the Miami game, and that's how we'll lose future games if it continues to happen.

Cousins and his wideouts were not on the same page; and it is a bit concerning how in the broadcast it was said that Gruden had to calm him down or something like that. This is why I lean more towards this being more on Cousins. Plus, this isn't the first time Cousins has had accuracy issues in a game. I hope he and the WRs can be on the same page next game.

KI Skins Fan 10-12-2015 08:50 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
[quote=A10sROCK;1125214]We played close to an elite team (this season. I still think that Cousins could do a much better hitting his open receivers. Until he does his TD vs. INT ratio will be weak and the team will struggle to win.

I don't see Cousins as anything more than a stopgap QB this season until we draft for a future "Francise" QB in the 2016 draft.[/quote]

There is certainly a legitimate concern with Kirk's accuracy and also with his poise under pressure, IMO. I think he needs more time to develop because he has played well, for the most part, and we still don't know his ceiling. I'd hate to see the Skins throw out the baby with the bath water.

BTW, please go find a Franchise QB in the 2016 draft and get back to rest of us on that. Good luck! You're gonna need it.

TheMalcolmConnection 10-12-2015 08:52 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
After an evening of perspective, the biggest positive I saw was that we didn't embarrass ourselves after a hard fought win. I wanted the win SO BAD yesterday, but I just have to remember we were playing one of the top offenses in the league and mostly shut them down. We're not there yet, but the pieces are finally starting to fall into place.

Michaelt31 10-12-2015 09:01 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1125186]No not all on kirk[/quote]

The last play was! Grant turn in, not out toward sideline! Kirk threw off his back foot. Stop listening to Jay or Cooley!! These guys are slanted one way!! Hell both ints was his fault!!

mredskins 10-12-2015 09:08 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
Just a painful lost. That is the type of win that would have got us noticed, a real statement game, fuck.

hutch17 10-12-2015 09:19 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1125150][B]Good:[/B]
Cousins
Crowder
Carrier
Breeland (he's the best CB on the team)
Young CB's
Kerrigan
OL

[B]Bad:[/B]
Cousins bad pass at the end (even with Grant falling it was wide)
Garcon (many dropped balls)
D not adjusting to stopping Freeman running to the left
Soft prevent D on final regulation drive
No running game
Penalties
Officials[/quote]

I was at the game and you could tell the passes were a little off, Garcon should have caught alot of them but it was clear that most of them were a little high or wide.

Chico23231 10-12-2015 09:43 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
D jax out is hard on the offense, with Reed out too it sounds like a bit much to overcome. Both d jax and Reed can win their match ups in coverage most the time...knowing that if sounds like Atlanta really just stacked the box against the run.

Also, every time when tom Compton reported as a te, scheme-wise it's a hellava tell on what's coming. Just too banged up for our best effort on offense

Evilgrin 10-12-2015 09:49 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
[quote=Chico23231;1125235]D jax out is hard on the offense, with Reed out too it sounds like a bit much to overcome. Both d jax and Reed can win their match ups in coverage most the time...knowing that if sounds like Atlanta really just stacked the box against the run.

Also, every time when tom Compton reported as a te, scheme-wise it's a hellava tell on what's coming. Just too banged up for our best effort on offense[/quote]

They really missed Reed for the steady first downs.

The biggest reason we lost..

We got run all over, and we couldn't run.

SFREDSKIN 10-12-2015 10:19 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redskinsblog/one-injury-monitor-after-redskins-loss]One injury to monitor after Redskins' loss | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

skinsfaninok 10-12-2015 11:39 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
I think Atlanta just wanted to make kirk beat em passing and he almost did, unfortunately that last pass was the difference. Our run game was way off yesterday and against the jets it'll be just as hard. Hopefully reed and Jax are back

punch it in 10-12-2015 11:41 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1125241]I think Atlanta just wanted to make kirk beat em passing and he almost did, unfortunately that last pass was the difference. Our run game was way off yesterday and against the jets it'll be just as hard. Hopefully reed and Jax are back[/QUOTE]


Jax yes. Reed I dont think should ever come back. The guy has had too many concussions.
Either way 4-3 going to Foxboro!

skinsfaninok 10-12-2015 11:43 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
I wouldn't count a sure W against the jets just yet. They have been playing great football this season. If kirk has no TOS we will win but revis and Cromartie scare me.

Brody81 10-12-2015 11:56 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
[quote=Michaelt31;1125231]The last play was! Grant turn in, not out toward sideline! Kirk threw off his back foot. Stop listening to Jay or Cooley!! These guys are slanted one way!! Hell both ints was his fault!![/quote]

So we shouldn't listen to the guys who do this for a living? The guys who have spent the majority of the lives playing or coaching football? Instead we should listen to a ranting fan on the Warpath? Wow!!:confused?:

30gut 10-12-2015 11:57 AM

Re: Falcons postgame positives and negatives
 
Good-
o Holding Falcons to 19 for most of the game

o Targeting Garcon heavy (even though they weren't in rhythm imo its the right decision to lean heavy on Garcon)

o Crowder

o Derrick Carrier as a back-up pass catching TE

o cutting down on turnovers



BAD-

o run game-

o from playcalling/gameplan to execution from the OL and RBs...gotta be better

o run defense

o need to scheme to help Garcon get open, doesn't consistently separate on his own

o Cousin's inaccuracy and decision making on too many throws

o inability to capitalize on turnovers and field position


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