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sevier2 09-21-2015 06:38 PM

Amerson Waived
 
[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/921-Redskins-Make-Roster-Moves/d6ba3552-08e9-4359-a55f-51c10d4479dc]9/21: Redskins Make Roster Moves[/url]

Can't say i'm too surprised but what a shame. I thought he had the tools to be a good corner for us.


Not sure if this needs an entire thread for itself. Just thought the masses would be happy to read the news.

If need be, move this post wherever you want mods.

MTK 09-21-2015 06:40 PM

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[IMG]http://yogiroth.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/bye-felicia.jpg[/IMG]

Chico23231 09-21-2015 06:42 PM

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He was a mess in coverage...wish the best for him

SFREDSKIN 09-21-2015 06:44 PM

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What a waste of a pick, him and Phillip Thomas.

sevier2 09-21-2015 06:45 PM

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One thing I really like about McCloughan is he seems to be a no nonsense type of GM. Too many times i've seen players STILL playing here who haven't met expectations all because of a big name or something else.

The message is clear now. If you don't perform you're out the door.

SFREDSKIN 09-21-2015 06:51 PM

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We could have gotten players like Eddie Lacy, Travis Kelsey, Tyran Mathieu, TJ McDonald, JJ Wilcox, etc. all picked after him. Another bust from our great ex-GM Shanarat.

Meks 09-21-2015 06:56 PM

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Best of luck, David.

calia 09-21-2015 07:08 PM

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I guess the talk of perhaps converting him to safety was not substantiated. Or maybe Trenton Robinson's performance made that a non-starter. Or both. A shame.

WillH 09-21-2015 07:09 PM

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Shocker

DynamiteRave 09-21-2015 07:10 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1121969]We could have gotten players like Eddie Lacy, Travis Kelsey, Tyran Mathieu, TJ McDonald, JJ Wilcox, etc. all picked after him. Another bust from our great ex-GM Shanarat.[/quote]

I'm not really too heartbroken by skipping Lacy and Kelcey.

In the end, I think we didn't lose too much. Pieces like those wouldn't have made us a complete team back then anyway.

DynamiteRave 09-21-2015 07:18 PM

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[quote=calia;1121977]I guess the talk of perhaps converting him to safety was not substantiated. Or maybe Trenton Robinson's performance made that a non-starter. Or both. A shame.[/quote]

Robinson is better and Amerson is terrible. You can't polish a turd into a diamond. Sticking Amerson into safety, he would've been terrible there as well.

Plus you invested in bringing over a couple dudes at safety, and drafted a dude as well. I dunno, but I trust a Scotty draft pick way more than I trust a Shanahan one.




[I]Note: Except Morris. He did alright with that one.[/I] :joecool:

calia 09-21-2015 07:38 PM

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Agreed on Morris. ^

WillH 09-21-2015 07:42 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1121984]Robinson is better and Amerson is terrible. You can't polish a turd into a diamond. Sticking Amerson into safety, he would've been terrible there as well.

Plus you invested in bringing over a couple dudes at safety, and drafted a dude as well. I dunno, but I trust a Scotty draft pick way more than I trust a Shanahan one.




[I]Note: [B]Except Morris[/B]. He did alright with that one.[/I] :joecool:[/quote]

Except he's already losing playing time to Scots guy by week 2.

sevier2 09-21-2015 08:08 PM

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[quote=WillH;1121990]Except he's already losing playing time to Scots guy by week 2.[/quote]

Morris had 18 carries yesterday.

Jones had 19 carries.

Seems like they're splitting the work pretty evenly, just like the coaches have said they would.

Chico23231 09-21-2015 08:18 PM

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I bet if amerson would have come out and made an impact on special teams vs the rams he'd still be on the roster. Instead he was a ghost and had a penalty called against him.

DynamiteRave 09-21-2015 08:25 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1121995]I bet if amerson would have come out and made an impact on special teams vs the rams he'd still be on the roster. Instead he was a ghost and had a penalty called against him.[/quote]

The coaches and Scotty demand good play or I would imagine, at least showing some sort of improvement if you're not that good. Amerson has been on the downswing since last year.

I feel like they were probably like, "Hey, you're falling down the depth chart. We like you, we'll put you on ST, show us what you got."

Then he went out and got a penalty. Basically signed his own pink slip.

artmonkforhallofamein07 09-21-2015 08:42 PM

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[quote=sevier2;1121994]Morris had 18 carries yesterday.

Jones had 19 carries.

Seems like they're splitting the work pretty evenly, just like the coaches have said they would.[/quote]

With our run game going the way it is, stacking the Redskins backfield in a limited fanduel game seems like a pretty good idea.

CRedskinsRule 09-21-2015 09:13 PM

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[quote=sevier2;1121967]One thing I really like about McCloughan is he seems to be a no nonsense type of GM. Too many times i've seen players STILL playing here who haven't met expectations all because of a big name or something else.

The message is clear now. If you don't perform you're out the door.[/quote]

Well unless you have a certain moniker...

CRedskinsRule 09-21-2015 09:16 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1121969]We could have gotten players like Eddie Lacy, Travis Kelsey, Tyran Mathieu, TJ McDonald, JJ Wilcox, etc. all picked after him. Another bust from our great ex-GM Shanarat.[/quote]

There are always guys you could have gotten. Draft hindsight is mostly a poor man's exercise. Our system (and coaching) has been so messed up, there's just no saying that anyone would have come in and performed based on what they did somewhere else.

WillH 09-21-2015 09:19 PM

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[quote=sevier2;1121994]Morris had 18 carries yesterday.

Jones had 19 carries.

Seems like they're splitting the work pretty evenly, just like the coaches have said they would.[/quote]

Yeah, I was trolling more than anything, I love AlfMo, and hope he and Jones both ball out this year, but. . .

Cooleys take on 980 today was that based on Gruden's non-answer about Jones taking more carries than Morris going forward, that he thinks Jones will become the 1 in the 1-2 punch by years end.

RedskinJake 09-21-2015 09:42 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1121969]We could have gotten players like Eddie Lacy, Travis Kelsey, Tyran Mathieu, TJ McDonald, JJ Wilcox, etc. all picked after him. Another bust from our great ex-GM Shanarat.[/quote]

eh.. it was a garbage draft class that year.. there were probably only 15-20 quality players in the entire draft..

kingj 09-21-2015 09:46 PM

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Thank God

OmahaRedskins 09-21-2015 09:55 PM

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[quote=RedskinJake;1122012]eh.. it was a garbage draft class that year.. there were probably only 15-20 quality players in the entire draft..[/quote]

It produced one starter and one backup.

EARTHQUAKE2689 09-21-2015 10:12 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1121969]We could have gotten players like Eddie Lacy, Travis Kelsey, Tyran Mathieu, TJ McDonald, JJ Wilcox, etc. all picked after him. Another bust from our great ex-GM Shanarat.[/quote]

I was on the Mathieu bus hard, and if I remember correctly, a lot of people here didn't want him.

JoeRedskin 09-21-2015 10:37 PM

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2013 was just a crappy draft class. Not just for us, but for the entire league. Take a look at the top picks - lots of busts in there.

Bangee7 09-21-2015 10:44 PM

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this wasn't a real surprise. he's been thru a few different coaches now & the play didn't seem to be getting any better.

too bad, he has good size.

I wish him well.

Hog1 09-21-2015 10:47 PM

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I did not realize that Kearse was resigned in the process.....Cool

jamf 09-21-2015 10:52 PM

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The odd thing is Amerson played pretty well as a Rookie then dropped off.
Hopefully he can find that fire again and make something of his career.

DynamiteRave 09-21-2015 10:58 PM

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[quote=jamf;1122030]The odd thing is Amerson played pretty well as a Rookie then dropped off.
Hopefully he can find that fire again and make something of his career.[/quote]

I didn't really understand that either. I remember thinking that season we easily had a #2 that could step into a #1 if/when DHall got injured in the future... Hmmm...

*opens a new tab and goes to the "I was wrong when... thread"*

SFREDSKIN 09-21-2015 11:33 PM

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Mayock on David Amerson coming out: "He gave up more vertical touchdowns passes than any corner Ive seen in my life" [url]https://t.co/ifU5GaJmHl[/url]

SFREDSKIN 09-22-2015 12:12 AM

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The Colts are missing their top 3 CB's to injury, wouldn't surprise me if they put a claim for him tomorrow.

HailGreen28 09-22-2015 04:00 AM

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Amerson was good in a scheme like cover 2, where he wasn't out on an island.

Covering one guy for an extended time? He got consistently burned even in college. Shanny drafted him for the defense at the time, to play zone, jump routes, and tackle. Really not Amerson's fault we changed schemes, though he is limited because he tends to get burned often.

53Fan 09-22-2015 11:37 AM

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He had opportunity, unfortunately he didn't make the most out of it. Good luck and farewell.

Chico23231 09-22-2015 05:40 PM

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Raiders claimed CB David Amerson off waivers from the Redskins.

Still only 23, Amerson is blessed with ideal size and speed, but was a frequent burn victim in the Redskins' secondary. There are snaps there for the taking in Oakland's beat up secondary, but there's little reason to believe Amerson will be any more effective for coach Jack Del Rio than he was in Washington.

-per Ian Rapport

30gut 01-14-2016 04:43 PM

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David Amerson tops PFF’s award list for Most Improved Player



Amerson was the Redskins’ second-round pick in 2013, and saw the field in every game during his rookie season. He struggled with consistency throughout the year, and finished with a relatively low coverage grade, which placed him 92nd out of 110 cornerbacks. Last season his coverage grade dropped even further, and he slid all the way down to 106th at his position. Amerson was released after Week 1 this season, and was subsequently picked up by the Raiders, where he’s been a completely different player ever since.

The former NC State standout posted a positive production grade in 2015, despite being targeted 104 times (sixth-most among NFL CBs). On those targets, he allowed just 58 completions and one touchdown. He tied for fifth overall with 13 passes defensed, and also picked off four passes. Last season, he allowed more completions (61) on fewer targets (91), and an NFL-high 10 touchdowns when targeted. Quarterbacks had a 140.2 rating when targeting Amerson in 2014; this season, that number has dropped to 62.7. His improvements have brought him up to an 83.4 overall grade, good for 15th out of all cornerbacks this season.

JoeRedskin 01-14-2016 05:20 PM

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^^ C'est la vie

Alvin Walton 01-14-2016 05:22 PM

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Those grapes would have been sour anyway.

REDSKINS4ever 01-14-2016 08:15 PM

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I hope he learns to stay disciplined and not go for double moves a lot.

DYoungJelly 01-14-2016 09:08 PM

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[quote=30gut;1137586]David Amerson tops PFF’s award list for Most Improved Player



Amerson was the Redskins’ second-round pick in 2013, and saw the field in every game during his rookie season. He struggled with consistency throughout the year, and finished with a relatively low coverage grade, which placed him 92nd out of 110 cornerbacks. Last season his coverage grade dropped even further, and he slid all the way down to 106th at his position. Amerson was released after Week 1 this season, and was subsequently picked up by the Raiders, where he’s been a completely different player ever since.

The former NC State standout posted a positive production grade in 2015, despite being targeted 104 times (sixth-most among NFL CBs). On those targets, he allowed just 58 completions and one touchdown. He tied for fifth overall with 13 passes defensed, and also picked off four passes. Last season, he allowed more completions (61) on fewer targets (91), and an NFL-high 10 touchdowns when targeted. Quarterbacks had a 140.2 rating when targeting Amerson in 2014; this season, that number has dropped to 62.7. His improvements have brought him up to an 83.4 overall grade, good for 15th out of all cornerbacks this season.[/quote]

PFF is garbage.

REDSKINS4ever 01-15-2016 12:53 AM

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1137614]PFF is garbage.[/quote]

So I've heard....lol


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