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I just got the latest issue of "[I]Sporting News[/I]" and in there NFL section they addressed why the Redskins felt no need to address there WR position.

"One reason the [COLOR=DarkRed][B]REDSKINS[/B][/COLOR] deemed in unnecessary to draft a wide receiver is the development of [B]Taylor Jacobs[/B], who has excellent deep speed and the physical ability to be a starter. He has been impressive in offseason workouts..." Page 41.

Like many of us here apparently the coaching staff believes that this could be Jacobs break out year, hopefully it is.

Just food for thought....

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I hope it is.. Gibbs knows how to find a diamond in the rough, not that Taylor Jacobs came out unheralded, but he was regarded as a bust, and Gibbs gave him a second look.

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[QUOTE=heybigstar]I hope it is.. Gibbs knows how to find a diamond in the rough, not that Taylor Jacobs came out unheralded, but he was regarded as a bust, and Gibbs gave him a second look.[/QUOTE]
How could Jacobs be regarded as a bust? He never had a chance yet, he has been injured his first 2 seasons...

If that is a bust then Rodgers in Detroit must have ben a major wast of a draft pick...

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Sometimes, when something like "he has been injured his first 2 seasons" happens", it gets looked at in the light of a bust. I understand where you are coming from though. .... that being said, a lot of teams around the league viewed Jacobs to be a dissapointing pick by Spurrier.

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Maybe he was a dissapointing pick but we did get him in the second round. I think that his first 2 seasons are weighing heavily on him and he might feel as if he needs this year to show what he can do. Hopefully he steps up and becomes the reciever that we need...

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Jacobs has all the skills with tremendous upside. Let's hope he has a good camp and ends up our #2 with Patten playing the slot. I would like to see some 5 receiver sets with Thrash and Darnerian, send them flooding into the deep zone with Cooley as a dump off option underneath. Give him a head of steam and he could hurt some fools.

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I'm here for no plays-Sean Taylor

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[QUOTE=dblanch66]I would like to see some 5 receiver sets with Thrash and Darnerian, send them flooding into the deep zone with Cooley as a dump off option underneath.[/QUOTE]

5 wideouts and Cooley? You trying to get Ramsey killed?

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I'm really on the Jacobs bandwagon, I think he's ready for a breakout season.

I don't think he was ever regarded as a bust, he hasn't been on the field enough to be properly evaluated, both because of injury and the numbers game. This year there should be no excuses.

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Me too. I know it's just one highlight but in that reel that cpayne made, Jacobs LOOKED like a #1 receiver. The way he caught the ball and ran afterwards.

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Make room for me on the bandwagon too Matty.

I've been a fan of Jacobs ever since we stole him in the second round (hasn't looked like a steal yet, but give it one more year). I'm just glad that it finally looks like he's going to get a chance to prove himself this year.

And as with most WRs: Third Year's a Charm. Make us proud TJ.:biggthump

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Big time break-out for Jacobs in my eyes. You guys know what I'm always preaching about WRs needing three years, so I'll spare you.

But hey, this is his 3rd year!

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Gibbs formations are based on protection, so I doubt we will ever see a 5 WR set & dump off to Cooley.
What I'm looking for is Jacobs, Patton(slot), & Moss/Mccants lined up with Cooley at H-back, Portis in the backfield, someone at TE cuz I'm still not sure who I like at that position.
I'm thinking Gibbs wants to play smash-mouth football. I would think Gibbs will want to wear down the 'D' beating them up with a strong ground attack & punish them with dump offs & out pattern when the LB's bite hard on p/a.

Of course this is just my opinion based on years of game film I watched of the Gibbs Era.

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I've been saying all along that I expect Jacobs to breakout this year. I really hope he does. Hopefully that can kinda ease that pain we all had when we passed on Mike Williams. Jacobs was very productive in Florida, so he can definitely play at a high level.

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[QUOTE=ChounsMan]Gibbs formations are based on protection, so I doubt we will ever see a 5 WR set & dump off to Cooley.
What I'm looking for is Jacobs, Patton(slot), & Moss/Mccants lined up with Cooley at H-back, Portis in the backfield, someone at TE cuz I'm still not sure who I like at that position.
I'm thinking Gibbs wants to play smash-mouth football. I would think Gibbs will want to wear down the 'D' beating them up with a strong ground attack & punish them with dump offs & out pattern when the LB's bite hard on p/a.

Of course this is just my opinion based on years of game film I watched of the Gibbs Era.[/QUOTE]

This would make 7 skill position players on the field at once, which is impossible. 3 WRs, 1 HB, 1 RB, 1 TE, and 1 QB. I think you'll usually see Gibbs keep an H-Back on the field, along with a TE, and typically only 2 WRs on the field. That's his smash-mouth style. I'd expect the WRs to be Moss & Patten, though if Jacobs has a good camp, maybe he can beat out Patten. Jacobs should get a good amount of play in 3-WR sets, but Gibbs generally likes a TE/HB/RB/2WR set over a HB/RB/3WR set.

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[quote]I hope it is.. Gibbs knows how to find a diamond in the rough, not that Taylor Jacobs came out unheralded, but he was regarded as a bust, and Gibbs gave him a second look.[/quote]

Dude - get a clue. One, we drafted him because he was by far the best player available. Set to be a first round pick and a good starting receiver, but got the flu for the combine, and obviously, put up bad numbers which dropped him. I mean, Gibbs really had to fish in the 2nd round and scout his ass off to figure out who this kid was... Oh! Oops! That's right, Spurrier drafted him, everyone around the draft knew him, knew he put up big numbers in college, and was said to be a playmaker coming out of college.

Spurrier would have used him a lot more had it not been for freak injuries and I know a lot of people on this board have been high on Jacobs for a long time. Not to mention, I feel it takes 4 years till you can call someone a bust.

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I think everyone or most everyone here on this board can agree that we're all behind Taylor Jacobs 100%! I know there are many if's concerning our receivers right now, but IF Jacobs can prove this year that he was steal in the second round, and Moss stays healthy this year, I think our receiver corp will be okay.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]This would make 7 skill position players on the field at once, which is impossible. 3 WRs, 1 HB, 1 RB, 1 TE, and 1 QB. I think you'll usually see Gibbs keep an H-Back on the field, along with a TE, and typically only 2 WRs on the field. That's his smash-mouth style. I'd expect the WRs to be Moss & Patten, though if Jacobs has a good camp, maybe he can beat out Patten. Jacobs should get a good amount of play in 3-WR sets, but Gibbs generally likes a TE/HB/RB/2WR set over a HB/RB/3WR set.[/QUOTE]


I hear ya... I was thinking the TE was only going to be inserted on these plays as an addl blocker or decoy. With 3 WR's you get to stretch the D in depth, but with Portis in the backfield you have to keep the LB's honest.

Gibbs will need to experiment a bit with his formations this season if he's going to produce better offensive numbers. Last season the offense was too simplified & the defenses picked up it really quick & shut it down.

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that is true. moss will be #1, jacobs #2, and patten #3.

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Jacobs was Spurriers boy. It's not like he has been injured constantly the past 2 years...Spurrier just wanted him riding the bench for a while.

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You're right. Lost my head there. I was in "NFL Blitz mode".

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[QUOTE=mooby]that is true. moss will be #1, jacobs #2, and patten #3.[/QUOTE]

What about Gardner? Has there been any news on him? I've been away for a couple of days.

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[QUOTE=djnemo65]What about Gardner? Has there been any news on him? I've been away for a couple of days.[/QUOTE]

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5 WR + 1 RT + 1 RG + 1 C + 1 LG + 1 LT + 1 QB + Cooley = 12 men on the field penalty.

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i think we picked up TE kashetta from B.C. and is a gibbs type player as far as work ethic is concerned...and he has yet to be released as a UFA. he is a good short area receiver and a much better blocker than royal. royal is just more fluid. i think that would be a nice one two punch and hopefully kashetta makes the team. back to the main purpose of the thread... i like taylor alot and even though alot of florida wr's are usually a bust, (ike hilliard, willie jackson, ridell anthony) just to name a few. taylor is a good size and does have speed/agility to make it. i think he will fit in nicely as a #2 and hopefully work his way up.

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[QUOTE=Daseal]Dude - get a clue. One, we drafted him because he was by far the best player available. Set to be a first round pick and a good starting receiver, but got the flu for the combine, and obviously, put up bad numbers which dropped him. I mean, Gibbs really had to fish in the 2nd round and scout his ass off to figure out who this kid was... Oh! Oops! That's right, Spurrier drafted him, everyone around the draft knew him, knew he put up big numbers in college, and was said to be a playmaker coming out of college.[/QUOTE]

Yo man, you need to chill out, no need to get upset on the board. We are all Skins fans here.

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[QUOTE=mooby]that is true. moss will be #1, jacobs #2, and patten #3.[/QUOTE]


i think you guys are under estimating the ability of patten. remember patten was the first wr we picked up when free agency started and he was the second pick up following only casey rabach. i've said it before and i'll say it again "don't be surprised if patten leads the skins in receptions this year". he is a very good wr, he practices hard, studies film and is a veteran of the game. he's fast, he's quick and he has good hands.
out of the three guys listed obove i would say patten is the best with moss second and jacobs third.

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I'm rooting for the guy as much as anyone, but don't you think that by now, he'd have made some sort of statement, something to make the coaches say "WOW" and breaks into the starting lineup?

I know, I know. Injuries.

But come on. Injuries supposedly weren't a problem last year and he couldn't unseat Rod Gardner. There's got to be some sort of performance that leaves absolutely no doubt in the coaches mind that he needs to play now. Have we seen that?

I don't think so. But I'll jump on his bandwagon anyway. This is his last chance, and we'd better see something that really stands out -- and fast. The first preseason game, I'll be watching closely for him to do his stuff and make everybody wonder why he hasn't played more.

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[QUOTE=wolfeskins]i think you guys are under estimating the ability of patten. remember patten was the first wr we picked up when free agency started and he was the second pick up following only casey rabach. i've said it before and i'll say it again "don't be surprised if patten leads the skins in receptions this year". he is a very good wr, he practices hard, studies film and is a veteran of the game. he's fast, he's quick and he has good hands.
out of the three guys listed obove i would say patten is the best with moss second and jacobs third.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you about Patten. I saw alot of him when I lived in Boston and he is a proven NFL WR. He is a spark plug type, kind of reminds me of Gary Clark, in the sense that he is small but tough.

Include me in the group of, 'I would like to see Jacobs play well and have a breakout year'. I do not question his speed, hands or ability to run patterns. I do question his toughness. He came out of college with whispers about his possible lack of toughness.
I am a little negatively biased about Jacobs toughness, because the only game I saw Jacobs play in college (I forget the opponent), Jacobs took a good hit to his back from the DB while trying to catch a pass. He went down and had to helped off the field. Jacobs did not return until a good quarter or more. When Jacobs finally did return to the game he played scared and was a non-factor in the rest of that game. So to see him as Redskin be a non-factor, injury prone player, it is all I have seen from him.

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How is Jacob's blocking? Maybe that is/was an issue. Somebody mentioned he couldn't out-seat Gardner. Maybe it's because Gardner was a better blocker. Everyone can see that Joe Gibbs goes silly with the blocking. Maybe he'll open it up though. His max protect scheme didn't pan out. He'll adjust.

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Patten's best feature: he's not Moss. He's got the speed and the hands but lacks the 'tude. Don't get me wrong, though -- I hope that they both have stellar seasons.

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i was worried about our reciever corps but even "IF" Jacobs has a good season i thinkn we will be ok cause we will have consistency in our recieving corps and it will provide continuity to the whole team.

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[QUOTE=Grayacre]Patten's best feature: he's not Moss. He's got the speed and the hands but lacks the 'tude. Don't get me wrong, though -- I hope that they both have stellar seasons.[/QUOTE]
When has Moss had an attitude? He complained, just like everyone, that the Jets offense lacked big plays.. He didn't come to VOLUNTARY workouts because his agent advised him not to.. Maybe I missed something..

Regarding Jacobs, I expect him to come into camp as the #2 receiver and if he stays healthy have a solid season. Moss, Jacobs and Patten is a decent trio.

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I really don't see Moss as being a problem from here on, seems like a down to earth guy and a Gibbs guy to boot, we will find out pretty quick if our WR's last season were a big part of our passing game or lack there of.

I think Coles is going to go a long way to proving that one way or the other. If he start's burning up the league next season then we know it wasen't his toe that held him back, if not, then blame could very well fall on both him and Gardner.

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I'm not saying that Moss should be mentioned in the same breath as T.O. for missing voluntary workouts. I am saying that someone who (a) hasn't played a down for the team or (b) done anything to justify the oversized contract that he demanded yet feels comfortable skipping voluntary-in-name-only workouts evinces the beginnings of an attitude problem.

The fact that his agent advised him to skip the workouts is irrelevant. Being a team player does not have to be important to Rosenhaus; it should be important to Moss.

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[QUOTE=Grayacre]I'm not saying that Moss should be mentioned in the same breath as T.O. for missing voluntary workouts. I am saying that someone who (a) hasn't played a down for the team or (b) done anything to justify the oversized contract that he demanded yet feels comfortable skipping voluntary-in-name-only workouts evinces the beginnings of an attitude problem.

The fact that his agent advised him to skip the workouts is irrelevant. Being a team player does not have to be important to Rosenhaus; it should be important to Moss.[/QUOTE]


My thought is if your under contract you should be there, but I can have a little more understanding for Moss who was just traded and in the fianl year of his deal, rather than TO who has a year with his new team with a brand new contract, at some point enough is enough, I really hope philli play's hard ball with him, and let's him know he isn't bigger than the team.

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Carlos Rogers said the best WR he faced in college was...

Taylor Jacobs

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Champ Bailey said the hardest WR to cover in practice was Taylor Jacobs.

The kid has potential, no one doubts that. Just if he gets on the field and we actually throw his ball his way enough for him to make plays is the question.

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[QUOTE=dirtbag2112]Jacobs was Spurriers boy. It's not like he has been injured constantly the past 2 years...Spurrier just wanted him riding the bench for a while.[/QUOTE]
Actually, he had bruised internal organs in his first training camp which nearly shut him down for the season.

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[QUOTE=Redskins8588]I just got the latest issue of "[I]Sporting News[/I]" and in there NFL section they addressed why the Redskins felt no need to address there WR position.

"One reason the [COLOR=DarkRed][B]REDSKINS[/B][/COLOR] deemed in unnecessary to draft a wide receiver is the development of [B]Taylor Jacobs[/B], who has excellent deep speed and the physical ability to be a starter. He has been impressive in offseason workouts..." Page 41.

Like many of us here apparently the coaching staff believes that this could be Jacobs break out year, hopefully it is.

Just food for thought....[/QUOTE]
t.jacobs is a stud...it confused and angered me the last few years when we hardly played him. especially, with gibbs as coach, he should know better than to sit him out in games. didn't we use a high pick on jacobs? i wonder...did we waste our pick? or waste good talent?