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mooby 04-29-2013 01:30 PM

Active NBA Player Jason Collins Reveals Himself To Be Gay
 
[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/jason-collins-becomes-first-male-pro-athlete-to-come-out-as-gay-042913]NBA veteran Jason Collins becomes first male pro athlete to come out as gay - NBA News | FOX Sports on MSN[/url]

This shouldn't be a big deal, but no doubt it will be touted as such simply because he's still an active NBA player. I hope he's received the same inside NBA locker rooms, although homophobia is obviously still an issue.

Chico23231 04-29-2013 01:36 PM

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[url=http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2013/04/29/mike-wallace-big-free-agent-signing-for-the-dolphins-is-the-first-athlete-to-say-something-dumb-after-jason-collins-comes-out/]Mike Wallace, Big Free Agent Signing for the Dolphins, is the First Athlete to Say Something Dumb After Jason Collins Comes Out | Big Lead Sports[/url]

And Mike Wallace couldnt resist.

But, good for Jason Collins. Nothing but support for this guy.

MTK 04-29-2013 01:39 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1006943][url=http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2013/04/29/mike-wallace-big-free-agent-signing-for-the-dolphins-is-the-first-athlete-to-say-something-dumb-after-jason-collins-comes-out/]Mike Wallace, Big Free Agent Signing for the Dolphins, is the First Athlete to Say Something Dumb After Jason Collins Comes Out | Big Lead Sports[/url]

And Mike Wallace couldnt resist.

But, good for Jason Collins. Nothing but support for this guy.[/quote]

I love how social media exposes all the dumb-asses. Ever notice on FB it's always the dummies that have something to say... about almost everything?!

Chico23231 04-29-2013 01:43 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1006948]I love how social media exposes all the dumb-asses. Ever notice on FB it's always the dummies that have something to say... about almost everything?![/quote]

Hilarious the type of comment too. Complete ignorant thinking, its a "choice."

Sports is the only profession where you can be a 60 million dollar ignorant idiot.

Lotus 04-29-2013 01:44 PM

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Good for Jason Collins. It is a courageous move by him.

mbedner3420 04-29-2013 01:50 PM

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Good for him. Hope it doesn't harm his career, but I'd say his stint with the wizards probably already did that.

skinsfaninok 04-29-2013 01:59 PM

Good for him, I'm with wallace on the females part but I would never hate anyone that's gay, if your happy with someone that's the same sex as u then u shouldn't have to hide it. It's 2013 not 1913. I bet you'll see more come out sooner rather than later.

RedskinRat 04-29-2013 02:05 PM

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Sad that this qualifies as news or that people even think it affects them.

Chico23231 04-29-2013 02:11 PM

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It is news, its good news.

BaltimoreSkins 04-29-2013 02:33 PM

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Good for him

CultBrennan59 04-29-2013 02:36 PM

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Good for him. This guy has the balls to come out. Now were waiting for the flamboyant four to come out in the NFL. That would be an even bigger step in sports.

SmootSmack 04-29-2013 02:54 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1006968]Good for him. This guy has the balls to come out. Now were waiting for the [B]flamboyant four[/B] to come out in the NFL. That would be an even bigger step in sports.[/quote]

Sigh

mredskins 04-29-2013 03:00 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1006969]Sigh[/quote]

I know, ha!

The level of asshole from some here never ceases to amaze me.

itvnetop 04-29-2013 06:45 PM

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[quote=RedskinRat;1006962]Sad that this qualifies as news or that people even think it affects them.[/quote]

Entertainment, sports, media- they all reflect (and often spur) benchmarks of social progress. And that affects everyone- especially future generations.

VegasSkinsFan 04-29-2013 09:34 PM

Not a big deal to me. If he can play he can play.

Honestly though, I wouldn't want him on The wizards next year for the same reason I wouldn't want tebow on the skins. Media is going to be crazy with him unless more players come out following this announcement. I glad for him personally that this weight has been lifted and hope he can get endorsements out of it, but it might end his career.

DynamiteRave 04-29-2013 09:46 PM

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[quote=VegasSkinsFan;1007013]Not a big deal to me. If he can play he can play.

Honestly though, I wouldn't want him on The wizards next year for the same reason I wouldn't want tebow on the skins. [B]Media is going to be crazy with him unless more players come out following this announcement.[/B] I glad for him personally that this weight has been lifted and hope he can get endorsements out of it, but it might end his career.[/quote]

I don't think so.

Honestly I think by this time next week, nobody's going to care. I could understand if he was like... Kobe level popular, that would be a circus. But some bench warmer who can barely score 6 ppg? Nah.

DynamiteRave 04-29-2013 09:48 PM

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I live in DC and I was like, "Jason who?" Doesn't help that he's playing for the crappiest NBA team ever.

CultBrennan59 04-29-2013 09:51 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1007016]I live in DC and I was like, [B]"Jason who?"[/B] Doesn't help that he's playing for the crappiest NBA team ever.[/quote]

same reaction as me

skinsfaninok 04-29-2013 10:19 PM

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1007015]I don't think so.

Honestly I think by this time next week, nobody's going to care. I could understand if he was like... Kobe level popular, that would be a circus. But some bench warmer who can barely score 6 ppg? Nah.[/QUOTE]

Lol well dang rave u didn't have to say he's a scrub... True though

Dirtbag59 04-30-2013 08:28 AM

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Sadly my first thought after I kind of realized who it was came in the form of "Isn't that the guy thats rated a 53 on NBA 2K13?" Still good for him coming out. Even somewhat classier that he did it as a free agent and not in the middle of a season. I hope someone signs him this offseason.

NC_Skins 04-30-2013 10:58 AM

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Don't care. Not a news story. Don't give a shit about his sexuality. Might as well have a breaking news about his height, weight, and race. Only bigots think this is ground breaking.


edit: It's still a better story than anything Tim Tebow related. **** that guy...seriously.

Gmanc711 04-30-2013 01:44 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1007015]I don't think so.

Honestly I think by this time next week, nobody's going to care. I could understand if he was like... Kobe level popular, that would be a circus. But some bench warmer who can barely score 6 ppg? Nah.[/quote]

Good for him....

But I'm going to stop before calling him the first "active" player to come out... because he's a free agent now, and he was barley playing as it is.

mlmpetert 04-30-2013 02:08 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;1007096]Don't care. Not a news story. Don't give a shit about his sexuality. [B]Might as well have a breaking news about his height, weight, and race.[/B] Only bigots think this is ground breaking.


edit: It's still a better story than anything Tim Tebow related. **** that guy...seriously.[/quote]


Im not sure if you [URL="http://www.timtebow.com/"]read Collins' article[/URL], but he also made an announcement about his race:

[quote]I'm a 34-year-old NBA center. [B]I'm black.[/B] And I'm gay. [/quote]

mlmpetert 04-30-2013 02:21 PM

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Anyone else think that Jason Collins is trying to make some money on this? A journeyman free agent, at the end of his career who makes the point of brining up the fact that he still wants to play basketball in his op-ed/announcement. Would you take the over or under on him coming out with a book within one year?

CultBrennan59 04-30-2013 02:39 PM

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[quote=mlmpetert;1007141]Anyone else think that Jason Collins is trying to make some money on this? A journeyman free agent, at the end of his career who makes the point of brining up the fact that he still wants to play basketball in his op-ed/announcement. Would you take the over or under on him coming out with a book within one year?[/quote]

Oh definitely, he can gain so much money on being the first male athlete to come out.

NC_Skins 04-30-2013 02:39 PM

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[quote=mlmpetert;1007141]Anyone else think that Jason Collins is trying to make some money on this? A journeyman free agent, at the end of his career who makes the point of brining up the fact that he still wants to play basketball in his op-ed/announcement. Would you take the over or under on him coming out with a book within one year?[/quote]

Not in the least. I think he's trying to pave the way for others after he's gone. Doing it while he's still active could give others the courage to just be themselves.

MTK 04-30-2013 02:46 PM

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How much would he really stand to make off a book?

Doesn't seem worth it to stick his neck out there.

He's probably done ok for himself in the NBA, no?

He's done some basketball camps in my area, he has some family around here, he seems like a genuine dude.

mlmpetert 04-30-2013 05:54 PM

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I think I should rephrase my question because I have no idea who this guy is character wise. And Matty I think youre right, there probably is only little to gain financially by writing a book, but honestly would you take the over or under on 1 one year?

I think the question I should have asked is: What does Jason Collins have to gain considering his new found celebrity? And considering the times we live in, does he have anything to lose?

This article does a pretty good job of summing up how I feel (and perhaps NCSkins, considering his initial comments?):

[url=http://www.ibtimes.com/jason-collins-how-sports-illustrated-created-contrived-nonstory-about-gay-basketball-player-1225715]Jason Collins: How Sports Illustrated Created A Contrived Nonstory About A Gay Basketball Player[/url]

The only thing I disagree with IB Times on is that I think we will hear from him again in a couple days. I think he parlays this into a post NBA sports career or perhaps a political career.

MTK 04-30-2013 06:15 PM

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I say good for him if he spins in to something positive for himself. It still takes courage as a male athlete to come out. Hopefully more will follow. The quicker they do the quicker we can put this in the past and move on.

VegasSkinsFan 04-30-2013 10:47 PM

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1007015]I don't think so.

Honestly I think by this time next week, nobody's going to care. I could understand if he was like... Kobe level popular, that would be a circus. But some bench warmer who can barely score 6 ppg? Nah.[/QUOTE]

I think it's one of those stories that's going to have legs. While the good will far outweigh the negative I see this being a storyline that's going to follow him.

Off the top off head I see a 30 for 30, outside the lines, random non sports media stories, and a firestorm when someone from the stands says something stupid. An even bigger firestorm if its an opposing player. I see him and his teammates being asked for comment every time something political happens at the state and federal level. Even stupid shit like, does it feel different playing in a state that allows gay marriage? Do you get extra motivation playing against X player because he didn't march? I don't think it will be malicious, however I do think it will be constant.

VegasSkinsFan 04-30-2013 10:49 PM

[QUOTE=mlmpetert;1007141]Anyone else think that Jason Collins is trying to make some money on this? A journeyman free agent, at the end of his career who makes the point of brining up the fact that he still wants to play basketball in his op-ed/announcement. Would you take the over or under on him coming out with a book within one year?[/QUOTE]

Na, I think he's made his money. At this point what does he really have to gain? I really do believe that this was about him being himself.

itvnetop 05-01-2013 03:43 AM

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[quote=NC_Skins;1007096]Don't care. Not a news story. Don't give a shit about his sexuality. Might as well have a breaking news about his height, weight, and race. [B]Only bigots think this is ground breaking[/B].


edit: It's still a better story than anything Tim Tebow related. **** that guy...seriously.[/quote]

Can you expound upon this? It's certainly not ground breaking that a gay male is playing on a professional sports team. It is a first that he's actually out while still being active (not retired, like John Amaechi).

If it's not ground breaking, it's certainly more than "not a news" story- it's lead sports headlines, morning talk shows and talk radio for the past few days. Two Presidents also thought it was enough of a landmark moment to actually call Collins. I'm not sure how everyone else's social media networks look, but a diverse cross section of my friends are commenting on this story (including those not even into sports).

mlmpetert 05-01-2013 09:14 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;1007178]I say good for him if he spins in to something positive for himself. It still takes courage as a male athlete to come out. Hopefully more will follow. The quicker they do the quiThe cker we can put this in the past and move on.[/quote]


Exactly the way I feel. If he doesn't capitalize on this than he's a complete idiot, imho.

Im taking the under on a book coming out in 1 year. I will also take the bet that he ends up playing next year. And I see an attempt at politics in his future. Possibly a short stint at broadcasting.

MTK 05-01-2013 02:51 PM

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lol

[url=http://www.theonion.com/articles/dolphins-wr-mike-wallace-comes-out-as-stupid-assho,32252/]Dolphins WR Mike Wallace Comes Out As Stupid Asshole | The Onion - America's Finest News Source[/url]


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