Sick of Free Agency
 

I am merely posting this to get some things off of my chest. I am sick of this whole Free Agency thing. Players are more into the making money part of the game as opposed to the playing with your heart part.

I want us to resign smoot, but the amount of money that the skins are offering is not enough apparently. He claims that he wants to stay in washington, but the money has to be there. The last time I checked he is being offered a 10 mil signing bonus and he wants something more like 15 mil. What in the hell can you do with 15 that you cant do with 10? That is more money than I will ever see in my life. All of these players talk about having to take care of their families and such. Hell, you can take care of a 3rd world country with that much money.

Players need to be reminded that they are getting paid to play the greatest sport on earth and that there are many of people who would love the opportunity to do it for nothing. I understand that agents are necessary, but their greed has had too much of an impact on professional sports. I also understand why there is a NFLPA, but damn, now a days the teams are the ones getting screwed. There has to be some sort of happy medium because I do not like where this is all going. The bottom line is that the players focus should be on the game and not on their wallets because if they invest properly their wallets will be fine.

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angryssg - you have to remember that often players don't start as fans of this team. We're all die hard Redskins fans so we have a much different view on it. I'm sure you'd turn down an extra five million dollars, but for others it's hard.

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hell i would play for the redskins just for the oppurtunity to go to another super bowl. i would play for five dollars an hour. the minimum salary is about 5 times as much as my dad makes in a year. i wouldn't take a signing bonus. i would play for 100 grand. and these guys want 15 million. i think the league should impose a signing bonus restriction that says you can't give a player a higher signing bonus that 7 million.

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Im sure it's different when you know you're only one hit away from not having a job. You push for the best salary you can in your field - why shouldn't they?

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actually im only sixteen. i have never had an official job before other than doing odd jobs for my parents. i understand they get greedy sometimes. it could probably happen to one of us if the skins suddenly decided they would hire you or me. i just don't like how they want money. i want a ring. not money. the ring says it all. not how much money you make.

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[QUOTE=Daseal]Im sure it's different when you know you're only one hit away from not having a job. You push for the best salary you can in your field - why shouldn't they?[/QUOTE]

Because reguardless if they can play or not they still get paid. Besides the vast majority have a college degree. Their life isnt over after football.

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yeah they don't have to play football. there are plenty of other jobs out there.

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How many jobs do you know you can hold out for an extra 5 million dollar bonus? Please let me know, I'd like to apply. They get paid for that small contract, the signing bonus is what they get. After that goodbye.

Yes - a football players college degree is worth a lot. Dexter Manley got a college degree and couldn't read. Explain that one.

People have said this many times, the skins aren't annually posturing themselves to be super bowl contenders. For them respect comes in terms of money, because they certainly aren't winning.

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[QUOTE=Daseal]How many jobs do you know you can hold out for an extra 5 million dollar bonus? Please let me know, I'd like to apply. They get paid for that small contract, the signing bonus is what they get. After that goodbye.

Yes - a football players college degree is worth a lot. Dexter Manley got a college degree and couldn't read. Explain that one.

People have said this many times, the skins aren't annually posturing themselves to be super bowl contenders. For them respect comes in terms of money, because they certainly aren't winning.[/QUOTE]

I cant even begin to arue with you. catch me tommorrow when im a little moe sobre

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redskin fans should not been tired of it.they should be tired of the ones who bring in the free agenys if look at you could say frontoffice is the worst in nfl history.bring in old and tired players and coachs,yes including mr im to old gibbs.then your owner trys to buy a team and then tries to buy back the past.its time to stop play muscial chairs and dance with the lady you brought.now what needs to be done ,dont let stats guide you the d is not the strong you lost a lb and who cares about smoot(overrated) if the o lost the inside the 50 teams dont have far to go.use the draft,if you look at 40 times this far something 11 or 12 db 4.3-4.4 (how fast was smooth)lb running fast times 17 out 20somthing run in the high 4.one has a 45 inch ver.next is the o is ramsy your saver? is running plays that pop warner drew up?a guest what im saying thank god im a eagles fan!

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[quote]a guest what im saying thank god im a eagles fan![/quote]

That must explain the lack of punctuation and absolutely idiocy spewing from your keyboard. Come back when you can make a valid argument. Thank you.

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[QUOTE=footballgod]a guest what im saying thank god im a eagles fan![/QUOTE]

wow, thank god... i'd hate to have to read more than one of those incoherent ramblings... please don't come back unless you have an actual point ;) Weak smack is pretty boring.

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[QUOTE=Daseal]That must explain the lack of punctuation and absolutely idiocy spewing from your keyboard. Come back when you can make a valid argument. Thank you.[/QUOTE]AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[QUOTE=footballgod]a guest what im saying thank god im a eagles fan![/QUOTE]

Better yet, come back when your team can actually win a superbowl, then I might even listen to what you have to say. You realize that if the Eagles have accomplished anything in the past five years, they become a symbol of utter futulity and failure to win a ring, much like the hapless Buffalo Bills from the 90s (who we STOMPED in the Super Bowl BTW). Let's face it the most that the Beagles have accomplished since 2000 is getting an endorsement contract with Campbell's soup! Now that's what I call something to be frustrated about!

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L-O-S-E-R-S, eagles!

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Maybe a little off subject, but I saw some posts earlier about salaries and bonuses of athletes. I agree that there should be a maximum allowable bonus for players; they are already getting overpaid. My dad has been in the military for nearly twenty five years and I don't think he gets paid even a third of the minimum salary for a rookie. I may be a huge fan of football, but our policemen, firemen, military, etc. deserve to make more money than athletes. :(

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You know what I get tired of? Fans who think players need to play for 'loyalty' and for the 'love of the game'.

It sure is easy for us to sit here on our couches and say this, but this is these guys' livelihood we're talking about. Not only is it their career, it's their lives they're putting on the line.

Any player is just one hit away from being seriously injured, hell even paralyzed for life.

Are professional athletes extremely overpaid? Of course. But it's society that's created this monster.

Don't hate the player(s), hate the game.

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when the eagles actually win something other than a soup endorsement then they can talk. until then, im just gonna ignore that incoherent babbling from that eagles fan.

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The difference is if we were paying firemen, policemen and servicemen half what we paid football players our taxes would be outragious. If we go to a monarch maybe we could up their salaries!

Not saying they don't deserve it, just saying it's near impossible because football teams have wealthy owners who are making massive bucks from the team to pay them. Vick got that 100M contract because he sells seats and merchandise. He's an exciting player, but still has a lot of development ahead of him. Since he makes the owner money it's more than worth it to put him on the field (of course I'd trade nearly any QB in the league for him since he has amazing ability.)

Amen Matty. I was trying to say that but wasn't able to get the wording right at 4am!

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]You know what I get tired of? Fans who think players need to play for 'loyalty' and for the 'love of the game'.

It sure is easy for us to sit here on our couches and say this, but this is these guys' livelihood we're talking about. Not only is it their career, it's their lives they're putting on the line.

Any player is just one hit away from being seriously injured, hell even paralyzed for life.

Are professional athletes extremely overpaid? Of course. But it's society that's created this monster.

Don't hate the player(s), hate the game.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, and I also agree with Daseal on this point also. We all have to rememeber that our players are no greedier than the next guy and just trying to get what they feel they deserve based on how they evaluate their abilities compared to the rest of the NFL. I for one have hoped that we would keep guys like Pierce and Smoot in the fold. But if both will get better deals from other teams, then so be it. I hope they do well for their new teams and are able to continue their careers and if they can come back at some point in the future all the better. The last thing I'm going to do is HATE them for trying to get the most out of their talent and celebrity. I know that I don't get paid the $$$ these guys do, but then again society doesn't place the value on the jobs that I do (call center CIS, comic seller on eBay). We all try to make the most of our abilities and get the most for them, so I sure can't fault players for doing nothing more than what I do.

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the players are only balancing the system of professional sports... while a person can wonder how smoot wants a few million more to stay in DC, that's chump change to the owner. no one ever seems to make the owners/management into the bad guys- it's always the players' faults for wanting more money. like stated above, the players are one play away from ending their careers.

and loyalty? how can players show loyalty when management rarely shows it? how many times do you see franchise performers get cut because they are getting old, a younger backup is starting to show starter capability, or because they were signed (by management) to an unfriendly cap number by no fault of their own? the owners have proven that this is a business- and the players have to do what they need to for their own well-being.

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I'm tired of everyone picking on the ATHLETES' salaries............

What about the actors/actresses who make more for ONE movie or TV show than an NFL player will get............of course, they show up for one charity benefit and make sure to have their picture taken so everyone will think they are caring concerned citizens........ :vomit-smi .

Then there are the rock stars.......sex, drugs, music...........and how many of you have paid $75 or more to go to a concert to have the singer lip sync their music :rolleyes:

Then there's the politicians.......Let's vote ourselves a raise because despite our high salaries we can't afford to send our kids to college........well we middle class citizens can't afford to pay you :mad:

If I had to have one of these groups be overpaid......then let it go to the ATHLETES at least they work hard in the weight room, have to risk injury, being paralyzed, or after they retire are crippled for the rest of their life!

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Oh, I have problems with ALL of the aforementioned groups because of their salaries. ;)

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lol yeah they all get too much. although i do think the athletes deserve it more.

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First of all, I think the Eagles' fan had a valid point. The problem is that when he puts on a hat, you can't see it.

I THINK he was trying to say that the Redskins' Front Office is less than fully successful in its forays in to free agency. Now that is a point that Redskin fans should simply acknowledge and move on from because having the list of stiffs signed by this team in free agency for the past 5-6 years posted for review yet one more time is not a pleasant thing at all.

Free agency is not going away for one very simple reason. A Federal Court has ruled that the prior NFL personnel rules - the ones without free agency - are illegal. I believe that ruling came down in 1992 but don't hold me to that. So, unless the Congress changes the anti-trust laws, NFL free agency is here to stay. Deal with it!

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[QUOTE=monk81]I'm tired of everyone picking on the ATHLETES' salaries............

What about the actors/actresses who make more for ONE movie or TV show than an NFL player will get............of course, they show up for one charity benefit and make sure to have their picture taken so everyone will think they are caring concerned citizens........ :vomit-smi .

Then there are the rock stars.......sex, drugs, music...........and how many of you have paid $75 or more to go to a concert to have the singer lip sync their music :rolleyes:

Then there's the politicians.......Let's vote ourselves a raise because despite our high salaries we can't afford to send our kids to college........well we middle class citizens can't afford to pay you :mad:

If I had to have one of these groups be overpaid......then let it go to the ATHLETES at least they work hard in the weight room, have to risk injury, being paralyzed, or after they retire are crippled for the rest of their life![/QUOTE]

While I agree that most of these people are overpaid...if you are talking about the ones on the top level. There are hundreds...no...thousands of actors, actresses, musicians, and athletes that make a living doing what they do, and aren't making these huge amounts of money.

Most bands or music artists...even some of the top ones...don't make the money most people think they do...the record companies, promoters, etc. are making the big money, unless they manage to get a good deal, which is very hard unless or until they are already established and have proof they can be successful. Not like a rookie that turns into a bust, but still makes a mint because of "potential".

Ok, athletes risk injury, but is working out and staying in shape any different than a musician practicing daily to keep his/her chops up? I think not. Also, for most serious musicians, it's not "sex, drugs, music". Plus that type of thing can be said for athletes just the same these days...with all the sex and steriod/drug scandals that keep popping up.

Non-big name actors, bands/artists that aren't in the top 100, athletes in minor leagues (Minor league baseball, Arena football league, etc)....these are people making a living doing what they love and aspiring to rise to that top level. If they do, don't they deserve the same as everyone that has come before them? I think they do, even though it is way too much than it should be. But the bottom line is that if someone is willing to overpay them why not take it? I would.

So I agree that it's not just athletes that should be "picked on"...it's really anyone with any kind of celebrity status. But this is a football forum, isn't it??? We can complain about the other ones somewhere else.