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dmek25 05-08-2012 11:00 AM

trent williams turning over a new leaf?
 
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/08/trent-williams-vows-not-to-make-the-mistakes-i-made-in-the-past/]Trent Williams vows not to “make the mistakes I made in the past” | ProFootballTalk[/url]

GMScud 05-08-2012 11:11 AM

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Woah he tested positive 10 times between Sept-Oct?? I hadn't heard that. Sheesh. Talk is cheap. Let's hope he gets his head right.

mooby 05-08-2012 11:16 AM

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I can't read the article but if he smoked pot once in August-Sept. and they tested him ten times between Sept. and Oct. wouldn't all his tests show up positive? I thought pot stayed in your system for up to a month. So the 10 positive tests shouldn't really be a suprise.

If he tested positive 10 times between Sept. 2010 and Oct. 2011, that would be really concerning. But 10 times in a 1 month span? Either way, he knows what he's gotta do now, so it's on him to stay clean and prove us wrong.

MTK 05-08-2012 11:16 AM

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Weed typically stays in your system for 30 days, so if you repeatedly test someone during the course of a month of course there are going to be multiple positive results.

SmootSmack 05-08-2012 11:16 AM

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I think we talked about this, didn't we? But anyway, thats overblown. The weed was still in his system so he was basically testing positive everyday for the same joint

Gary84Clark 05-08-2012 11:17 AM

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[quote=GMScud;915856]Woah he tested positive 10 times between Sept-Oct?? I hadn't heard that. Sheesh. Talk is cheap. Let's hope he gets his head right.[/quote]

It takes 30 days for marijuana to clear your system. If you test somebody a million times within 30 days since they were last used marijuana, they will come up positive a million times. How many times you fail a drug test for marijuana in a month is irrelevant. Trent may have smoked one blunt during that time period. Now if it was cocaine, then it would mean it's time for a vacation.

SmootSmack 05-08-2012 11:17 AM

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Yeah what Mooby and Matty said

Gary84Clark 05-08-2012 11:20 AM

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woah yall answered quick

MTK 05-08-2012 11:31 AM

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Let's hope he's got his head on straight now. He's got a lot to lose.

Defensewins 05-08-2012 11:38 AM

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Do they test for [B][U]the toxic drug [/U][/B]that kills more people directly than all of the other drugs combined: alcohol? By the way Alcohol is finally categorized correctly as a dangerous toxic drug.
Link below list drugs ratio of fatal dose to effective dose. From least lethal (top) to most lethal (bottom). Amazingly cocaine is less lethal by ratio dose to effective dose than alcohol. Because alcohol is not illegal, that makes it ok.

[url=http://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2007/03/drugs-and-toxicity/229893/]Drugs and Toxicity - The Daily Dish - The Atlantic[/url]

mredskins 05-08-2012 11:39 AM

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He really needs to step it up this year, he is not a bust but he also not looking like he was deserving of his pick.

artmonkforhallofamein07 05-08-2012 11:39 AM

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Thc is stores in fat cells. The length that pot stays in your system is dependent upon how much water you drink, how much you sweat, and some other factors. A professional athlete who is working out and working on his craft should be able to get pot out of their urine in the matter of a couple of weeks. It is also dependent on how much you smoke. If he only smoked a joint then in reality it should not take 30 days to get it out of your system. If you are daily smoker it can take 30-45 days. BUT like I said before an athlete who has quit should be able to get their system clean quicker. Just my 2 cents.

mredskins 05-08-2012 11:41 AM

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I personally think it is stupid that the NFL even test for pot. since pot would diminish your skill set not enhance it.

Pigskins 05-08-2012 11:44 AM

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If he smoked just once it's highly unlikely you'd test positive

CultBrennan59 05-08-2012 11:48 AM

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I see what you did with the thread title...very clever.

Lotus 05-08-2012 11:51 AM

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The question is, is he turning over a new leaf or a new bud?

Chico23231 05-08-2012 11:57 AM

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[quote=Lotus;915879]The question is, is he turning over a new leaf or a new bud?[/quote]

well im sure Silverblunt knows how to turn over the bud when the bong or the glasspiece is passed to him. He's a professional, failed 10 test

The Goat 05-08-2012 12:42 PM

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I partly wish the league would limit it's testing to steroids and other performance related drugs, not the herb. But rules are rules and for the time-being Williams needs to man up.

Mechanix544 05-08-2012 01:14 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;915859]I think we talked about this, didn't we? But anyway, thats overblown. The weed was still in his system so he was basically testing positive everyday for the same joint[/quote]

Ya, just the one joint....... Simple fact of the matter is that this guy uses drugs. He is now saying he used to use drugs. Only time will tell, so until he either gets suspended or we all forget about it after a HOF career, noone knows what did happen or what will happen. I really hate watching young men ruin their life and everyones around them over a couple times of smoking drugs. Seriously, you have everything right in front of you, the world is yours for the taking (sorry to use cliches', but its so true in these instances), but you choose to light up, even after KNOWING they are gonna test your ass for drugs REPEATEDLY, again and again and again every year? I dunno how some of these stooges make it through college with logic like that.

That being said, since he is on the Skins, of course Im rooting for the guy to get his life on track, and make his mark on the world by being one of the best to ever play the game, not a cautionary tale of drugs and supreme idiocy. Good luck TW, RG3 really does need you. Straighten it out and get out there and maul MF'ers.

los panda 05-08-2012 01:19 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;915858]Weed typically stays in your system for 30 days, so if you repeatedly test someone during the course of a month of course there are going to be multiple positive results.[/quote]it will not stay in your system for 30 days if you smoke one time. when i was on probation i got tested every thursday night, i smoked after my test every thursday night. obviously it was out of my system by the next thursday night. granted, i don't weigh 300 lbs, but you see my point

The Goat 05-08-2012 01:21 PM

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[quote=los panda;915916]it will not stay in your system for 30 days if you smoke one time. when i was on probation i got tested every thursday night, i smoked after my test every thursday night. obviously it was out of my system by the next thursday night. granted, i don't weigh 300 lbs, but you see my point[/quote]

:laughing2

mooby 05-08-2012 01:30 PM

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[quote=los panda;915916]it will not stay in your system for 30 days if you smoke one time. when i was on probation i got tested every thursday night, i smoked after my test every thursday night. obviously it was out of my system by the next thursday night. granted, i don't weigh 300 lbs, but you see my point[/quote]

I'm glad we have someone like you around to refer these questions to. What would we do without you?

los panda 05-08-2012 01:31 PM

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[quote=mooby;915921]I'm glad we have someone like you around to refer these questions to. What would we do without you?[/quote]carry on?

mooby 05-08-2012 01:34 PM

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[quote=los panda;915922]carry on?[/quote]

It's a future I don't want to imagine.

los panda 05-08-2012 01:35 PM

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God bless you

SkinsGuru 05-08-2012 01:55 PM

Re: trent williams turning over a new leaf?
 
[quote=dmek25;915853][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/08/trent-williams-vows-not-to-make-the-mistakes-i-made-in-the-past/]Trent Williams vows not to “make the mistakes I made in the past” | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

"turning over a new leaf" . . . LOL . . . hopefully not the sweet leaf!!

mredskins 05-08-2012 01:57 PM

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[quote=mooby;915921]I'm glad we have someone like you around to refer these questions to. What would we do without you?[/quote]

We still have Over The Mountain.

Last time I checked he was so drunk he peed his pants on here.

MTK 05-08-2012 02:08 PM

Re: trent williams turning over a new leaf?
 
[quote=los panda;915916]it will not stay in your system for 30 days if you smoke one time. when i was on probation i got tested every thursday night, i smoked after my test every thursday night. obviously it was out of my system by the next thursday night. granted, i don't weigh 300 lbs, but you see my point[/quote]

I'm sure TW smoked one time.

Probably just got some second hand smoke at a show.

los panda 05-08-2012 02:20 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;915940]I'm sure TW smoked one time.

Probably just got some second hand smoke at a show.[/quote]or maybe he thought he was smoking a clove cigarette at an alicia keys concert

BigHairedAristocrat 05-08-2012 02:31 PM

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Am I the only one that's bothered by the fact he non chalantly said he hadn't made any lifestyle changes? Not a good sign that he's really changed. I'm concerned

skinsfan69 05-08-2012 02:48 PM

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I'm just waiting for the day when weed is legal. I'm sure the NFL will still try and ban it.

skinsguy 05-08-2012 02:56 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;915955]I'm just waiting for the day when weed is legal. I'm sure the NFL will still try and ban it.[/quote]

Despite whether pot would ever be legalized or not, companies would still have the right to perform random drug testing to determine if their employees are using or not. In another words, employers would still have a drug policy in place and I would see the NFL as no different in that respect. So, with that said, even if weed was legalized, a player could still be punished if tested positive.

Riggo44 05-08-2012 03:06 PM

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[quote=skinsguy;915957]Despite whether pot would ever be legalized or not, companies would still have the right to perform random drug testing to determine if their employees are using or not. In another words, employers would still have a drug policy in place and I would see the NFL as no different in that respect. So, with that said, even if weed was legalized, a player could still be punished if tested positive.[/quote]

What if someone had a prescription from his Dr.? Could a company say he couldn’t take his medication?:Smoker:

Chico23231 05-08-2012 03:08 PM

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[quote=skinsguy;915957]Despite whether pot would ever be legalized or not, companies would still have the right to perform random drug testing to determine if their employees are using or not. In another words, employers would still have a drug policy in place and I would see the NFL as no different in that respect. So, with that said, even if weed was legalized, a player could still be punished if tested positive.[/quote]

I dont think the player's union would be going for that, Lord Goodell wouldnt have a leg to stand on if it becomes legal. Silverblunt would be so pissed to look up at the party deck watching Chico sharing a spliff between fans.

NYCskinfan82 05-08-2012 03:17 PM

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Basically what there doing is testing within the 30 days that the potency level in your urine/blood is going down. If it remains the same they know you are still smokeing.

SmootSmack 05-08-2012 03:22 PM

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;915962]Basically what there doing is testing within the 30 days that the potency level in your urine/blood is going down. If it remains the same they know you are still smokeing.[/quote]

The doctor has spoken

skinsguy 05-08-2012 03:22 PM

Re: trent williams turning over a new leaf?
 
[quote=Riggo44;915958]What if someone had a prescription from his Dr.? Could a company say he couldn’t take his medication?:Smoker:[/quote]

A company can still have a strict drug policy in place. I mean, from what I have read as far as what the medicinal Marijuana is used for, I'd doubt any active NFL player would need a prescription for it. Probably not going to have Glaucoma, Alzheimer's Disease, and advanced stages of Aids/HIV or Cancer and be active, but maybe I'm assuming too much?

skinsguy 05-08-2012 03:26 PM

Re: trent williams turning over a new leaf?
 
[quote=Chico23231;915960]I dont think the player's union would be going for that, Lord Goodell wouldnt have a leg to stand on if it becomes legal. Silverblunt would be so pissed to look up at the party deck watching Chico sharing a spliff between fans.[/quote]

HGH is legal, you can buy it out of GNC, but it's banned from the NFL. why would Marijuana be any different?

Lotus 05-08-2012 03:36 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;915945]Am I the only one that's bothered by the fact he non chalantly said he hadn't made any lifestyle changes? Not a good sign that he's really changed. I'm concerned[/quote]

You are not the only one. I wondered what that meant. If he meant, "I still hang out with my stoner buddies," we're in trouble.

artmonkforhallofamein07 05-08-2012 03:38 PM

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Well it seems as though this thread is going to go a different direction than the thread title. Pot should be legal, but I do ask you this, why is it so bad for a guy to go home and smoke a joint after work? When executives and workers alike can go out and get smashed after work as much as they like with no reprocussions?


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