would u take Clarret
 

he's in the draft 2 years out of football. would u take him as a portis backup

me i would why not, u know the kid has a chip on his shoulder and he has talent.

I don't know I guess I like the bad guy.

LMAO!!!! wow

don't get me wrong he has major drawbacks but he' d be a steal in the 6th or 7th round

If he falls that late, we'd be stupid not to take him, in my opinion. The kid is a player and was ready for the NFL 2 years ago, just like Mike Williams was this year. I doubt he falls to the 6th or 7th round, but I think he's certainly worth it!

He made a mistake trying to cover Ohio State and their Boosters ass's and took the heat, he's not that bad of a guy. At least he wants to play football.

not a chance in hell. Getting a running back is a horrible idea. We spent all this money on portis, he cnat kepe thinking someone is breathing down his neck. betts is a great backup, getting more hbs would only mess up chemistry

[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES]not a chance in hell. Getting a running back is a horrible idea. We spent all this money on portis, he cnat kepe thinking someone is breathing down his neck. betts is a great backup, getting more hbs would only mess up chemistry[/QUOTE]

I dissagree i think its more of an investment in portis because at his postion he has more of a possibility to get hurt and he'll excel with a good change of pace back. Similar to TJ Ducket and warrick dunn. Dunn speeds past them, while ducket beats them down the middle. and they both last longer.

I have a feeling he would go earlier in the draft than people would expect.

me too Malcolm - Id be suprised if he were around for our 3rd round pick.

Not only that, I think that Betts is a solid backup and Portis is really young himself.

Betts is solid, but injury prone. I feel our best chance to make sure Portis stays motivated is light a fire under his ass. We're only one play away from not having him, so a backup plan isn't bad. I think Clarett could be VERY valuable to this team.

Am I saying he should dethrone Portis? No. Should he get some playing time? Most definitely. How would you like to let Portis rest for a drive or two in the end of the 3rd quarter, then get him back out there with some fresh legs in the 4th. A backup breathing down his throats means he needs to perform or he's in trouble, that drives many players to their best (See Drew Brees)

I don't remember Clarret that well... is he more of a beast than Portis or is he the same type of slashing runner?

He's pretty balanced in my opinion. He can go through the tackles, and take it to the house. I'm interested to see his combine numbers. Make sure he's stayed in shape.

Yeah definitely, might be an interesting option.

HEY, I've got an idea! Whoever drafts him, we'll give them Gardener!

I'm a genius! LOL

he'll be gone by the third round, this is a very deep draft at running back though so you never know. Clarret has baggage to go with him though, somethign else we dotn need. betts and portis is a fine duo, thats all we need. We have bigger issues that we could fill with our third round pick

Exactly - hense I said if he's there at pick #6 o #7 we'd be stupid to pass him up. I don't think we should use our 3rd on em.

Third round is a good place to find a good center for the o-line. BUT...when we get there, the right guy may not be there, so an RB could find his way in. When the free agents start flying around in a few more weeks, the entire draft picture for us may very well change.

I think alot of people should not underestimate a guy like Maurice Clarett. Anything higher than third round would be a steal for a guy like this. Especially in a shallow draft, like this year.

Clarett will be taken in the second round. I'd be surprised if he drops down below that. Oh and we don't need a RB!

This has Al Davis and the Raiders written all over it. Expect him to be picked up by them for a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

Saden - there's a point when you have to draft for talent. He has a lot more of it than Betts =p

Draft the best available player if you feel you can address needs in other rounds.

I would guess he will 3rd or 4th round. I would say that is too early for us to get him since we have other needs. Another question would be if he would beat out Betts or not. If not he would more than likely have to play special teams and I dont see him playing much special teams.

Maybe with at 6th rounder.

2 years ago, maybe with a 3rd rounder.

I dunno about that. In his prime, I would have guessed 1st rounder.

Daseal, I see you're still online.

Seriously, do we do anything else? HAHAHA... jeez.

Are you kidding Clarett would have been a high first rounder when he first came out even spending only his freshman year in school. Easily top 1/2 of the draft.

Malcolm.. No. No we don't.

Its hard to say. You have to see how he does in workouts and stuff. If he is still in shape, I would take a chance on him. I dont think his additude would be a huge problem because he's very cutable and you can fix his additude, in my opinion. A guy like Moss, for example, could act however the hell he wants and it wouldnt matter, cause you cant do much about it.

If Clarett performs well in workouts, and he's avalible with our 4th, I'd say take a shot.

[QUOTE=Daseal]Are you kidding Clarett would have been a high first rounder when he first came out even spending only his freshman year in school. Easily top 1/2 of the draft.

Malcolm.. No. No we don't.[/QUOTE]


Absolutly! Clarett was blackballed by college and pro football alike, they carried on about how he would be nothing in the NFL rather than see an under classmen succeed and prove them wrong they slandered his abilities to anyone who would listen, essentially saying not allowing an underclassmen in the NFL is for their own good, then kicked him out of college and away from that big time education college and pro both say you need so badly to succeed in life. HYPOCRITES!

Clarett will be very similar to Emmitt Smith, his running style is almost identical, he can find holes that aren't there and power through them, no way he's available in the 3rd round, personally I don't think he will make it out of the first rd. As draft day near's we will start hearing team's talk about how much Clarett has helped his stock in the draft as if it wasen't there all along.

I think that if he was available later in the draft then yeah take a chance on him, but the team needs other areas to be addressed before we even think of takeing a RB.

Like I said, Gardener for a pick good enough to draft Clarett.

Geez... I don't know why they don't fire Vinny and hire me. J/K

Quite simply, no

RB is not a pressing need and Betts proved himself enough to deserve more work next season.

offiss:

Clarett's style is nothing like Emmitt Smith's. Clarett is a younger version of Ron Dayne. They are about the same size and about the same speed and neither one runs over anybody. When Emmitt was Clarett's age, he could backpedal as fast as Clarett can run.

And you can bet that if you take Clarett in Round 2 that his agent will be demanding first round money because Clarett has lots of legal bills to pay...

Thanks - - I'll pass.

[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon]offiss:

Clarett's style is nothing like Emmitt Smith's. Clarett is a younger version of Ron Dayne. They are about the same size and about the same speed and neither one runs over anybody. When Emmitt was Clarett's age, he could backpedal as fast as Clarett can run.

And you can bet that if you take Clarett in Round 2 that his agent will be demanding first round money because Clarett has lots of legal bills to pay...

Thanks - - I'll pass.[/QUOTE]


SC you really need to go back and watch film on these player's ain't no way Clarett resembles Dayne, I don't have a clue how you came up with that comparison, and as far as speed Clarett is as fast as Smith or there about's Emmitt was no burner he was a between the tackles runner with a great ability to shift in the hole and break arm tackles just like Clarett, there is no way Clarett resembles Dayne not even close. Do I think Clarett will be as good as Emmitt? No, but I do think he will be very simiular in style.

i have to agree with sc on this one. clarett is not really that good and he is an idiot. he wasn't blackballed by the ncaa or the nfl. he broke the rules and lost his privilage to play , he could have waited and returned to college at a later date instead he tried to force himself into the nfl. i'm glad he was blocked, that would have opened the door for a downfall of the nfl.the players who enter the nfl " the right way " are young enough. i don't want the nfl to turn into the nba. if you wan't to see a high school basketball game just watch the nba, it's a f-ing joke. lets keep the nfl separate from the ncaa and high school football.i hope nobody drafts him.

I think if Clarett is still aroud on day two take him in the 4th. He challeneged the collage and NFL rules to try and get into the big time early. I am glad he lost his case but someone was going to do it at some time it is not something to hang him over . We want to waste a top 10 pick on Williams who did the same thing but his Collage system was more despirate/softer on him to let him back in a little double standards don't you think ?

The other reason I want to pick Clarett up or draft for RB is we might be extremely thin here. Rock is unlikely to return, Simon looked like an old stash job on IR but still might not be back and Morton looks to be shown the door after the emergance of Antonio Bates on ST and his contract. That gives us Betts and Portis and given there respective styles and injury records you can rely on neither one all season. We could pick up a buldozer back in FA but i don't see it and Clarett will probably be shunned by the PR of many teams.

Also the FA and trade wires will may be alive by the presence of some very good backs Drougns,(sp?), James, Henry looking for a trade and so on and so on.

[QUOTE=bedlamVR]I think if Clarett is still aroud on day two take him in the 4th. He challeneged the collage and NFL rules to try and get into the big time early. I am glad he lost his case but someone was going to do it at some time it is not something to hang him over . We want to waste a top 10 pick on Williams who did the same thing but his Collage system was more despirate/softer on him to let him back in a little double standards don't you think ?

The other reason I want to pick Clarett up or draft for RB is we might be extremely thin here. Rock is unlikely to return, Simon looked like an old stash job on IR but still might not be back and Morton looks to be shown the door after the emergance of Antonio Bates on ST and his contract. That gives us Betts and Portis and given there respective styles and injury records you can rely on neither one all season. We could pick up a buldozer back in FA but i don't see it and Clarett will probably be shunned by the PR of many teams.

[B]Also the FA and trade wires will may be alive by the presence of some very good backs Drougns,(sp?), James, Henry looking for a trade and so on and so on[/B].[/QUOTE]

I hope your point isn't that any of those 1000 yard rushers would be available and anxious to be a backup in Washington.

James is going to be franchised. Though I'm sure he wants some long term security, the $7 milllion-plus he's going to receive will keep him from becoming too despondent.

Henry wants a trade, because although he is being paid like a starter, he wants to showcase his value to make even more. The fact that the money (which we don't really have) isn't enough for him, and the carries (which we don't really have) are what he wants should keep him off the roster.

Droughns is a special case. Though this was a breakout year for him, he's not a young man - next season will be his sixth. In his first 4 seasons, he had a total of 40 carries, working primarily on special teams and as a fullback. He wants "paid", because he'll be 27 at the beginning of next season, and likely won't see another [u]big[/u] payday in his career.

Now, if your suggestion is that the "second-tier" backs will be more spread out because those talents are out there, only time will tell. I'm curious as to why an entrenched starter (Portis) with a promising backup (Betts) would need pressing from an undersized malcontent who couldn't get in shape for workouts that could make him a millionaire last year (me... I mean Clarett).

[QUOTE=bedlamVR] We want to waste a top 10 pick on Williams who did the same thing but his Collage system was more despirate/softer on him to let him back in a little double standards don't you think ?




there is no double standard, clarrett broke rules and was kicked off the team, williams tried to enter after a judge ruled that the nfl was discriminating. williams did not do anything wrong , so he was allowed back in school.

Wolfeskins: What about Ohio State giving Clarett money whenever he needed it? Shouldn't they be disqualifyed from recruiting and Bowl game appearances for their actions?

And what do you mean ruining the NBA? You mean how LeBron James in his 2nd year out of High School is absolutely tearing it up? Clarette is a beast of a running back and wanting to come out of school early didn't strip him of that. He wanted to play in the big dance because he HAD NOTHING LEFT TO PROVE. Led his team to the national championship where they bent Miami over their knee because of Clarette. The kid can run, and I truly hope this thread can be revived in 3 years to see where he ends up.

Wolfeskins - Our nation is built on the court systems. If you feel something is wrong, you take it to them and see how they view it. They viewed, in one court, that it was wrong to keep people away from their profession, so both Clarette and Williams signed up. Now they both had to take time off, yet Clarette is the only bad guy? You said earlier you don't want the NFL to be ruined by young players. Make up your mind and stop demonizing Clarette. Do you even know what Clarette did to make you hate him? Do you know why he was blackballed from college? It was very simple - he lied when the police came. No one ever lies to police! So what you're telling me, is since Mike Williams didn't lie to a few cops that he's a better person and deserving of the NFL? Please. If you're going to make an argument, please make it congruent throughout the thread.

My point about the 1000 yards rushers like Drouhgns etc was that RB poor teams like Miami etc might look there to fill gaps rather than take a chance on Clarett. i don't expect or hope that we pick up a high priced backup for Portis in FA but we do need someone hense what i said about Clarett in the forth round considering he was a top round prospect last year.

Williams has bust written all over him I would rather draft OL or DL and trade down or out of the first round for extra picks I hate WR picks in the first round.

Williams did break the one rule that should ave prevented him going back to college football in hiring an agent I would take a long hard look at his charactor before we anoint him to sainthood.

[QUOTE=bedlamVR]Williams did break the one rule that should ave prevented him going back to college football in hiring an agent I would take a long hard look at his charactor before we anoint him to sainthood.[/QUOTE]
Williams didn't play any college football this year for precisely that reason. He knew he was taking a risk, but chose to take it. He also has showed maturity in dealing with what is surely an unpleasant situation by not particularly badmouthing the NCAA or the NFL. Clarett has done both, though his problems with them are of his own making.

I don't know Mike Williams or Maurice Clarett, but by their actions on and off the field, I know which one I'd rather have in a Redskin uniform.