Props to Pettis
 

This guy is a fearless maniac and can play on my team any day:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzSM3HQ8rnQ]Niles Paul Goes Helmet-to Helmet With Austin Pettis (10-2-2011) - YouTube[/ame]

"Pettis admitted he should have signaled for a fair catch on all three plays."

[url=http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/article_0e5622d0-b0bf-5ec8-a158-744b24676d1f.html]Pettis hit hard trying to return punts[/url]

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man he was getting rocked

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What an idiot, I get that the league is looking out for players' safety but you have to figure that the player who is in danger should be the first guy looking out

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There's a fine line between fearless and stupid

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He's a moron. I hope someone got on his face about it.

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Give him a turkey leg.

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[quote=Ruhskins;844314]He's a moron. [B]I hope someone got on his face about it[/B].[/quote]

well thats a little much, but some coaching would probably help

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[quote=Ruhskins;844314]He's a moron. [B]I hope someone got on his face about it.[/B][/quote] I think Niles Paul did that well enough. Wish he'd nailed him a bit lower.

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[quote=SmootSmack;844311]There's a fine line between fearless and stupid[/quote]

Seriously. After the first non-fair catch blow up he was fearless. Stupid came into play when he did it again.

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I agree with GMScud. The first time, you're trying to make a play. The second time you deserve it. Should have thrown a flag for being a dumbass. I hate the 'defenseless' receiver call when he can wave his arm at any point.

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[quote=GMScud;844356]Seriously. After the first non-fair catch blow up he was fearless. Stupid came into play when he did it again.[/quote]

This.

Also, I disagree with the penalty...he did not signal fair catch. He had the ball in his possession (barely) and got rocked.

These "defenseless receiver" calls all over the league are taking away too many good, clean hits.

It used to be the rule that you just had to let the ball get to the returner before hitting him. Paul did that...and still got flagged by some made-up fairy rule that can't be enforced uniformly because it's a pure judgment call by the refs.

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[quote=Monkeydad;844374]This.

Also, I disagree with the penalty...he did not signal fair catch. He had the ball in his possession (barely) and got rocked.

These "defenseless receiver" calls all over the league are taking away too many good, clean hits.[/quote]

Well, Niles Paul came in high, not too early. Pettis had the ball in his hands when Paul crushed him, but it was helmet to helmet, thus the flag. If Paul had him one foot lower, no flag.

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Looked like a hit to the chest to me.

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[quote=Monkeydad;844377]Looked like a hit to the chest to me.[/quote]

If you watch the slow-mo replay, Paul's arms definitely made contact with Pettis' chest, but he went in helmet first, and his helmet clearly made Pettis' head jerk back. It was the correct call to throw the flag.

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[quote=GMScud;844379]If you watch the slow-mo replay, Paul's arms definitely made contact with Pettis' chest, but he went in helmet first, and his helmet clearly made Pettis' head jerk back. It was the correct call to throw the flag.[/quote]I thought it was more an an issue with Paul not really knowing where to put his head. It looked to me like if he had put his head towards his left shoulder he'd have been fine; but he put his head towards the right which caused it to hit the receivers facemask. That said, I can't really argue with the call.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;844382]I thought it was more an an issue with Paul not really knowing where to put his head. It looked to me like if he had put his head towards his left shoulder he'd have been fine; but he put his head towards the right which caused it to hit the receivers facemask. That said, I can't really argue with the call.[/quote]

I mean it happens SO fast down there on the field, I'm sure Paul wasn't trying to spear the guy. But yeah, it was the right call to throw the flag.

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refs made the right call... still, what a hit.

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[quote=GMScud;844376]Well, Niles Paul came in high, not too early. Pettis had the ball in his hands when Paul crushed him, but it was helmet to helmet, thus the flag. If Paul had him one foot lower, no flag.[/quote]


[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I dont believe that’s true. I believe Riley and Paul were both flagged for the defenseless receiver rule not the helmet to helmet rule. From everything ive read on the defenseless receiver rule it doesn’t necessarily matter if you hit helmet to helmet. All that matters is making “unnecessary contact” on a player who is in a defenseless position. [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Although I havent seen the full rule and I dont think anyone on this board has either. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]See this for more info:[/FONT][/COLOR]

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/44250-understanding-hard-hitting-rules.html[/URL]

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[quote=SmootSmack;844311]There's a fine line between fearless and stupid[/quote]

And Pettis crossed it BIG TIME. I'm not sure what the call was exactly but Paul smoked his ass and you have to like his effort.

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[quote=mlmpetert;844417][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I dont believe that’s true. I believe Riley and [B]Paul were both flagged for the defenseless receiver rule not the helmet to helmet rule.[/B] From everything ive read on the defenseless receiver rule it doesn’t necessarily matter if you hit helmet to helmet. All that matters is making “unnecessary contact” on a player who is in a defenseless position. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Although I havent seen the full rule and I dont think anyone on this board has either. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]See this for more info:[/FONT][/COLOR]

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/44250-understanding-hard-hitting-rules.html[/URL][/quote]

Apples and apples. Even if the flag on Paul was for hitting a defenseless receiver, they could have also called helmet to helmet and they wouldn't have been wrong.

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Both of them were bad hits. You have to give the punt returner (classic example of defenseless receiver) time to field the ball. Even if it's just a second, you gotta give it to him. They shoulda slowed up right before they got there, made sure he had at least caught the ball, then laid the wood. And yes Niles Paul's hit was helmet to helmet, so he would've gotten flagged even if he gave the returner time.