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[I]One of the top Catholic football programs in the nation is finding itself in hot water after members of its student fan section directed chants of "We've got Jesus!" at opponents in a heated, intra-city rivalry game on Friday night in Ohio after they chanted "We've got girls" at the all-boys school.[/I]

[I]According to the Cincinnati Enquirer, then-No. 8 Cincinnati (Ohio) Colerain football coach Tom Bolden, pictured at right, reacted with fury when he heard [/I][URL="http://cincinnati.com/blogs/preps/2011/09/09/when-does-chanting-go-too-far/"][COLOR=#0069aa][I]members of the then-No. 26 Cincinnati (Ohio) St. Xavier student section chanting "We've got Jesus!"[/I][/COLOR][/URL]

Jeez, lighten up Sandy, baby! Whatever happened to 'humor'?

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Ah, the classic "Jesus loves you but he loves me more!"

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Basic kids stuff...Adults should learn to stay out of it....WTF

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People just like to get upset for no reason now a days. Its past ridiculous

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/mad-bro-meme-stirs-racial-tension-ohio-football-011805681.html]'You mad bro?' meme stirs racial tension at Ohio football game - Yahoo! News[/url]

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[quote=mlmpetert;835560]People just like to get upset for no reason now a days. Its past ridiculous

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/mad-bro-meme-stirs-racial-tension-ohio-football-011805681.html]'You mad bro?' meme stirs racial tension at Ohio football game - Yahoo! News[/url][/quote]

I'm black and I'm thankful for what the NAACP has done in its history. But I'm almost... almost tempted to say that all they do now is stir the pot. :/

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[quote=mlmpetert;835560]People just like to get upset for no reason now a days. Its past ridiculous

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/mad-bro-meme-stirs-racial-tension-ohio-football-011805681.html]'You mad bro?' meme stirs racial tension at Ohio football game - Yahoo! News[/url][/quote]

Woah?! "Bro" is a racial slur? Oh shit, I better watch my mouth bro.


Wait wait I didn't mean it!


I DIDNT MEAN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can I still use kemosabe?

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[quote=mooby;835590]Woah?! "Bro" is a racial slur? Oh shit, I better watch my mouth bro.


Wait wait I didn't mean it!


I DIDNT MEAN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[B]Can I still use kemosabe[/B]?[/quote]
Not without offending the Indians, right?

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[quote=Hog1;835609]Not without offending the Indians, right?[/quote]

Sigh, that's what I thought. :(

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[quote=Hog1;835609]Not without offending the Indians, right?[/quote]

ahem, native americans. :nono:

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Glad I have Jesus.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;835693]ahem, native americans. :nono:[/quote]
Ahem....yourself. Native American is a BS PC term created by the White man. I doubt you will find many.....if any "Indians" referring to themselves as NA.

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[quote=mlmpetert;835560]People just like to get upset for no reason now a days. Its past ridiculous

[URL="http://news.yahoo.com/mad-bro-meme-stirs-racial-tension-ohio-football-011805681.html"]'You mad bro?' meme stirs racial tension at Ohio football game - Yahoo! News[/URL][/quote]

That's hilarious.


I hear "U MAD BRO" by people of every race...it's just a saying, not a racial slur or statement.

So let me get my PC-etiquette updated...BRO is now a term only blacks (oops) can call each other, similar to the famous N-word that one race can say in love and the other is banned from saying...if us whities say "bro", we might as well be Nazi-racists?


What's next? The words "brother", "daddy" and "momma" get banned for use by white people too?


I think it's time for a counter-strike. I declare that "Sir" can only mean respect if said by a white person. Next time a non-white person calls me "Sir", I'm flipping out and calling the ACLU.


Lighten up, fools.

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[quote=Monkeydad;835718]
Lighten up, fools.[/quote]

Fools?!?!?!?

That's [I]'Intellectually disadvantaged'[/I], to you, sir!

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[quote=Hog1;835716]Ahem....yourself. Native American is a BS PC term created by the White man. I doubt you will find many.....if any "Indians" referring to themselves as NA.[/quote]

Actually Native American would be more accurate since they are native to America. The term "Indian" describes those native to India.

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[quote=skinsguy;835733]Actually Native American would be more accurate since they are native to America. The term "Indian" describes those native to India.[/quote]

From the Dictionary.com site:

[COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333]Also[/COLOR] called Native American, a[/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]member[/COLOR] of the aboriginal people of America or of any of [COLOR=#333333]the[/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]aboriginal[/COLOR] North or South American stocks, usually [COLOR=#333333]excluding[/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]the[/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]Eskimos.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333]2. [/COLOR]any of the [COLOR=#333333]indigenous[/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]languages[/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]of[/COLOR] the [COLOR=#333333]American[/COLOR] Indians. [I]Abbreviation: [/I] Ind
[COLOR=#333333]3. [/COLOR]a member of any of the peoples native to or inhabiting India or the East Indies.
[COLOR=#333333]4. [/COLOR]a citizen of the Republic of India
[COLOR=#333333]5. [/COLOR][I]Slang [/I]. a person who performs a [COLOR=#333333]required[/COLOR] task or carries out the instructions of superiors: [I]We have [COLOR=#333333]too[/COLOR] many chiefs and not enough Indians. [/I]

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[quote=RedskinRat;835737]From the Dictionary.com site:

[COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333]Also[/COLOR] called Native American, a[/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]member[/COLOR] of the aboriginal people of America or of any of [COLOR=#333333]the[/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]aboriginal[/COLOR] North or South American stocks, usually [COLOR=#333333]excluding[/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]the[/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]Eskimos.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333]2. [/COLOR]any of the [COLOR=#333333]indigenous[/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]languages[/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]of[/COLOR] the [COLOR=#333333]American[/COLOR] Indians. [I]Abbreviation: [/I] Ind
[COLOR=#333333]3. [/COLOR]a member of any of the peoples native to or inhabiting India or the East Indies.
[COLOR=#333333]4. [/COLOR]a citizen of the Republic of India
[COLOR=#333333]5. [/COLOR][I]Slang [/I]. a person who performs a [COLOR=#333333]required[/COLOR] task or carries out the instructions of superiors: [I]We have [COLOR=#333333]too[/COLOR] many chiefs and not enough Indians. [/I][/quote]

Exactly proved my point.

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Pick your poison......
and who wrote the Dictionary's?

in·di·an/ˈindēən/
Noun: An American Indian.
Adjective: Of or relating to the indigenous peoples of America

In·di·an (nd-n)
adj.
1. Of or relating to India or the East Indies or to their peoples, languages, or cultures.
2. Of or relating to any of the Native American peoples except the Eskimos, Aleuts, and Inuits.
n.
1. A native or inhabitant of India or of the East Indies.
2.
a. A member of any of the Native American peoples except the Eskimos, Aleuts, and Inuits.
b. Any of the languages of these peoples.

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[quote=RedskinRat;835727]Fools?!?!?!?

That's [I]'Intellectually disadvantaged'[/I], to you, sir![/quote]

Silence, NativeAmericanRodent

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[IMG]http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15939363/images/1313386023030.jpg[/IMG]

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We still have honky?

WE STILL HAVE HONKY!!!!!

All is not lost.

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And cracker...oh wait...we don't say that about ourselves...it's one of those "allowed" slurs because it targets white people.

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[yt]aRK5rU1ZPJc[/yt]

"Me and my cracker friends were driving down the street in my Volvo station wagon, and I said, hey cracker pass the Sun Chips, and he said not 'till we get to the picnic cracker, and I said cracker please, and then he said cracker what???"

Hilarious, one of my favorite bits of standup.

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[quote=Monkeydad;835797]Silence, NativeAmericanRodent[/quote]

Actually, Monkeydad, we prefer to go by the more correct [I]'Indigenous Vermin[/I]', if you don't mind.....

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[quote=RedskinRat;835843]Actually, Monkeydad, we prefer to go by the more correct [I]'Indigenous Vermin[/I]', if you don't mind.....[/quote]

Disease Disbursement Unit.

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Rats are Ravens without wings.

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[quote=Hog1;835750]Pick your poison......
and who wrote the Dictionary's?

in·di·an/ˈindēən/
Noun: An American Indian.
Adjective: Of or relating to the indigenous peoples of America

In·di·an (nd-n)
adj.
1. Of or relating to India or the East Indies or to their peoples, languages, or cultures.
2. Of or relating to any of the Native American peoples except the Eskimos, Aleuts, and Inuits.
n.
1. A native or inhabitant of India or of the East Indies.
2.
a. A member of any of the Native American peoples except the Eskimos, Aleuts, and Inuits.
b. Any of the languages of these peoples.[/quote]


As the history books has it, Christopher Columbus actually gave the Native Americans the name of "Indios" because he thought he had reached the East-Asian mainland. Of course, as time progresses and dictionaries change their definitions, the definitions of Native Americans and Indians eventually blend. Not a big deal, but I'd say it's only logical to think the more proper term would be Native Americans simply because they are native to America.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;835949]Rats are Ravens without wings.[/quote]

I thought it was the other way around!

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[quote=skinsguy;835733]Actually Native American would be more accurate since they are native to America. The term "Indian" describes those native to India.[/quote]


[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I was talking about this on a long car ride over the weekend. Theyre actual not necessarily native to America, however; they are indigenous to America. I am a 100% native American as I was born here, however; im not a “Native American” proper noun. [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Apparently this is why whenever you fill out something from the government you are not given the option of Native American (since it would apply to everyone born here), it usually says American Indian or something along those lines. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Also wiki has a whole section about terms used to convey American Indian’s and apparently many American Indians arnt cool with the Native American term we all think is so pc. Heres just the summary:[/FONT][/COLOR]

[quote]
[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Native Americans are more commonly known as Indians or American Indians, and have been known as Aboriginal Americans, Amerindians, Amerinds, Colored,[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States#cite_note-clr-75"][COLOR=black][76][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States#cite_note-osv-137"][COLOR=black][138][/COLOR][/URL] First Americans, Native Indians, Indigenous, Original Americans, Red Indians, Redskins or Red Men. The term Native American was originally introduced in the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States"][COLOR=black]United States[/COLOR][/URL] by academics in preference to the older term Indian to distinguish the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas"][COLOR=black]indigenous peoples of the Americas[/COLOR][/URL] from the people of India, and to avoid negative stereotypes supposedly associated with the term Indian. Because of the acceptance of this newer term in academic circles, some academics believe that Indians should be considered as outdated or offensive. Many actual indigenous Americans, however, prefer American Indian. Also, some people point out that anyone born in the United States is, technically, native to America, and that the academic who first promoted Native American confused the term native with indigenous. People from India (and their descendants) who are citizens of the United States are called [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_American"][COLOR=black]Indian Americans[/COLOR][/URL] or Asian Indians.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Criticism of the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neologism"][COLOR=black]neologism[/COLOR][/URL] Native American, however, comes from diverse sources. Many American Indians have misgivings about the term Native American. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Means"][COLOR=black]Russell Means[/COLOR][/URL], an American Indian activist, opposes the term Native American because he believes it was imposed by the government without the consent of American Indians. He has also argued that this use of the word Indian derives not from a confusion with [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India"][COLOR=black]India[/COLOR][/URL] but from a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language"][COLOR=black]Spanish[/COLOR][/URL] expression En Dio, meaning "in God".[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States#cite_note-138"][COLOR=black][139][/COLOR][/URL] Furthermore, some American Indians[[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words"][COLOR=black]who?[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=black]] question the term Native American because, they argue, it serves to ease the conscience of "white America" with regard to past injustices done to American Indians by effectively eliminating "Indians" from the present.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States#cite_note-139"][COLOR=black][140][/COLOR][/URL] Still others (both Indians and non-Indians)[[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words"][COLOR=black]who?[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=black]] argue that Native American is problematic because "native of" literally means "born in," so any person born in the Americas could be considered "native". However, very often the compound "Native American" will be [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalization"][COLOR=black]capitalized[/COLOR][/URL] in order to differentiate this intended meaning from others. Likewise, "native" (small 'n') can be further qualified by formulations such as "native-born" when the intended meaning is only to indicate place of birth or origin.[/COLOR][/COLOR][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]A 1995 U.S. Census Bureau survey found that more Native Americans in the United States preferred American Indian to Native American.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States#cite_note-140"][COLOR=black][141][/COLOR][/URL] Nonetheless, most American Indians are comfortable with Indian, American Indian, and Native American, and the terms are often used interchangeably.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States#cite_note-141"][COLOR=black][142][/COLOR][/URL] The traditional term is reflected in the name chosen for the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Museum_of_the_American_Indian"][COLOR=black]National Museum of the American Indian[/COLOR][/URL], which opened in 2004 on the Mall in [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C."][COLOR=black]Washington, D.C.[/COLOR][/URL].[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Recently, the U.S. Census Bureau has introduced the "Asian-Indian" category to avoid ambiguity.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Additional:[/FONT][/COLOR]

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_name_controversy"]Native American name controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I think this PC crap (outside of [I]intentionally[/I] hurtful and offensive name calling) is all too complicated and ridiculous in ALL instances. Seriously if youre a citizen here then youre absolutely nothing more than a plane old American.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[quote=mlmpetert;836013][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I was talking about this on a long car ride over the weekend. Theyre actual not necessarily native to America, however; they are indigenous to America. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black]
[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]

I don't know, I'm always under the assumption that native and indigenous are pretty much the same thing.

[B]in·dig·e·nous[/B]

   [in-dij-uh-nuh[IMG]http://sp.dictionary.com/dictstatic/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png[/IMG]s] [URL="http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html"][IMG]http://sp.dictionary.com/dictstatic/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif[/IMG][/URL] Show IPA
[COLOR=#333333]adjective[/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]1.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0055BB]originating[/COLOR] in and characteristic of a particular region or [COLOR=#333333]country;[/COLOR][B][I] native[/I][/B] (often followed by to ): the plants [COLOR=#333333]indigenous[/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]to[/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]Canada;[/COLOR] the indigenous peoples of southern [COLOR=#333333]Africa.[/COLOR]



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[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][quote=mlmpetert;836013][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I think this PC crap (outside of [I]intentionally[/I] hurtful and offensive name calling) is all too complicated and ridiculous in ALL instances. Seriously if youre a citizen here then youre absolutely nothing more than a plane old American.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]

I agree.

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Mimpetert has it correct:
"Also wiki has a whole section about terms used to convey American Indian’s and apparently many [B]American Indians arnt cool with the Native" American[/B] term we all think is so pc."

I do not believe you will find many instances of Indians referring to themselves as Native American as a matter of routine. That is a term made popular by the White man and basically not dignified by the tribes......and not used. They use Indian....

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Seriously, this has become the least exciting thread on the WP. Pasting from dictionaries?

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[quote=Hog1;836135]Mimpetert has it correct:
"Also wiki has a whole section about terms used to convey American Indian’s and apparently many American Indians arnt cool with the Native" American term we all think is so pc."

I do not believe you will find many instances of Indians referring to themselves as Native American as a matter of routine. That is a term made popular by the White man and basically not dignified by the tribes......and not used. They use Indian....[/quote]

For starters, Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. I don't put a lot of credibility toward wiki entries as much as I would a good old fashion history textbook. Logically speaking, I would be correct in saying they should be referred to as Native American, since they are native/indigenous (which are synonyms.) In fact, I'd say all of us, who are native to America, would be considered Native Americans as well. I don't refer to myself as European, because I wasn't born there. I am native to America.

Now, if they are not native to this area, then I would be incorrect. But, it would also be incorrect in saying they are indigenous to America. We can dig further into history and beliefs of where we assume these natives migrated from, but for argument sake, if we're referring to what the "white man" labeled the natives as, we'd simply point to Christopher Columbus and what I had stated previously about his term "indios".

Indios meaning Indian, since Columbus thought he was in the Indies. According to history, that is where the term "Indian" came about. You got it, from the white man! In fact, if we study the term indios more, we find it is actually a derogatory term in Mexico - almost similar to the "N" word.

So, revisiting the argument of Native American vs Indian, in my humble opinion, I cannot find the logic from which we would find the term "Native American" offensive? If it is simply because it is the term that the white man gave them, then the white man also gave them the term of Indios/Indian. So, again, it is illogical of the offense. Both would be "not cool". Why not call them Asian? What about the "white indians"?

Knowing that both Christopher Columbus was incorrect in his destination and the fact that our Southern neighbors find the term "indios" offensive, then I would conclude that wanting to be called "Indian" is both geographically incorrect as well as politically incorrect. And again, that is based on the belief that we are both correct in saying this group of people were in fact native to America.

Not trying to be a smartass, and not trying to bore anybody intentionally. I'm just questioning the logic. I mean, would I honestly be correct in saying I wish to be called British, even though I have never set foot in Great Britain, but do have British ancestry? I mean, if someone called me Native American, they would be absolutely correct.

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[quote=Hog1;835716]Ahem....yourself. Native American is a BS PC term created by the White man. I doubt you will find many.....if any "Indians" referring to themselves as NA.[/quote]

jesus, the sarcasm was that hard to detect? The term 'ahem' wasn't a clue that i might not be serious... lol.

Boy if I had known all this would come from me saying kemosabe I wouldn't have said it lol.

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[quote=Hog1;836135]Mimpetert has it correct:
"Also wiki has a whole section about terms used to convey American Indian’s and apparently many [B]American Indians arnt cool with the Native" American[/B] term we all think is so pc."

I do not believe you will find many instances of Indians referring to themselves as Native American as a matter of routine. That is a term made popular by the White man and basically not dignified by the tribes......and not used. They use Indian....[/quote]


Or any "African-Americans" who have never even stepped on Afican soil, let alone are from there.

What's worse, because PC-nutcases like to call every black person "African-American", they'll refer to someone with dark skin from say, France for example..."African-American". You never hear "African-French", "African-Spanish", "African-Portuguese" or "African-Brazillian". It would sound ridiculous. I've even heard reporters call people ACTUALLY FROM AFRICA, "African-American" when they've never even been to America.


They're not "African-Americans", they're Americans just as much as I am. This PC stupidity only segregates people even more. I'm a white American, another guy is a black American, but in the end, we're all just Americans. Stop trying to make up names that don't fit just to avoid offending someone. Your idiocy offends me, PC police.

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[quote=RedskinRat;835524][I]One of the top Catholic football programs in the nation is finding itself in hot water after members of its student fan section directed chants of "We've got Jesus!" at opponents in a heated, intra-city rivalry game on Friday night in Ohio after [B]they chanted "We've got girls" at the all-boys school.[/B][/I]

[I]According to the Cincinnati Enquirer, then-No. 8 Cincinnati (Ohio) Colerain football coach Tom Bolden, pictured at right, reacted with fury when he heard [/I][URL="http://cincinnati.com/blogs/preps/2011/09/09/when-does-chanting-go-too-far/"][COLOR=#0069aa][I]members of the then-No. 26 Cincinnati (Ohio) St. Xavier student section chanting "We've got Jesus!"[/I][/COLOR][/URL]

Jeez, lighten up Sandy, baby! Whatever happened to 'humor'?[/quote]


In Australia they could chant "We've got X"

YahooReporterLD Laura E. Davis
Australian passports will now have option "X" for gender: bit.ly/mVTxAl #lgbt
5 minutes ago

I am not even sure what that means.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;836327]jesus, the sarcasm was that hard to detect? The term 'ahem' wasn't a clue that i might not be serious... lol.[/quote]
No offense intended BB.
AND is it not the fault of Mooby, who..........had to go down the "Kimosabe" road, right?

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[quote=Hog1;836347]No offense intended BB.
AND is it not the fault of Mooby, who..........had to go down the "Kimosabe" road, right?[/quote]

Without a doubt.

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Skins guy:

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I agree that wiki can be edited by anyone for most entries, but i would say most of the content is sourced, reviewed and can be trusted. There are a lot more people that edit wiki in a serious context then there are pranksters that edit in order to manipulate stuff. [/FONT][/COLOR]

Native is a broad term while indigenous is much more specific and precise.

I don’t think most American Indians find the term Native American offensive, but less preferable when given the options of American Indian or just Indian. And its not that the “white man” named them Native American it’s that the American Government did, and according to wiki that’s the main issue. I don’t think American Indians like the American Government all that much.

Everyone knows the term Indian came about unintentionally but after hundreds of years the meaning of the word became what we know it as today. When it became necessary to make the distinction between people from India the term was organically modified to American Indian. Latter the US government endorsed the Native American label for some reason, and it is thought that another naming mistake, although trivial, was made when they used the modifier native instead of the more specific indigenous or aboriginal.

So basically you can find offenses in any of the terms we use to describe them. Indian, because it was a mistake. American Indian for the same reason in addition to the fact that they are not indigenous to America rather indigenous to the area that was conquered and named without their input or consent. And Native American, for the American name issue before, plus it was endorsed by the government that screwed many of their people over, and there was a trivial additional naming mistake made when trying to eliminate the first naming mistake. In addition all the terms have a imperialistic or colonialism connotation to them, which I think is the issue with the term Oriental.

Indigenous peoples might work, although if I was a Indian I would be pissed if you called me that.....