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sportscurmudgeon 02-03-2011 01:25 PM

Joe Theismann Strikes Again...
 
I have never made any secret of the fact that I really dislike Joe Theismann's work as a color analyst for football games.

I do not deny that he knows football. What bothers me is that he just does not know when he has said enough about something and then goes on and on about it.

Here is yet one more example...

Joe was adamantly defending Jay Cutler along Radio/TV row in Dallas earlier this week. Joe was saying that Cutler was indeed hurt in the Packers game and that people had been unfairly piling on him for missing the second half of the game. Theismann's point was that Cutler is a "different kind of guy" and that because he isn't like the typical player, he is being judged differently than someone else who missed part of a game due to injury.

Good. Joe has an opinion and made his case and offered his analysis.

Then he went on to compare Jay Cutler to - - - wait for it - - - Jeff George in terms of skill and personality.

If you were Jay Cutler, you had to like the first part of Joe's comments but then he just had to keep on talking...


[url=http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/02/theismann-on-cutler-hes-a-different-kind-of-guy.html]Theismann on Cutler: 'He's a different kind of guy' - Chicago Breaking Sports[/url]

MonkFan4Life 02-03-2011 01:40 PM

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I never understood the Joe Theisman hate from Redskins fans. Is it because he didn't rip Dan Snyder everytime somebody put a mic in his face ?

We are a sad sad bunch I tell you.

sportscurmudgeon 02-03-2011 01:50 PM

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First of all, I certainly do not hate Joe Theismann. I do not like him as a color analyst for football games at all - - but that is a mile and a half short of "hating" Joe Theismann.

I said that the reason I disliked him was that he never knew when to "give it a rest". Until you brought it up, I had not realized that he was never critical of Danny Boy.

hooskins 02-03-2011 01:55 PM

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I think JT is a terrible color analyst. It is really painful listening to him. I love what he did as a player and I do not have a problem with him as a person.

Why must you love every single thing about a former Redskin to be considered a true fan? Do you have to be blind and without opinion to be a true supporter?

skinsguy 02-03-2011 02:05 PM

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[quote=hooskins;782133]I think JT is a terrible color analyst. It is really painful listening to him. I love what he did as a player and I do not have a problem with him as a person.

[B]Why must you love every single thing about a former Redskin to be considered a true fan?[/B] Do you have to be blind and without opinion to be a true supporter?[/quote]

That's not a prerequisite. I double-checked in my book on true fandom called "Drink The Kool-aid" and it is not found in the reference section of the book.

As for Joey T, he's not that great of a color guy, but I would much rather listen to him call a game rather than Brian Baldwinger or Bill Maas (which is probably in jail now anyways.)

mlmpetert 02-03-2011 02:14 PM

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Yeah i dont hate JT either, i really like him for everything hes done..... except his color analyst role. 2 things suck about preseaon games to me; Theyre worthless, and JT is in the booth.

Terpfan76 02-03-2011 02:26 PM

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[quote=mlmpetert;782139]Yeah i dont hate JT either, i really like him for everything hes done..... except his color analyst role. 2 things suck about preseaon games to me; Theyre worthless, and JT is in the booth.[/quote]

This. What really made me sick, is up until just recently, I really liked... Troy Aikman as an announcer. This year though, he started bugging the hell out of me. Moose Johnston is pretty good though.

MTK 02-03-2011 02:31 PM

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JT compares Cutler to Jeff George, which plenty of people have before, and this is news?

SkinsLove24/7 02-03-2011 02:32 PM

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Terrible tv skills. I feel like these ex-NFL-er's feel like because they played in the league they are the end all on football opinions. (eg..Trent Dilfer) Plus, the fact JT only lasted one season on Monday Night Football tells you about him as a broadcaster. CSN is no ESPN.

sportscurmudgeon 02-03-2011 02:32 PM

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Terpfan76:

"Moose" is starting to get very near the point where he too fails to realize when it is time to shut up and let the audience see what is on the screen for themselves.

I hope he dials it back a bit next season.

sportscurmudgeon 02-03-2011 02:36 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;782144]JT compares Cutler to Jeff George, which plenty of people have before, and this is news?[/quote]

It isn't the comparison that is bothersome. The comparison is not all that far off-base.

But if your intention is to "defend" Jay Cutler and to say that he is being treated "unfairly", I think you should come up with a better comparison than Jeff George.

Remember it was Jeff George who infamously said that "leadership is overrated"...

Granted, Theismann's commentary here is not nearly as bad as Marge Schott saying Hitler was good at the beginning but then things got out of hand. But it is still rather inept.

MTK 02-03-2011 02:38 PM

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Some used to say that George was misunderstood as well, perhaps the angle he was going for but didn't get that point across well.

MTK 02-03-2011 02:40 PM

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I don't mind JT, there's worse analysts out there. I can see why some find him annoying though.

skinsfan69 02-03-2011 02:42 PM

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;782117]I have never made any secret of the fact that I really dislike Joe Theismann's work as a color analyst for football games.

I do not deny that he knows football. What bothers me is that he just does not know when he has said enough about something and then goes on and on about it.

Here is yet one more example...

Joe was adamantly defending Jay Cutler along Radio/TV row in Dallas earlier this week. Joe was saying that Cutler was indeed hurt in the Packers game and that people had been unfairly piling on him for missing the second half of the game. Theismann's point was that Cutler is a "different kind of guy" and that because he isn't like the typical player, he is being judged differently than someone else who missed part of a game due to injury.

Good. Joe has an opinion and made his case and offered his analysis.

Then he went on to compare Jay Cutler to - - - wait for it - - - Jeff George in terms of skill and personality.

If you were Jay Cutler, you had to like the first part of Joe's comments but then he just had to keep on talking...


[URL="http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/02/theismann-on-cutler-hes-a-different-kind-of-guy.html"]Theismann on Cutler: 'He's a different kind of guy' - Chicago Breaking Sports[/URL][/quote]

Sorry to let you know but JT's opinion of Cutler is pretty accurate. Cutler doesn't seem to be as big of a dick as Jeff George, but he's pretty damn close. I mean he basically bitched, moaned and cried his way out of Denver. And as far as skill goes they're almost identical.

Alvin Walton 02-03-2011 02:57 PM

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Joe has been one of my favs since the glory days.
He's always good for some controversy.
And Cutler is a whiney twerp anyways.

skinsguy 02-03-2011 03:22 PM

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There will never be another Pat Summerall and John Madden. <-

redsk1 02-03-2011 03:48 PM

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I have blind loyalty for Joe Theismann. He can do no wrong in my eyes. I can see how one might not like his analysis..i'm ok w/ him though.

MonkFan4Life 02-03-2011 04:20 PM

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[quote=hooskins;782133]I think JT is a terrible color analyst. It is really painful listening to him. I love what he did as a player and I do not have a problem with him as a person.

[B]Why must you love every single thing about a former Redskin to be considered a true fan? Do you have to be blind and without opinion to be a true supporter[/B]?[/quote]

That wasn't what I was saying but is it that you have to hate everything to be a fan now ? Isn't that how things are ?

I'm not saying that everything has to be rah rah rah but,.... hey man you all know more than me.

Bigreds77 02-04-2011 06:59 PM

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Two things how can any Redskin fan hate Joe T and how can any true Redskin fan like to hear Moose or Troy whine when the Skins do win a game? Joe was tuff QB and I would take him any day.

CultBrennan59 02-05-2011 08:23 PM

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At least he didn't call him Jay Cockler

(Danny Woodhead reference)

SFREDSKIN 02-05-2011 08:31 PM

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Love Joey T. for everything he did for the Redskins, especially being part of the 1st SB. Who gives a shit about what he does on TV, he's a football player.

chrishanburgerHOF 02-05-2011 08:40 PM

[QUOTE=skinsguy;782160]There will never be another Pat Summerall and John Madden. <-[/QUOTE]
Hope not. Summerall is a suck Cowboys fan. Sits in Jerruhs box for home games.

Nomad 02-05-2011 09:15 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;782144]JT compares Cutler to Jeff George, which plenty of people have before, and this is news?[/quote]

Finally a voice of sanity...!!! Thanks Matty, can we stop already!

rypper11 02-05-2011 11:02 PM

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I like him on NFL Playbook but he has the same problem a lot of former players have in the booth: he talks way to much and walks all over the play by play guy.
I like Aikman as an announcer (though it pains me to say) but Moose is one of the worst on National TV. I understand that he loves Jerry Jones and Emmit Smith, but does he have to bring it up every game? He consistently gets players names wrong and the occasional misunderstanding of rules is really annoying.

SmootSmack 02-05-2011 11:02 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;782623]Love Joey T. for everything he did for the Redskins, especially being part of the 1st SB. Who gives a shit about what he does on TV, he's a football player.[/quote]

He's not playing football now

SmootSmack 02-05-2011 11:04 PM

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[quote=chrishanburgerHOF;782625]Hope not. Summerall is a suck Cowboys fan. Sits in Jerruhs box for home games.[/quote]

You've never heard him mock Jerry, have you?

Shadowbyte 02-05-2011 11:08 PM

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Jay Cutler is very similar to Jeff George. A miraculous arm with questionable judgement. I thought the analogy was spot on.

SkinzzFan 02-05-2011 11:17 PM

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No disrespect to the person who posted this OR to the topic but this is EXACTLY why the Redskins need to start making the playoffs on a regular basis. As fans, our off-season is so long we constantly find ourselves reaching for stuff to talk about other than actual football games. I'm sure Steelers fans don't talk about the BS Terry Bradshaw has said on Fox...nope they're completely focused on their team beating Green Bay and winning another championship.

Again, I mean no disprespect to the person who posted this at all. Just sayin I'd rather be focused on actual Redskins football games.

SmootSmack 02-05-2011 11:19 PM

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I got the feeling SC wasn't surprised that JT compared Cutler to Jeff George, but that he thought it was a positive thing

SirClintonPortis 02-06-2011 02:10 AM

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At least some of Cutler's teammates got his back. No one gave a shit about George.

firstdown 02-06-2011 07:08 AM

Re: Joe Theismann Strikes Again...
 
[quote=sportscurmudgeon;782117]I have never made any secret of the fact that I really dislike Joe Theismann's work as a color analyst for football games.

I do not deny that he knows football. What bothers me is that he just does not know when he has said enough about something and then goes on and on about it.

Here is yet one more example...

Joe was adamantly defending Jay Cutler along Radio/TV row in Dallas earlier this week. Joe was saying that Cutler was indeed hurt in the Packers game and that people had been unfairly piling on him for missing the second half of the game. Theismann's point was that Cutler is a "different kind of guy" and that because he isn't like the typical player, he is being judged differently than someone else who missed part of a game due to injury.

Good. Joe has an opinion and made his case and offered his analysis.

Then he went on to compare Jay Cutler to - - - wait for it - - - Jeff George in terms of skill and personality.

If you were Jay Cutler, you had to like the first part of Joe's comments but then he just had to keep on talking...


[URL="http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/02/theismann-on-cutler-hes-a-different-kind-of-guy.html"]Theismann on Cutler: 'He's a different kind of guy' - Chicago Breaking Sports[/URL][/quote]


You have JT this subject yourself. Thats beat it like a dead horse.


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