IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
 

Suppose we did take a QB at #10, which one would you want us to draft?

If we were to draft a QB at #10, I would hope it's Jake Locker. He's the only one I would take a chance on that high in the draft. I wouldn't be mad at a Newton pick, but I would probably be at a Mallett pick.

What about the rest of you? Keep in mind the poll results are public

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Blaine Gabbert for me.

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Damn, I totally forgot about Gabbert. I've added him now. We'll just remember that you wanted Gabbert, not other.

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I don't want to take a QB at #10.

However, since the question demands such a scenario, I'd take Locker.

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great thread....this one requires some serious thought

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None, I would hate to waste a pick on any of these guys. Hopefully we dropping a second round pick on a QB. I think Mallet is most talented out of them...I just have a feeling he is not gonna mentally be able to make the transition.

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[quote=Lotus;777868]I don't want to take a QB at #10.

However, since the question demands such a scenario, I'd take Locker.[/quote]

Nor I, but to make this poll a question a bit tougher I gave us limited options.

By the way, for those who are curious "Other" doesn't mean "Not a QB" You've got to pick a QB

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I want Locker.

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This is tough, I'm between Locker & Newton but still unsure.

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Ask me again when wonderlic scores are posted.

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None at 10, I'd take locker around 20 but I'll play along and say if we did take one at 10 I would want Newton just because he's a freak athlete And has huge potential

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Great point by Angry on the Wonderlic scores. Right now, I'll take Mallett. Played in a tougher conference, improved completion % each year, big arm, played solid in big games, carried his team offensively.

Locker had some horrible games, his comp % declined in 2010 with less attempts than 2009, his straight-line speed in the NFL will not be the factor it is in college.

All that being said, we need to move away from the mid-90's Shanny offense and move towards the 2009 Texans passing offense with more run emphasis. Mallett is a better fit for that type of system, than PA and rollouts.

As others have said, at 10 I'm exploring trade-down scenarios or taking best DL or OLB available.

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I don't think I want any of these guys.

Locker - Questionable decision making, and accuracy/field vision problems. Feels like he could be either a boom or bust in the NFL. Yeahno.

Mallett - In Shanny's system? Yeahno.

Newton - Don't like that he has only one season of CF experience, and I have plenty of off the field personality questions about him. The talent is there, I'm just not sure he has what it takes mentally. If he comes in the NFL thinking he's hot shit and he won't have to work hard to succeed I don't ever see him succeeding in the NFL. That and I still think he was in on his dad's pay for play scheme. There's probably a 50/50 chance I'm wrong on Newton, but I just don't like what I've heard about him so far.

Gabbert? Don't like that he is coming out of a spread system, or the fact that his numbers weren't even that eye popping for being in a spread system. I also think he's not that mobile, at least not to the level Shanny would like. In short, yeahno.

I probably shouldn't have even come into this thread lol. Idw any of them as of this point, to be honest. But since a qb has to be picked for the purposes of this thread, I'll say Newton.

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I'm drinking the Kool Aid early and saying that Cam has more Big Ben in him then Vince Young. Maybe being a winner is overated and the BCS is corrupt but Newton has won championships on every level since high school (GA State title, JUCO National Championship, SEC Championship, BCS National Championship). I refuse to be miserable through the next few months worrying about Cam Newton, rather I will now choose to embrace him and his God given gifts.

After that my choice would be Locker then Mallet. Maybe Ponder or Delvin in the 4th round but at that point I would rather draft an O-Lineman. Our chances of developing a pro bowl QB after round one obviously drop off substantially.

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No question, Lock!

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This is a forced choice since I do not want a QB at #10 but if I have to...


Ryan Mallett

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I would like for us to draft Locker, although he regressed last year I think he has the intangibles to improve with the right coaching.

I would only be okay if we drafted Cam Newton and kept McNabb. I think he would have a positive influence on the kid, and give Cam the opportunity to develop some fundamentals on the bench.

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I don't want any of these guys.

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[quote=SmootSmack;777878]Nor I, but to make this poll a question a bit tougher I gave us limited options.

[B]By the way, for those who are curious "Other" doesn't mean "Not a QB" You've got to pick a QB[/B][/quote]


Dalton in the second round, but we could probably get him or Ponder if we dropped into the third round with an extra pick after trading out of the 10th spot.

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#10 Washington Redskins: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri
As mentioned earlier, Blaine Gabbert supposedly is the best quarterback available. He seems like he could fit into Mike Shanahan's offense, so he'll probably be the pick if he's on the board. I don't need to tell you how much the Redskins need a quarterback.

For more on this quarterback, we have an interesting thread going about Blaine Gabbert on the forum.

Other 2011 NFL Draft Possibilities:

1. Ryan Kerrigan or Von Miller, DE/OLB - If the Redskins don't like any of the quarterbacks, they'll take the best defensive player available. That could be Ryan Kerrigan or Von Miller, both of whom would upgrade a poor pass rush.

2. J.J. Watt, DE/DT - Albert Haynesworth probably won't be back, so the Redskins will need an upgrade on their defensive front.

Pick change; previously Cam Newton, QB

***this is from Walterfootball.com**

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Gabbert, he's a fit for the Shanahan scheme. His strength is deep ball accuracy (big arm, nice accuracy, good touch), and Shanahan's offense asks the QB to read deep first, then to the intermediate, then to short.

Gabbert is coming from a system where he didn't have to make a lot of reads, if the deep ball was there he'd throw it. So he'll come in ready to hit on the deep stuff, and he seems bright enough to me to learn the rest of the progressions and reads.

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Other Tyrod Taylor but not at 10. If I have to take a QB at 10 I do not wish to participate in this poll. There is no QB in the draft worthy of the number 10 spot.

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1st round - best available player.

2nd round - Pat Devlin (Deleware) for the sake of answering the qb question
2nd round (ideal choice) - best player available at DE, OLB, G, T, C.

None of these QB's available in the 1st round seem surefire to me and we need to much help at many other positions to possibly waste a 1st round pick on a QB with a high bust rate. We need help at DE, OLB, G, T, C, and possibly a DB if Carlos Rogers signs elsewhere. I'd rather take my chances with Grossman for another year to see if he can improve and keep getting the rest of the team better so when we find a qb we are ready to rock.

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[quote=Chico23231;777902]Dalton in the second round, but we could probably get him or Ponder if we dropped into the third round with an extra pick after trading out of the 10th spot.[/quote]

Should have clarified and said you've got to pick a QB at 10

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[quote=Angry;777912]Other Tyrod Taylor but not at 10. If I have to take a QB at 10 I do not wish to participate in this poll. There is no QB in the draft worthy of the number 10 spot.[/quote]

look i like Tyrod Taylor as much as any VT fan .. but as an NFL QB he is NOWHERE near ready .. project at best .. i predict 6-7th rd pick

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Out of those, Ryan Mallett. Newton is my second choice. Gabbert won't be available at #10, I bet Carolina will take him first.


Locker was the top guy before LAST season, but his stock has gone down in his senior year. Wasn't a solid season for him. He should have left a year sooner for the NFL. He had 4 games where he passed with UNDER 50% completion rate, including a 4/20, 71 yard stinker and 5/16 for 56 yards in their Bowl game. His propensity to throw INTs in almost every game with an occasional big game reminds me way too much of Jay Cutler. He threw picks in 7 of the team's 12 games. Passed for under 100 yards in 4 games too.

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=184374"]Jake Locker Stats, Splits, News, Photos - Washington Huskies - NCAA College Football - ESPN[/URL]

Now compare them to Mallett's stats, against [U]far[/U] better competition in the SEC:

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=232007"]Ryan Mallett Stats, Splits, News, Photos - Arkansas Razorbacks - NCAA College Football - ESPN[/URL]

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The most ready NFL QB coming out this year is Ryan Mallet. He is very accurate, strong armed and mobile enough to escape the rush.

But can he read NFL defenses? No, but what QB can coming out of college? And don't say Luck or whomever, they can't because they have not seen the stuff DC throw at rookies.

Newton probably is a better athlete than most coming out. But that does not equate to being the most NFL ready.

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I would take Mallett.at any rate,Locker and Newton may be gone by the time the redskins pick anyway.Tyrod Taylor is not an NFL QB.his best chance is to be converted to WR or KR.although he could be used in the wildcat offense.

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[quote=SmootSmack;777915]Should have clarified and said you've got to pick a QB at 10[/quote]

In that case Ill trade the 10th to pick Carson Palmer and Cincy's 2nd round pick.

:pimp:

lol fail

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A lot of you may not want to admit it, but the Skins will have to draft a QB this year at #10. Having a rookie QB on board now to learn the offense would be the right way to go.

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[quote=DCtoAZ;777917]look i like Tyrod Taylor as much as any VT fan .. but as an NFL QB he is NOWHERE near ready .. project at best .. i predict 6-7th rd pick[/quote]

I agree, but he is also the best QB in this draft.

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[quote=Angry;777930]I agree, but he is also the best QB in this draft.[/quote]

Tyrod Taylor? I mean he's a great college QB but he'll probably be at best, a Charlie Frye, and that's if he's lucky.

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[quote=juskins;777929]A lot of you may not want to admit it, but the Skins will have to draft a QB this year at #10. Having a rookie QB on board now to learn the offense would be the right way to go.[/quote]

Why? We can draft a QB in the second round. I think its pretty poor thinking by the FO to say our only option is to draft a QB at 10 with so many holes at multiple positions. I admit the smart thing is to draft a young guy at QB this draft, the dumb thing is to overvalue a position (which is overvalued already) and reach for a QB at 10.

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Anybody but Newton.

We could trade for Vince Young if you want a Newton type player.

My vote is for Mallet

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As others have said.... this is a forced decision so I picked "other" only cause I rather have Dalton. I don't care how or what round, but at the #10 spot is a bit high for him.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;777937]Tyrod Taylor? I mean he's a great college QB but he'll probably be at best, a Charlie Frye, and that's if he's lucky.[/quote]

C. Frye doesn't have moves like Tyrod does he? Hate to say it, but that's probably a fair assessment otherwise, Tyrod will be lucky to be a QB in the nfl as I think most teams will not look at him as a qb.

That said, 5th round or later, the kid is solid, mature, could return punts & maybe develop into an nfl qb. He is not a run-first qb, but he runs well.

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I went with Locker, but I'd prefer to address other needs in the first. When I think of picking a QB in the first with all the other holes we have I think of the David Carr pick by Houston in 2002. I don't think he ever recovered from the lack of support crew around him.

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[quote=Chico23231;777938]Why? We can draft a QB in the second round. I think its pretty poor thinking by the FO to say our only option is to draft a QB at 10 with so many holes at multiple positions. I admit the smart thing is to draft a young guy at QB this draft, the dumb thing is to overvalue a position (which is overvalued already) and reach for a QB at 10.[/quote]



The earlier you draft a QB will give you the best possibility of getting the QB of the future. There are exceptions to what I have stated, no doubt, but the law of average is on your side if you draft early. You could make the same argument no matter what position you select. I just think the first round is the round to take that gamble. Yes, it is a crap shoot as with any selection for any position.

The QBs further down the pecking order usually don't pan out - just saying.

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[quote=freddyg12;777950]C. Frye doesn't have moves like Tyrod does he? Hate to say it, but that's probably a fair assessment otherwise, Tyrod will be lucky to be a QB in the nfl as I think most teams will not look at him as a qb.

That said, 5th round or later, the kid is solid, mature, could return punts & maybe develop into an nfl qb. He is not a run-first qb, but he runs well.[/quote]

Sorry, I meant Charlie Frye as a reference to overall production, not playing style. To be more specific I meant that some team will draft him late and through some chain of events (ie injury to established starter or no clear number 1) he'll get a chance to start. Now for a game or two he might show flashes that he belongs in the pros but eventually the team will realize he's a backup at best.

Personally I have two main approaches to the QB position, at least with the Shanahan's in charge. Either draft a QB in the first round or take a fallen first round QB (Smith, Russell, Leinart, etc) and try to see if you can get at least a solid starter that can get you into the playoffs.

The second round QB is my least favorite strategy because outside of Drew Brees who was selected in what is now the first round and Brett Favre no one pans out. Ironically it's the third and fourth round guys that have a better shot as signal callers after the first, but the guys you draft in those rounds certainly aren't the type of players you bank on as the Vikings have learned with Tavaris Jackson, who though a second round pick, was drafted to a team that had everything around him (line, receivers, running game, defense).

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Now I've said probably once or twice that I want the Big WR from Georgia but in this world I can't draft anyone besides a QB because that's all that we are allowed to take at 10.

New NFL Rule, if your team blew the year before and the local media hates said team and everyone forgets that the team existed between the years 1992 - 1999 then you are allowed to draft any QB you want at 10.

So, I would go with either Blaine Gabbert or Kellen Moore. Cam is an attractive talent and I'm sure he'll be a hell of a pro but if I have my pick then its Gabbert, Moore, Newton in that order.

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