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backrow 10-18-2010 07:27 AM

#22 Rogers!
 
Hands of Stone! Covers well, but can't catch a cold! Even my 7 yr old grandson can catch a ball!

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CrustyRedskin 10-18-2010 07:52 AM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
I bet someone has too feed him.

mredskins 10-18-2010 08:10 AM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
Real breaking news, definitely thread worth.:doh:

SirClintonPortis 10-18-2010 09:02 AM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
He needs one of those Porta Pottys.

MTK 10-18-2010 09:12 AM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
Breaking news, yes his hands still suck.

Longtimefan 10-18-2010 09:41 AM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
He can't catch, but right now he's our best cover corner. I never thought I would say that about Los.

scowan 10-18-2010 10:56 AM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
He covers better than D. Hall that's for sure.

Monkeydad 10-18-2010 12:01 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
"Rogers's hands are so bad it's amazing he can feed himself." - Thomas Boswell



:laughing2

CultBrennan59 10-18-2010 03:36 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
Reporters wanted to interview Carlos Rodgers last night but didn't because they were afraid he'd drop the microphone

mooby 10-18-2010 03:39 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
Al Michaels said it best last night when talking about Rogers: He'd be in the Pro Bowl every year if he could catch the damn ball.

MonkFan4Life 10-18-2010 03:41 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
Which is EXACTLY what Carlos says every offseason when his hands are called into question.

SirClintonPortis 10-18-2010 03:41 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
The Final Solution to Carlos's Problem.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Chiefs-use-porta-potty-drill-for-running-back-su?urn=nfl-277509]Chiefs use porta-potty drill for running back success - Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

diehard 10-18-2010 03:43 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
It's not the end of the world.

MTK 10-18-2010 03:44 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
Some things never change, Los will always have bad hands and some fans will always botch the spelling of his name. ;)

DCtoAZ 10-18-2010 04:13 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
this thread deserves this
:bdh::bdh:

Longtimefan 10-18-2010 08:21 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
I have a curiosity about the play where Carlos missed on the interception. It would appear from the replay that Carlos actually caught the ball and his off-balance momentum carried him to the ground on his backside. When he hit the ground the ball came lose and the ruling on the field was incomplete, because the rule states the player must maintain possession throughout the process, even after hitting the ground.

Now this is what I'm curious about: The Colts challenged the play saying that Rogers caught the ball and the play should have been ruled an interception and fumble, recoverered by the Colts. Had the official actually reversed the ruling on the field and found that Rogers did indeed catch the ball and fumbled it after hitting the ground, then the results of the Colts challenge would have presented an interesting dilema.

The ruling is, the ground can't cause a fumble. When Carlos went to the ground he wasn't down by contact. I'm curious about what would have been the outcome of the challenge had the replay official actually agreed with the Colts initial contention that Rogers caught the ball and then fumbled it.....A challenge by the Colts that would have actually worked to the benefit of the Redskins?

CRedskinsRule 10-18-2010 08:46 PM

Since they can follow the play through the fumble and see if possession is clear then they could have ruled INT fumble and recovery by Indianapolis. I was sure that was going to be the ruling and thus even when Los got an INT we still got nada. Fortunately he did not hold on.

SouperMeister 10-18-2010 11:28 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
I've been counting this season, and after 6 games, Rogers has dropped 5 INTs where he had his hands on the ball, two of which would have iced victories. Dude would be great if he could catch even 50% of his chances.

SouperMeister 10-18-2010 11:36 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
[quote=Longtimefan;749834]I have a curiosity about the play where Carlos missed on the interception. It would appear from the replay that Carlos actually caught the ball and his off-balance momentum carried him to the ground on his backside. When he hit the ground the ball came lose and the ruling on the field was incomplete, because the rule states the player must maintain possession throughout the process, even after hitting the ground.

Now this is what I'm curious about: The Colts challenged the play saying that Rogers caught the ball and the play should have been ruled an interception and fumble, recoverered by the Colts. Had the official actually reversed the ruling on the field and found that Rogers did indeed catch the ball and fumbled it after hitting the ground, then the results of the Colts challenge would have presented an interesting dilema.

The ruling is, the ground can't cause a fumble. When Carlos went to the ground he wasn't down by contact. I'm curious about what would have been the outcome of the challenge had the replay official actually agreed with the Colts initial contention that Rogers caught the ball and then fumbled it.....A challenge by the Colts that would have actually worked to the benefit of the Redskins?[/quote]The NFL introduced this flukey rule in the last 10 years that a receiver or a defender must maintain possession even after hitting the ground when falling to the ground as a single act following the catch. By this new definition of what constitutes a catch, Butch Johnson's TD in Super Bowl XIII would have been an incompletion. That said, if a receiver or defender makes a 2nd act after the catch, tucking the ball away, cutting upfield, tripping on his own, falling, then fumbling, [U]then the ground can most certainly cause a fumble[/U].

DynamiteRave 10-18-2010 11:39 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
I'm pretty sure I read on here somewhere that someone said the coaches say that Rogers catches everything in practice, its just on Sundays his hands blow.

Ruhskins 10-18-2010 11:46 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;749865]I'm pretty sure I read on here somewhere that someone said the coaches say that Rogers catches everything in practice, its just on Sundays his hands blow.[/quote]

Someone tell his hands that it is Tuesday or Wednesday.

The Goat 10-18-2010 11:48 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
As long as we don't EVER pay him much Los is a keeper. For all practical purposes he has exactly zero playmaking ability, and when his skill sets tapers off just a tad from age he'll be almost useless. Sooo if a franchise is willing to throw money at him...let's give him a round of silent applause lol.

...extend him on the cheap and upgrade FS :)

SouperMeister 10-19-2010 12:28 AM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
[quote=The Goat;749872]As long as we don't EVER pay him much Los is a keeper. For all practical purposes he has exactly zero playmaking ability, and when his skill sets tapers off just a tad from age he'll be almost useless. Sooo if a franchise is willing to throw money at him...let's give him a round of silent applause lol.

...extend him on the cheap and upgrade FS [/quote]I totally agree on only retaining Rogers for the right price. Hall got paid because he made more plays in half a season here in 2008 than Rogers has made his entire career.

Bubba305-ST21- 10-19-2010 03:05 AM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
I believe he catches everything in practice. I think its in his head too much on sundays when considering all the previous drops, and he just thinks about it too much.

Monkeydad 10-19-2010 10:36 AM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
[quote=DCtoAZ;749790]this thread deserves this
:bdh::bdh:[/quote]


Carlos deserves those for each of the picks he dropped last game.

firstdown 10-19-2010 11:22 AM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
I have a hard time believing he catches everything in practice.

MTK 10-19-2010 11:39 AM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
[quote=SouperMeister;749864]The NFL introduced this flukey rule in the last 10 years that a receiver or a defender must maintain possession even after hitting the ground when falling to the ground as a single act following the catch. By this new definition of what constitutes a catch, Butch Johnson's TD in Super Bowl XIII would have been an incompletion. [B]That said, if a receiver or defender makes a 2nd act after the catch, tucking the ball away, cutting upfield, tripping on his own, falling, then fumbling, [U]then the ground can most certainly cause a fumble[/U][/B].[/quote]

*As long as he's not contacted by an opponent.

skinsfan_nn 10-19-2010 12:40 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
I'd have to see it with my own two eyes. Cause the boy couldn't catch a damn football during a game if his life depended on it.


[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;749880]I believe he catches everything in practice. I think its in his head too much on sundays when considering all the previous drops, and he just thinks about it too much.[/quote]

skinsguy 10-19-2010 12:41 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
[quote=Mattyk;749966]*As long as he's not contacted by an opponent.[/quote]

Correct.

Although I will say that was the longest timed drop of an INT I have ever witnessed.

Lotus 10-19-2010 01:41 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
This thread lacks a real issue.

Therefore, I suggest that the problem is not Rogers' hands, the problem is the shape of the ball. The NFL needs to adopt a round ball like in volleyball. Discuss.

GhettoDogAllStars 10-19-2010 01:48 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
[quote=Lotus;750013]This thread lacks a real issue.

Therefore, I suggest that the problem is not Rogers' hands, the problem is the shape of the ball. The NFL needs to adopt a round ball like in volleyball. Discuss.[/quote]

It would make field goals interesting.

Monkeydad 10-19-2010 01:54 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
[quote=Lotus;750013]This thread lacks a real issue.

Therefore, I suggest that the problem is not Rogers' hands, the problem is the shape of the ball. The NFL needs to adopt a round ball like in volleyball. Discuss.[/quote]

INTs may increase, but fumbles would skyrocket.

This is what they need:

[IMG]http://www.ironbellathletics.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/kettlebell-comparison-014.jpg[/IMG]






Carlos' only hope so be a turnover force is if they start using these:

[IMG]http://totallytoyz.com/shop/images/velcrocatch.jpg[/IMG]

skinsfan69 10-19-2010 02:00 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
It is what it is. I don't know why people make a big deal out of it. He's a DB, not a WR. The guy can't catch. Tell me something I don't know.

Monkeydad 10-19-2010 02:07 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
Yes, but catching the ball IS part of his job.


If he were a LB, it would be less of an issue...but INTs are part of what a DB is SUPPOSED to do.

This would be like a catcher who can't throw the ball...like Jorge Posada who only throws out 14% of base-stealers. Yes, he's great at other parts of his game, but his one big issue does end up costing the team far more often than it should. Makes for a tough decision for the team.

Longtimefan 10-19-2010 02:17 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
[quote=SouperMeister;749864]The NFL introduced this flukey rule in the last 10 years that a receiver or a defender must maintain possession even after hitting the ground when falling to the ground as a single act following the catch. By this new definition of what constitutes a catch, Butch Johnson's TD in Super Bowl XIII would have been an incompletion. That said, if a receiver or defender makes a 2nd act after the catch, tucking the ball away, cutting upfield, tripping on his own, falling, then fumbling, [U]then the ground can most certainly cause a fumble[/U].[/quote]

Thanks SM for the explanation. I wasn't sure I could actually express what I wanted to say about the play and make it make sense.

MTK 10-19-2010 02:19 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
[quote=skinsfan69;750021]It is what it is. I don't know why people make a big deal out of it. He's a DB, not a WR. The guy can't catch. Tell me something I don't know.[/quote]

So when you're watching games and you see him drop INTs on a weekly basis, your initial reaction is just meh, not his job?

skinsfan69 10-19-2010 02:56 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
[quote=Mattyk;750026]So when you're watching games and you see him drop INTs on a weekly basis, your initial reaction is just meh, not his job?[/quote]

At this point I just laugh cause he's dropped so many. His first job is to cover and he's been doing a decent job. Would you rather have Rogers, who has been covering well, or Hall who catches everything but can't cover Danny Amendola. Give me Rogers.

SmootSmack 10-22-2010 01:55 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
This isn't a stat I would have expected Rogers and Revis to share

[QUOTE]According to STATS LLC, Rogers has failed to come down with a league-high six "pickable passes" this season. He's had 10 since the start of 2009, tying him with Johnathan Joseph and Darrelle Revis for the most over that period.[/QUOTE]

[url=http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2013224764_apfbnredskinsrogershands.html]Sports | Redskins CB Rogers can cover, still can't catch | Seattle Times Newspaper[/url]

Ruhskins 10-22-2010 02:10 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
Ironically, playing Madden last night Carlos Rogers made a one-handed pick. If I could figure out how to save Madden highlights, I would have. Of course, Madden Carlos Rogers also proceeded to drop three INTs in that same game.

MTK 10-22-2010 02:13 PM

Re: #22 Rogers!
 
I haven't bothered looking but Rogers should have the worst hands in the game in Madden.


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