Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy
 

Haynesworth comes off his best game of the year at Philly, and I can't help but think that he would've put forth another strong effort in his brother's memory. He supposedly showed up this week on Thursday, practiced hard, and wanted to play. I believe that Haynesworth was inactive for prior sins. At this point, why is he on the roster if Shanahan won't use him?

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Lack of practice time and maybe he's still not mentally ready to play after a big tragedy.

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Possibly mishandled, but I think complaining that he would have changed the outcome of this one is a case of 20-20 hindsight. All evidence points to the fact he wouldn't have.

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In my opinion he should have played. But if he's not playing he should be on the sidelines with his teammates, not up in a suite

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Absolutely not. He was perfectly in reason to do what he did. I would've loved to have Haynesworth out there tonight, but Haynesworth missed practice time this week and that's what happens. Obviously it wasn't through any fault of his own that he wasn't with the team last week but it's just something that happened. And Haynesworth wasn't coming off his best game of the year, Haynesworth was coming off a week off from the game due to what happened.

I don't think this had anything to do with "prior sins." This just had to do with Haynesworth coming back on Thursday, and obviously Shanny didn't think he was ready to play. Make no mistake he'll be back in the lineup against the Bears barring injury or some other unforeseen event. I think the Bears will be a great game for him to come back to as well, he should be able to pick up right where he left off against the Bears' o-line.

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[quote=SmootSmack;749320]In my opinion he should have played. But if he's not playing he should be on the sidelines with his teammates, not up in a suite[/quote]

With a hot gold digger.

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I think he definitely should have been allowed to play.

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To my knowledge, we do not know what the...real motivation for deactivation was for?? In that light how can anybody accurately answer this question???

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[quote=SmootSmack;749320]In my opinion he should have played. But if he's not playing he should be on the sidelines with his teammates, not up in a suite[/quote]

Any word on him being traded? I must say being this close to the trade deadline makes people wonder about this move.

And yeah, what's up with him being up in a suite?

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He may nor may not have done anything. He may have remedied the lack of the push up the middle, but Manning could have caught him in playing undisciplined and got a big play off of him.

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[quote=Ruhskins;749329]Any word on him being traded? I must say being this close to the trade deadline makes people wonder about this move.

And yeah, what's up with him being up in a suite?[/quote]

Allen says no

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Maybe in the press conference Shanahan will answer that question.
Frankly I am not happy with the use of personnel on Defense. Don't get it.
The Packages with Vonnie Holiday as our sole DL is not working. We give up to much on the ground on the all LB defensive line. There were several long runs right up the middle today. I thought we were passed that. I guess not.

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AH should have played for sure. I think Shanny has an ego that cant be f-ed with and thats a bad thing

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[quote=warpaint;749339]AH should have played for sure. I think Shanny has an ego that cant be f-ed with and thats a bad thing[/quote]

So does AH.

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[quote=mooby;749324]Absolutely not. He was perfectly in reason to do what he did. [B]I would've loved to have Haynesworth out there tonight, but Haynesworth missed practice time this week and that's what happens.[/B] Obviously it wasn't through any fault of his own that he wasn't with the team last week but it's just something that happened. And Haynesworth wasn't coming off his best game of the year, Haynesworth was coming off a week off from the game due to what happened.

I don't think this had anything to do with "prior sins." This just had to do with Haynesworth coming back on Thursday, and obviously Shanny didn't think he was ready to play. Make no mistake he'll be back in the lineup against the Bears barring injury or some other unforeseen event. I think the Bears will be a great game for him to come back to as well, he should be able to pick up right where he left off against the Bears' o-line.[/quote]Fair enough, but let's say for argument's sake that London Fletcher has a family emergency on a Wednesday and misses practice that day when the game plan is being installed. Do you think that the same rule applies? I think not.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;749341]So does AH.[/quote]

He sure does but, he is the only one that looks as good as 98. When it comes to getting pressure in the pocket.

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[quote=SouperMeister;749343]Fair enough, but let's say for argument's sake that London Fletcher has a family emergency on a Wednesday and misses practice that day when the game plan is being installed. Do you think that the same rule applies? I think not.[/quote]

Actually yeah I kinda do. If Fletch left before he had time to get the game plan down, and didn't come back till, let's say Saturday afternoon, I'd think he'd have been inactive.

But to be honest it's different. London Fletcher is a 12 year vet who's one of the hardest workers on the team, not to mention a leader. If he put in the work and showed Shanny he deserved to play, there's no saying what might've happened.

Or maybe Shanny sticks to his guns and says if you don't practice you don't play, end of story.

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[quote=Defensewins;749337]Maybe in the press conference Shanahan will answer that question.
Frankly I am not happy with the use of personnel on Defense. Don't get it.
The Packages with Vonnie Holiday as our sole DL is not working. We give up to much on the ground on the all LB defensive line. There were several long runs right up the middle today. I thought we were passed that. I guess not.[/quote]

Shanahan said he wasn't active because he missed too much time and missed the installation if the game plan

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Yeah I don't think this was personal or had anything to do with the past. It may not have been the right move in the end but it is what it is. We will need the big fella against the BEars and at least he is well rested. :)

I dont know how much of an affect he may or maynot have had against the Colts and the D we played tonight. He may have helped get us more pressure on Manning or he may not have. We will never know.

Time to move on from this topic and get him ready to play the Bears.

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Shanahan. I am glad you are here. But if you think that this team is talented enough to win the division or beat Peyton Manning without our most talented lineman, you are a ****ing joke.

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[quote=SmootSmack;749349]Shanahan said he wasn't active because he missed too much time and missed the installation if the game plan[/quote]

And Shanahan is full of shit.

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When you lose a 3 point game to the AFC Champ and you decide to have your most talented D-lineman on the bench, your honeymoon is over. Pull your ****ing head out of your a$$ Shanahan. We have a ****ing chance this year. Smarten' the f#ck up.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;749356]And Shanahan is full of shit.[/quote]

Yeah, it's not like the gameplan is installed on Wednesday or anything. :rolleyes:

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I am ****ing sick and ****ing tired of walking into games with our ****ing arm tied behind our back. Smarten the **** up.

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[quote=mooby;749358]Yeah, it's not like the gameplan is installed on Wednesday or anything. :rolleyes:[/quote]

Hey, how did that gameplan work out?

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I agree with Pocket$ $traight. How much of the gameplan does he need to know to rush the QB? He's played against the Colts plenty of times before when he was with the Titans and if nothing else he could have been used only on 3rd downs if the gameplan was so damn important.

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PER REDSKINS INSIDER

Shanahan explains Haynesworth decision
Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan said Albert Haynesworth missed too much practice time and wasn't prepared enough to help the Redskins in Sunday night's loss to Indianapolis.

Haynesworth left the team on Oct. 7, following the death of his brother, Lance McCoy, in Nashville, Tenn. He rejoined his teammates last Thursday and participated in the team's walk-through practice sessions on Thursday and Friday. But he missed practice and meetings on Wednesday, which is when the team installed its game plan, and Shanahan decided to put him on the inactive list for the game against the Colts.

"I just thought six or seven days without working out and coming in after the game plan has already been implemented, it was just a combination of both of those things," Shanahan said after Sunday night's game.

Haynesworth has been active for three of the team's six games this season. He watched Sunday's loss from a suite at FedEx Field.

Without Haynesworth in the lineup Sunday, Washington's defense allowed Indianapolis to roll up 469 yards of offense. They'll enter next week's game at Chicago again ranked last in the NFL in total defense.

The Redskins had only five defensive linemen active against Indianapolis, but they used many packages that featured six defensive backs and didn't necessarily need many big bodies up-front

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;749363]PER REDSKINS INSIDER

Shanahan explains Haynesworth decision
Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan said Albert Haynesworth missed too much practice time and wasn't prepared enough to help the Redskins in Sunday night's loss to Indianapolis.

Haynesworth left the team on Oct. 7, following the death of his brother, Lance McCoy, in Nashville, Tenn. He rejoined his teammates last Thursday and participated in the team's walk-through practice sessions on Thursday and Friday. But he missed practice and meetings on Wednesday, which is when the team installed its game plan, and Shanahan decided to put him on the inactive list for the game against the Colts.

"I just thought six or seven days without working out and coming in after the game plan has already been implemented, it was just a combination of both of those things," Shanahan said after Sunday night's game.

Haynesworth has been active for three of the team's six games this season. He watched Sunday's loss from a suite at FedEx Field.

Without Haynesworth in the lineup Sunday, Washington's defense allowed Indianapolis to roll up 469 yards of offense. They'll enter next week's game at Chicago again ranked last in the NFL in total defense.

The Redskins had only five defensive linemen active against Indianapolis, but they used many packages that featured six defensive backs and didn't necessarily need many big bodies up-front[/quote]

**** off Shanahan. You are a ****ing idiot. A real man knows when to admit when they are wrong.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;749360]Hey, how did that gameplan work out?[/quote]

You ever heard the old saying you live by the sword, you die by the sword? How that pertains to Mike Shanahan is that he either sticks to his guns for better or worse (in this case worse), or he risks losing the respect of his team. What kind of example would that set for guys if all he told them was, you have to practice in order to play, and then one guy doesn't practice but still gets to play? For right or wrong, he sticks to his guns.

Would you rather have Wade Phillips as head coach, so we could see our team lead the league in offensive/defensive yardage and lose the game because they aren't disciplined?

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[quote=53Fan;749362]I agree with Pocket$ $traight. How much of the gameplan does he need to know to rush the QB? He's played against the Colts plenty of times before when he was with the Titans and if nothing else he could have been used only on 3rd downs if the gameplan was so damn important.[/quote]

We have a ****ing chance this year.. ****... smarten' the **** up, Shanahan. ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Did you go Pockets?

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[quote=mooby;749366]You ever heard the old saying you live by the sword, you die by the sword? How that pertains to Mike Shanahan is that he either sticks to his guns for better or worse (in this case worse), or he risks losing the respect of his team. What kind of example would that set for guys if all he told them was, you have to practice in order to play, and then one guy doesn't practice but still gets to play? For right or wrong, he sticks to his guns.

Would you rather have Wade Phillips as head coach, so we could see our team lead the league in offensive/defensive yardage and lose the game because they aren't disciplined?[/quote]

The man's brother died. You really think that is a difficult ****ing argument?

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With out Shanny though Pockets, we arent in most of these games!

I do understand your frustration but at the same time this guy can lead us back to the promise land.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;749364]**** off Shanahan. You are a ****ing idiot. A real man knows when to admit when they are wrong.[/quote]

I think that he had a legit concern, as Manning could have exploited an AH who was just winging it.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;749369]The man's brother died. You really think that is a difficult ****ing argument?[/quote]

Yeah, I kinda do. As sad as that is, he told Haynesworth to take as much time as he needed, but he also didn't say, if you go 7-8 days without working out and you aren't here when the gameplan is installed, well I'll still let you play on Sunday. And you know why? Because that's not how he rolls. Quit your ****ing bitching, you big crybaby. You wouldn't be half as pissed off if McNabb had led the team down the field for a touchdown in the last 2 minutes.

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At least he would not have been in coverage. He may have been able to help here and there. I can see where he can be frustrated. On some of the 3rd and longs which we had the Colts in a few times tonight AH could have helped get us some pressure on the Manning.

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I like Shanahan. Zorn is a ****ing moron. But this handling has been a debacle from day one. I am fine with setting an example until it hurts the team

Plain and simple, sitting Haynesworth hurt the team this week. Don't believe me? Doc Walker and Brian Mitchell agree.

THIS ****IN TEAM IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR AGENDAS...

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;749371]I think that he had a legit concern, as Manning could have exploited an AH who was just winging it.[/quote]Or perhaps Haynesworth collapses the pocket a couple times allowing Orakpo or others to get hits/sacks on Manning.

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[quote=mooby;749372]Yeah, I kinda do. As sad as that is, he told Haynesworth to take as much time as he needed, but he also didn't say, if you go 7-8 days without working out and you aren't here when the gameplan is installed, well I'll still let you play on Sunday. And you know why? Because that's not how he rolls. Quit your ****ing bitching, you big crybaby. You wouldn't be half as pissed off if McNabb had led the team down the field for a touchdown in the last 2 minutes.[/quote]

How did that gameplan work out? What they would have given up 600 yards with Albert out there? Please.....

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[quote=SouperMeister;749375]Or perhaps Haynesworth collapses the pocket a couple times allowing Orakpo or others to get hits/sacks on Manning.[/quote]

I know thats right!!!!!!!!!