The official word on offensive lineman rotating in
 

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I noticed Lichtensteiger was playing a lot, but did not see an injury to an O-lineman.

Question answered.

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This is great coaching. Dock is solid as a rock but I have always felt like he should be more dominant in the running game, especially in short yardage.

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Wow. Thought, design and discipline in using O-linemen. Who'd a thunk it!

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[quote=JoeRedskin;732800]Wow. Thought, design and discipline in using O-linemen. Who'd a thunk it![/quote]


Captain Slip and Slide never did although he did catch Cooley's ankle surgery.

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On the one hand, yeah I get it. On the other, don't you want some consistency on your line so that unit can learn to play with each other and gel as one complete unit?

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Lichtensteiger should come in to replace Rabach instead of Dockery... as long as the snaps don't get screwed up because of a change in center

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When I saw Heyer in the game I thought 'oh no' is brown hurt? I was waiting for some word from the booth.

I've never heard of any pro team rotating o linemen. Most of those guys usually play the whole game even if it's a blowout.

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Hey if it keeps them fresh and it works keep it up. I think it makes them hungry to get out there. I agree with Steveo, Rabach may be a great Center mentally, but Ratcliff was just wearing him out. Thank goodness for Portis, busting him up everytime he came through.

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[quote=SmootSmack;732811]On the one hand, yeah I get it. On the other, don't you want some consistency on your line so that unit can learn to play with each other and gel as one complete unit?[/quote]

The more I think about it, you have a good point mainly because of what we are dealing with on the left side (a rookie tackle). If it were Samuels that would be one thing but it probably makes sense for Trent to know the tendencies of the guy next to him.

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When your blocking scheme is predicated on the O-Line running to the second and third levels, it probably helps to have fresh legs spell the starters every now and then. That's my two cents.

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All this revolutionary...coaching....stuff?
Anybody bounce this off Sherm lewis?

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[quote=SmootSmack;732811]On the one hand, yeah I get it. On the other, don't you want some consistency on your line so that unit can learn to play with each other and gel as one complete unit?[/quote]

One would think that with a unit thus far struggling to consistently run the ball, playing musical chairs with the o/line is not a good formula to bring about the cohesion needed. Now, if this is being done just to keep guys fresh and only for short periods then I can understand.

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[quote=Hog1;732858]All this revolutionary...coaching....stuff?
Anybody bounce this off Sherm lewis?[/quote]

Sherm Lewis was the best offensive coach we had last year.

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I hope this is just a first game situation. I dunno if I want a musical chair o-line.

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[quote=steveo395;732817]Lichtensteiger should come in to replace Rabach instead of Dockery... as long as the snaps don't get screwed up because of a change in center[/quote]

So tired of people bitching about Rabach. If you know anything about football then you'd know that blocking Ratliff one on one is going to be difficult for anyone. Rabach just isn't strong or quick enough to handle Ratliff one on one..he needs help.

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Dock really isn't a Shanahan type of o-linemen so this really doesn't surprise me. And IMO Heyer is one of the most improved guys on the team. He deserves to play some.

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All I want to know is who was in when Portis starting breaking off 15 yard runs.

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[quote=skinsfan69;732871]So tired of people bitching about Rabach. If you know anything about football then you'd know that blocking Ratliff one on one is going to be difficult for anyone. Rabach just isn't strong or quick enough to handle Ratliff one on one..he needs help.[/quote]
Finally, somebody talking sense re Rabach.

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Ratliff is a load for anyone, especially for Rabach who's a bit undersized. Overall though I thought he was fine.

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[quote=skinsfan69;732871]So tired of people bitching about Rabach. If you know anything about football then you'd know that blocking Ratliff one on one is going to be difficult for anyone. Rabach just isn't strong or quick enough to handle Ratliff one on one..he needs help.[/quote]

Is he worth the extension? Make him play out his final year and earn it.

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That's interesting man, that's f*cking interesting :)

I think Shanny has all the expertise/qualifications in the world to do whatever he damn well pleases with the offensive line. Oh ya he has history on his side too. My intuition is our line is tops as the season continues AND the offense just opens up more and more.

Should be very fun to watch all this play out. Sure I wish we had more talent at WR, but the brains on the sideline need to find a way to use the talent we have. Davis is too talented/skilled to spend more than a few plays each game on the bench. Find a way to use him!!! Cooley, Davis and Moss, and then let's see Thomas start to find his groove. These are the downfield threats...

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[quote=skinsfan69;732871]So tired of people bitching about Rabach. If you know anything about football then you'd know that blocking Ratliff one on one is going to be difficult for anyone. Rabach just isn't strong or quick enough to handle Ratliff one on one..he needs help.[/quote]

So his years of TD-killing penalties and inability to snap in the shotgun are excusable as long as he doesn't break a hip bone when blocking Fatliff?

Center should have been upgraded this offseason. Hopefully next year...

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In our trade for Jammal Brown, part of the conditions was if Brown played 90% of the offensive snaps the Saints would get a 2012 6th round draft pick. I didn't put that together with the rotations till I read a different article on VJ, but if they can sub in enough to keep Brown fresher later in the year, AND keep that draft pick because he didn't play enough snaps, then +1 to Shanahan again.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;734718]In our trade for Jammal Brown, part of the conditions was if Brown played 90% of the offensive snaps the Saints would get a 2012 6th round draft pick. I didn't put that together with the rotations till I read a different article on VJ, but if they can sub in enough to keep Brown fresher later in the year, AND keep that draft pick because he didn't play enough snaps, then +1 to Shanahan again.[/quote]

Nice, that is a really clever idea. But honestly, is sacrificing O-line consistency worth a 6th rounder? Our late draft picks this year didn't even make the team...

Here's a good article about offensive line consistency - and how it doesn't happen anymore in the NFL..
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=5207239]Offensive lines no longer built to last - ESPN[/url]

Either way, I'd much prefer just having the same guys in there for 30 games in a row. This rotation idea is probably simply he's not satisfied with the current line, and is still looking for the best fit. Basically Dock, Rabach and Hicks haven't earned their spots yet.

Hope we get it together soon. Consistency can't happen until we draft good young kids in there, but when we do -- THAT'S a winning formula.

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[quote=ethat001;734806]Nice, that is a really clever idea. But honestly, is sacrificing O-line consistency worth a 6th rounder? Our late draft picks this year didn't even make the team...

Here's a good article about offensive line consistency - and how it doesn't happen anymore in the NFL..
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=5207239]Offensive lines no longer built to last - ESPN[/url]

Either way, I'd much prefer just having the same guys in there for 30 games in a row. This rotation idea is probably simply he's not satisfied with the current line, and is still looking for the best fit. Basically Dock, Rabach and Hicks haven't earned their spots yet.

Hope we get it together soon. Consistency can't happen until we draft good young kids in there, but when we do -- THAT'S a winning formula.[/quote]

If we can make it garbage time for an opponent by blowing them out, I wouldn't mind Heyer taking the garbage reps if that means holding onto a pick. Clever indeed.

I think if they end up going to an 18 game season you may see even more rotating lines. Its kind of like hockey's line changes, if you develop a consistent line rotation then u may be seeing the next evolution in offensive schemes (not that I am drinking the kool-aid or anything)

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Since the O-line is one of the most oft injured positions I like having early season confidence in the back-ups by seeing if they have the ability to come in on a key drive in an away game and not make mistakes.