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Leader In Sports 08-25-2010 01:46 PM

Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
Can you believe that he doesn't even have Art Monk on the list?

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1008/nfl.posnanski.32.great.receivers/content.1.html]Jerry Rice - Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers - Photos - SI.com[/url]

InsaneBoost 08-25-2010 01:48 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
Doesn't surprise me, seems like everyone leaves him out, would really love to know why.

GMScud 08-25-2010 01:51 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
[quote=Leader In Sports;723829]Can you believe that he doesn't even have Art Monk on the list?

[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1008/nfl.posnanski.32.great.receivers/content.1.html"]Jerry Rice - Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers - Photos - SI.com[/URL][/quote]

Belitnikoff at 25 but Don Maynard at #2? LOL. Also, he calls the list Top 32 all time receivers, yet he has Kellen Winslow, Tony Gonzalez, Shannon Sharpe and Ozzie Newsome on here? If that's the case at least call the list "top pass-catchers." What a garbage list.

12thMan 08-25-2010 01:53 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
I think people tend to look at Art Monk through different a lens than a Redskin fan would. Out of 32 possible all-time greats, I'm with you, I don't see how Art Monk doesn't make the bottom 15, at least.

Still, I have no problem with the 32 he did choose. I probably would throw a John Jefferson in there somewhere though.

12thMan 08-25-2010 01:56 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
I was surprised to see T.O make it that damn high. For goodness sake, put down the Kool Aid man.

12thMan 08-25-2010 01:59 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
Also consider two Redskins did make the list: Charlie Taylor and Bobby Mitchell. So it's unlikely that he'd throw a third on there.

GMScud 08-25-2010 02:01 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
[quote=12thMan;723832]I think people tend to look at Art Monk through different a lens than a Redskin fan would. Out of 32 possible all-time greats, I'm with you, I don't see how Art Monk doesn't make the bottom 15, at least.

Still, I have no problem with the 32 he did choose. I probably would throw a John Jefferson in there somewhere though.[/quote]

I have a big issue with Lynn Swan being on everyone's lists and in the Hall of Fame. Yes, he made a few spectacular catches in the playoffs during his career. He also has a total of 336 career catches. Sheesh, Brandon Marshall and Andre Johnson have just about that much over the past three seasons.

skinsfan69 08-25-2010 02:17 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
[quote=GMScud;723836]I have a big issue with Lynn Swan being on everyone's lists and in the Hall of Fame. Yes, he made a few spectacular catches in the playoffs during his career. He also has a total of 336 career catches. Sheesh, Brandon Marshall and Andre Johnson have just about that much over the past three seasons.[/quote]

Swann made his big catches on the biggest stage and he also played in a totally different era. Can't compare numbers to guys that played in the 70's against guys in today's pass happy league.

12thMan 08-25-2010 02:18 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
Totally agree with you about Swanny. He pretty much got in on style points and playing on all those Super Bowl teams. Wow, 336 catches is nothing nowadays.

MTK 08-25-2010 02:18 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
Lame list overall.

skinsfan69 08-25-2010 02:20 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
[quote=12thMan;723834]I was surprised to see T.O make it that damn high. For goodness sake, put down the Kool Aid man.[/quote]

C'mon, TO may be a drama queen pain in the ass but you simply can not deny his talent. Yeah he doesn't have the best hands but his numbers speak for themselves. Isn't he in the top 5 all time for TD's? First ballot Hall of Famer.

skinsfaninok 08-25-2010 02:20 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
Moss should be 2, Largent 3 imo.. And I don't know why ppl always count Monk out? It's really mind boggling

skinsfaninok 08-25-2010 02:25 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Monk]Art Monk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

How is Charley Taylor ahead of Monk????

GTripp0012 08-25-2010 02:28 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
Should point out that the list is "32 Great Receivers" not "32 Greatest Receivers" and so some have a reading comprehension issue. To argue against someone on the list, you'd have to argue that they weren't a great receiver. Which, in Swann's case, is likely true.

But yeah, Art Monk is one of the 32 greatest receivers of all time, and probably would be on the top half of such a list.

MTK 08-25-2010 02:37 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
[quote=GTripp0012;723847]Should point out that the list is "32 Great Receivers" not "32 Greatest Receivers" and so some have a reading comprehension issue. To argue against someone on the list, you'd have to argue that they weren't a great receiver. Which, in Swann's case, is likely true.

But yeah, Art Monk is one of the 32 greatest receivers of all time, and probably would be on the top half of such a list.[/quote]

It's actually "Top 32 All-Time Receivers" if we're keeping score.

SFREDSKIN 08-25-2010 02:40 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;723845][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Monk]Art Monk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

How is Charley Taylor ahead of Monk????[/quote]

How about Randy moss, Raymond Berry, Steve Largent, etc. ahead of Monk [B]who's not even listed[/B]. [B]BULLSHIT list!![/B] Monk was as good as Rice, he didn't have 2 HOF QB's throwing to him nor did he play twice against NO, Atlanta and The Rams (wow, what an amazing list of power teams during the 80's). I'm sick of all this moron's (writers who think they know everything). What would have Monk accomplished if he had Montana and Young throwing to him in a passing offense? The Redskins were primarily a running Offense. I'm sick of this BS lists.

GMScud 08-25-2010 02:42 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
[quote=Mattyk;723852]It's actually "Top 32 All-Time Receivers" if we're keeping score.[/quote]

LOL. Who's got the reading comprehension issue now? :)

Slingin Sammy 33 08-25-2010 02:55 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
Another BS list to generate web hits. Emphasis on recent players with inflated numbers. Credibility of the list goes to shit when Art Monk is left off.

How are these guys also left off:
Irving Fryar - about 13K yds, 84TDs, 5 Pro Bowls
Harold Carmichael - 6' 7" TD machine, about 9K yds, 79TDs, 4 Pro Bowls
Charlie Hennigan - #2 & #8 all-time Yds per Game / per season.....in the early 1960s, YPG/season #13 all-time, 5 Pro Bowls
Art Powell - 7 effective years playing, over 1000 yds/season 5 times....in the 1960s, 4 Pro Bowls

This list :vomit:

Slingin Sammy 33 08-25-2010 02:59 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;723845][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Monk"]Art Monk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL]

How is Charley Taylor ahead of Monk????[/quote]Charley Taylor was a more dominant receiver in his era than Art Monk. He was a top 5 receiver all-time IMO. He played before the illegal contact rules went into effect in the late 70s.

skinsfan69 08-25-2010 03:21 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;723853]How about Randy moss, Raymond Berry, Steve Largent, etc. ahead of Monk [B]who's not even listed[/B]. [B]BULLSHIT list!![/B] Monk was as good as Rice, he didn't have 2 HOF QB's throwing to him nor did he play twice against NO, Atlanta and The Rams (wow, what an amazing list of power teams during the 80's). I'm sick of all this moron's (writers who think they know everything). What would have Monk accomplished if he had Montana and Young throwing to him in a passing offense? The Redskins were primarily a running Offense. I'm sick of this BS lists.[/quote]

Sorry SFRedskin. As much as I love Monk he simply was not the WR Jerry Rice was. He had monster games with Steve Bono and Rich Gannon throwing him the ball. Hard to argue that Rice simply was the best wr of all time.

SmootSmack 08-25-2010 03:38 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
[quote=skinsfan69;723869]Sorry SFRedskin. As much as I love Monk he simply was not the WR Jerry Rice was. He had monster games with Steve Bono and Rich Gannon throwing him the ball. Hard to argue that Rice simply was the best wr of all time.[/quote]

Agreed and you can't dismiss Moss or Berry either

SFREDSKIN 08-25-2010 03:41 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
[quote=skinsfan69;723869]Sorry SFRedskin. As much as I love Monk he simply was not the WR Jerry Rice was. He had monster games with Steve Bono and Rich Gannon throwing him the ball. Hard to argue that Rice simply was the best wr of all time.[/quote]

I've watched every game played by Rice here in SF and Monk, Rice was faster and [B]played in a weak ass division accumulating stats especially against NO and Atlanta.[/B] To me (u can call me a homer) Rice was no better than Monk. I bet Monk had better stats against the 49ers than Rice had against the skins. Monk never whined "give me the ball" and throw tantrums like Rice used to do. Rice reminds me of Harold Jackson (Rams) great player, fast.

GTripp0012 08-25-2010 11:40 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
[quote=Mattyk;723852]It's actually "Top 32 All-Time Receivers" if we're keeping score.[/quote][url=http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/08/11/thirty-two-great-receivers/]Joe Posnanski » Blog Archive » Thirty Two Great Receivers[/url]

[quote]OK, so I should warn you up front that 32 can be a constricting number. There are a LOT of great receivers who did not make this list — John Mackey, Tommy McDonald, Tom Fears, Charlie Sanders, Charlie Joyner, Jimmy Smith, Rod Smith, Wes Chandler, Harold Jackson, Henry Ellard, Lionel Taylor, Rod Smith, Chad Ochocinco [U]and Art Monk just to name a few[/U]. You can certainly take some guys off and put others on. You can certainly mess with the order.

But, I think you will find that 32 is not an especially large number when you’re choosing great receivers … there have been more awesome receivers than awesome running backs, for instance. Anyway, the list is the list … it’s all for entertainment purposes.[/quote]

GTripp0012 08-25-2010 11:51 PM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
If the OP linked to a bunch of pictures instead of an actual article, that would explain a reading comprehension issue ;)

My apologies for the faulty assumption.

gafinfan 08-26-2010 06:29 AM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
[quote=Mattyk;723842]Lame list overall.[/quote]

Must agree as several better WR's left off his list, the most glaring imho is Jimmy Orr.

RedskinsfaninBaltimore 08-27-2010 10:17 AM

Re: Joe Posnanski's Top 32 All-Time Receivers
 
[quote=12thMan;723835]Also consider two Redskins did make the list: Charlie Taylor and Bobby Mitchell. So it's unlikely that he'd throw a third on there.[/quote]


Don't we consider Monk superior to Taylor and Mitchell? :/


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