Shanahan: Williams is a natural for zone-blocking scheme
 

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[url=http://blog.redskins.com/2010/04/22/coach-mike-shanahan-discusses-trent-williams-on-redskins-nation/]Coach Mike Shanahan Discusses Trent Williams On Redskins Nation[/url]

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just finished reading this myself, this is exactly why I like this pick.

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I like the pick for system reasons (as well as potential). The Utah Jazz took Deron Williams over Chris Paul a few years ago- many were scratching their heads. Turns out the system method works (Paul is still a stud PG, though... just may not have fit Sloan's team).

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I wanted to just repost this because the similarities to Ryan Clady are interesting. I think the main difference is that Clady was a little taller with slightly longer arms. However at the same time both Wiliams and Clady were athletic types that were soft in the middle.
[quote][B]Clady is also versatile[/B], being able to play on the left or the right. With very good technique, he does needsto add strength especially on his lower body).[B] He also needs to work harder in the weight room,[/B] as well as working on his run blocking mechanics.

Clady is a[B] top ten talent. [/B][B]Although Jake Long is the top tackle prospect[/B] in this year's draft, [B]Clady has the higher pro ceiling.[/B] He is a [B]terrific athlete[/B], but is [B]still learning the position.[/B] On [B]talent alone, he is above Joe Thomas[/B] (last year's top drafted tackle). A top pick for sure, Clady has the ability to contribute right away. He could anchor an offensive line for years.[/quote]

Obviously the buzz words are highlighted but as you can see like Clady, Williams has the best upside, most athletic talent, he's versitle, and has had some problems in the weight room.

Honestly I was a little on the fence about Williams especially compared to Okung but seeing how favorably he compares to Clady makes me feel a lot better about the pick. Now I'm going to enjoy the screams of the "OKUNGGGGGGG!!!!!!!" tribe.

@itvnetop - Love your quote.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;692828]I wanted to just repost this because the similarities to Ryan Clady are interesting. I think the main difference is that Clady was a little taller with slightly longer arms. However at the same time both Wiliams and Clady were athletic types that were soft in the middle.


Obviously the buzz words are highlighted but as you can see like Clady, Williams has the best upside, most athletic talent, he's versitle, and has had some problems in the weight room.

Honestly I was a little on the fence about Williams especially compared to Okung but seeing how favorably he compares to Clady makes me feel a lot better about the pick. Now I'm going to enjoy the screams of the "OKUNGGGGGGG!!!!!!!" tribe.[/quote]

Well you can now scream "SILVERBAAAAACK!!" (and it's approved by the Commish) :)

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[quote=Ruhskins;692829]Well you can now scream "SILVERBAAAAACK!!" (and it's approved by the Commish) :)[/quote]

That was pretty cool. Like I said before I like "Gorilla" better (theres also a way to say it that I can't really articulate in text, I guess caveman is the best way to describe it.) as it seems to roll off the tongue but if he plays to his potential I'll call him whatever he wants to be called. Still I guess in the end it's just nice to know that we have a young Tackle.

In the meantime I will practice screaming "SILVERRRRBACKKKKK!" Also nice to know there will be no fines for the nickname.

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I'm very happy with this pick. Now we have a LT for years to come.. So when does jc get moved?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;692837]I'm very happy with this pick. Now we have a LT for years to come.. So when does jc get moved?[/quote]

After Clausen and McCoy go I would say.

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I felt if TW went anywhere, we would get the most production out of him, seeing how Shanahan turned Clady into an All-Pro. The kid might not be as motivated as Okung, but I think if the O-line coach can push him and he listens to Samuels he will be a better pro than Okung.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;692832]That was pretty cool. Like I said before I like "Gorilla" better (theres also a way to say it that I can't really articulate in text, I guess caveman is the best way to describe it.) as it seems to roll off the tongue but if he plays to his potential I'll call him whatever he wants to be called. Still I guess in the end it's just nice to know that we have a young Tackle.

In the meantime I will practice screaming "SILVERRRRBACKKKKK!" Also nice to know there will be no fines for the nickname.[/quote]
3 syllable words/names/phrases make for the best chants

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Buffalo is w/o a plan at QB, might meet the price of a third rounder for Campbell.

I would, if I could, try to pick in both the 2nd and 3rd round. I think we can probably get high enough to get McCoy with that 2011 first rounder, and I'm thinking Campbell can probably net a third at this point.

Go from no picks tomorrow to two like that.

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[quote=vallin21;692840][B]I felt if TW went anywhere, we would get the most production out of him[/B], seeing how Shanahan turned Clady into an All-Pro. The kid might not be as motivated as Okung, but I think if the O-line coach can push him and he listens to Samuels he will be a better pro than Okung.[/quote]

I personally felt that way about a lot of offensive players we were considering including Clausen and Bradford. Okung I felt was one of those few players along with McClain that I think will be successful no matter where they go. I hope that Suh and McCoy develop, as both of them are high character guys but DT's do have a high bust rate.

[quote=tryfuhl;692842]3 syllable words/names/phrases make for the best chants[/quote]

Thats true.

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Yeah, I'm starting to feel better about this pick. Hope we can motivate this dude to hit the weight room and work his butt off. Maybe Shanahan & Allen will be able to slip in a bunch of incentives into the contract.

And we can still pick up free agents for left or right tackle and fill Williams in the other spot. Versatility is invaluable. Anyone for Flozell??

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[quote=skinsfaninok;692837]I'm very happy with this pick. Now we have a LT for years to come.. So when does jc get moved?[/quote]

Maybe the Bills? They were heartbroken that Tebow went to Denver per Rich Eisen (sp?) They can still get McCoy or Clausen but can't be to high on them if they were really trying to trade into the 1st again to get Tebow.

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[quote=ethat001;692847]Yeah, I'm starting to feel better about this pick. Hope we can motivate this dude to hit the weight room and work his butt off. Maybe Shanahan & Allen will be able to slip in a bunch of incentives into the contract.

And we can still pick up free agents for left or right tackle and fill Williams in the other spot. Versatility is invaluable. [B]Anyone for Flozell??[/B][/quote]

Ehhh. Lets see if we can't get GTripp's guy, Edwin Veldheer (T Hillsdale) when we pick in the 4th.

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[quote=vallin21;692840]I felt if TW went anywhere, we would get the most production out of him, seeing how Shanahan turned Clady into an All-Pro. The kid might not be as motivated as Okung, but I think if the O-line coach can push him and he listens to Samuels he will be a better pro than Okung.[/quote]

Very possible. He could be a beast in this scheme.

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You know what's a weird strategy, identifying a need on your team and drafting to fill that need. It is really an alien concept around here.

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[quote=vallin21;692840]I felt if TW went anywhere, we would get the most production out of him, seeing how Shanahan turned Clady into an All-Pro. The kid might not be as motivated as Okung, but I think if the O-line coach can push him and [B]he listens to Samuels[/B] he will be a better pro than Okung.[/quote]Don't underestimate the value of Samuels as a mentor for Williams.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;692854]You know what's a weird strategy, identifying a need on your team and drafting to fill that need. It is really an alien concept around here.[/quote]

It's effective to a point. For example the way we did it tonight was a more then acceptable way to fill a need through the draft. The way the Jags did it....not so much.

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Congratulations to Allen & Shanahan for having just finished making their 1st (and so far) only draft pick for the Washington Redskins. If the coaching staff is happy with the selection then who am I to disagree? I'm glad he's a player they feel fits their scheme and hope he can be as successful as the man he's replacing.

If they like him, I love him....right position, right player!!

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He also has his High School and College Teammates to get him focused. I grew up near Longveiw and like any small town in Texas their is a real since of family and Im glad he has 3 teammates from their so his transition goes smooth.

Texans make the best football players.

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Whether it's the tackle people want or not it's refreshing to see that we're picking guys that aren't just very good at their position, but fit in with what we need, something we haven't seen for awhile.

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[quote=warpaint;692867]
Texans make the best football players.[/quote]

Unless they play for Dallas.

[quote=SouperMeister;692855]Don't underestimate the value of Samuels as a mentor for Williams.[/quote]

Is he really going to be around that much? I'm more worried about Forestor not succeeding as our line coach and then having us going out and getting Tom Cable as our O-Line coach. God knows he isn't going to survive after this season. The Rolando McClain pick is the first sign that a competent person is running the Raiders.

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Back from when the draft was "normal-time"
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[quote=Dirtbag359;692870]Back from when the draft was "normal-time"[/quote]

I got you man!

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[quote=tryfuhl;692871]I got you man!

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Ha ha, ummm yeah I totally got that right. But if you makes feel, uh, better, then, uh. Thanks. I didn't realize until afterwards. Ironically though Clady looked HORRIBLE in that highlight film and now he's among the leagues elite tackles. Williams seems like a much more promising prospect.

Alright hopefully I get this one right. It really is amazing though how well he moves:
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Good job Redskins!

You didn't f**k it up :D

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag359;692869]Unless they play for Dallas.
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Yeah F**K Dallas. You seen they picked Dez Bryant(Texas Failure), just because Randy Moss was past on so long ago . Talking about having blinders on S.Bradford and D.Bryant didnt even play this year but they go so high go figure.

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[quote=warpaint;692878]
Yeah F**K Dallas. You seen they picked Dez Bryant(Texas Failure), just because Randy Moss was past on so long ago . Talking about having blinders on S.Bradford and D.Bryant didnt even play this year but they go so high go figure.[/quote]

Arizona is the only team I've really been able to see that stocked up on pass catchers and received any real benefit. Dez Bryant is basically a locker room time bomb. Now personally I consider Ray Lewis a bomb disposal expert so if Baltimore had selected him then that would have been a great pick, but put him in a Dallas locker room that just got over not having T.O. there and you hopefully have a locker room implosion. Of course if he develops it'll be dangerous for us, but I'm hoping for another Charles Rogers.

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[quote=warpaint;692878]Yeah F**K Dallas. You seen they picked Dez Bryant(Texas Failure), just because Randy Moss was past on so long ago . Talking about having blinders on S.Bradford and D.Bryant didnt even play this year but they go so high go figure.[/quote]

I like it how very few people are mentioning that basically Jones has given up on Roy Williams and we can call that trade a colossal failure.

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[quote=Ruhskins;692880]I like it how very few people are mentioning that basically Jones has given up on Roy Williams and we can call that trade a colossal failure.[/quote]

Yeah, Jerry Jones just needs one more stamp on his draft card to qualify for Matt Millen status.

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[B]Todd McShay:[/B]

Best fits
Here are the five players who landed with teams that give them the best opportunity to maximize what they do best.

1. Gerald McCoy, DT, Tampa Bay (No. 3 overall)
2. Trent Williams, OT, Washington (No. 4)
3. Maurkice Pouncey, G/C, Pittsburgh (No. 18)
4. Bryan Bulaga, OT, Green Bay (No. 23)
5. Dan Williams, DT, Arizona (No. 26)

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[quote=Ruhskins;692839]After Clausen and McCoy go I would say.[/quote]

I wish the Redskins had traded Haynesworth to the Saints for the 32nd pick and then drafted Clausen.

Fat Albert would have helped the Saints more than a rookie ? cornerback.

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[quote=internetcareer;692888][B]I wish the Redskins had traded Haynesworth to the Saints for the 32nd pick and then drafted Clausen.[/B]

Fat Albert would have helped the Saints more than a rookie ? cornerback.[/quote]

Yeah, but that wasn't likely to happen. As for the Saints pick, they needed another CB. They were ranked 25th in total yards (357.8) and 26th in pass yds (235.6)

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Trent Williams's Madden attributes should be off the charts. The more I think about this guy, the more I like him. His versatility pretty much ensures that he'll start somewhere on the OL. And he projects to be a solid NFL OT.

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[quote=diehard;692892]Trent Williams's Madden attributes should be off the charts. The more I think about this guy, the more I like him. His versatility pretty much ensures that he'll start somewhere on the OL. And he projects to be a solid NFL OT.[/quote]

Nice to see you coming around :)

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I'm really impressed with Malcolm Kelly taking younger guys under his wing too. Go Skins!

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[quote=diehard;692892]Trent Williams's Madden attributes should be off the charts. The more I think about this guy, the more I like him. His versatility pretty much ensures that he'll start somewhere on the OL. And he projects to be a solid NFL OT.[/quote]

What happened to the he's a thug talk, a holdout with poor work habits, he'll be a pro wrestler in 3 years, blah blah blah

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[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/trent-williams/the-story-behind-trent-william.html]Redskins Insider - The story behind Trent Williams' nickname and Roger Goodell's introduction[/url]

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[quote=internetcareer;692888]I wish the Redskins had traded Haynesworth to the Saints for the 32nd pick and then drafted Clausen.

Fat Albert would have helped the Saints more than a rookie ? cornerback.[/quote]


And Godzilla will help us more than Big Love.