Fences to Mend?
 

As you all know Albert Haynesworth was discussed in the trade for Donovan McNabb and the Eagles wanted nothing to do with it. Also according to ESPN Insider Laron Landry was also discussed in trade talks. How do you guys feel the Redskins are going to approach this since everyone knows Haynesworth is not scared of speaking his mind. Same for Laron?

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Eff both of them.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;683299]Eff both of them.[/quote]


I agree with something you said! Incredible.

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This is a business. This is part of the business.
No need to mend fences.
I am not sure how much is fact and how much is rumor when it comes to who was offered.

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[quote=tdSKINS1;683297]As you all know Albert Haynesworth was discussed in the trade for Donovan McNabb and the Eagles wanted nothing to do with it. Also according to ESPN Insider Laron Landry was also discussed in trade talks. How do you guys feel the Redskins are going to approach this since everyone knows Haynesworth is not scared of speaking his mind. Same for Laron?[/quote]

Personally, I do not think Shannahan or Haslett have any loyalty to Haynesworth, and basically picture him as an overpaid slacker who is standoffish with authority.

I think Shanahan gives two shits what Haynesworth thinks. Like it or not, he is a pawn in Shanahans plans to get to where he wants to be, in the SuperBowl. If he doesn't like it, then he can go complain about it to his offseason personal trainer who is so good, even after his regimine, you still have to take breathers after two plays.

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Let them say what they want. Allen and Shanahan were not brought in to play nice, but to do whatever it takes to make this a winning franchise again. They don't owe anyone on the roster anything.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;683299]Eff both of them.[/quote]
Crystalized my thoughts eloquently. And I'll add....both need to get with the program, keep their mouths shut and play.

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That's life in the NFL. I don't see it as a huge deal that both sides can't move on from.

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[quote=Mechanix544;683306]Personally, I do not think Shannahan or Haslett have any loyalty to Haynesworth, and basically picture him as an overpaid slacker who is standoffish with authority.

I think Shanahan gives two shits what Haynesworth thinks. Like it or not, he is a pawn in Shanahans plans to get to where he wants to be, in the SuperBowl. If he doesn't like it, then he can go complain about it to his offseason personal trainer who is so good, even after his regimine, you still have to take breathers after two plays.[/quote]

That's what I'm talking about. Man Eff Haynesworth. He's on his back huffing and puffing like a cheap tart on every other play. Personal trainer, more like personal chef. Landry has been tarnished in my eyes since getting beasted on MNF. Those big guns didn't seem to help him much then, ha! Trade Landry for a grilled cheese, Haynesworth for a glazed ham, and CP for a pack of Kools.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;683299]Eff both of them.[/quote]

Amen brother! These guys are pros and thats part of the game.

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They should trade Al out of the division if they want to get rid of him. Even a lazy Al was OWNING Dockery in TC last preseason and I doubt Rabach pinching in on the double team would provide much help.

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I think the media (i.e. ESPN980) is making a bigger deal than AH or Landry are. Honestly, it is a non-story in my opinion.

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if we could trade AH for a top 40 pick or an under-28 starting-caliber lineman, i would be a very happy camper.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;683343]if we could trade AH for a top 40 pick or an under-28 starting-caliber lineman, i would be a very happy camper.[/quote]

Deal

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[quote=Defensewins;683305]This is a business. This is part of the business.
No need to mend fences.
I am not sure how much is fact and how much is rumor when it comes to who was offered.[/quote]

Exactly. This is a business, and theres no crying in football!

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Hard to imagine someone else wanting Haynesworth with that contract he's under.

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[quote=JLW428;683348]Exactly. This is a business, and theres no crying in football![/quote]

I don't get all of the AH and Landry hate. Neither of them has said a word about the RUMOR that they were offered as trade bait.
So did someone from the Eagles or Redskins confirm they were offered or is it some moron reporter trying to get on TV? Just wondering if this is based on fact or rumor?

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[quote=JLW428;683348]Exactly. This is a business, and theres no crying in football![/quote]

Dick Vermeil would beg to differ

:)

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[quote=Mattyk;683351]Hard to imagine someone else wanting Haynesworth with that contract he's under.[/quote]

why? we've already paid him 40 of the 42M he's garaunteed. he's very affordable (relatively speaking) for the next 3 years.

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All I can say is it speaks VOLUMES on the way they feel about Haynesworth if they attempted to trade him only one year after signing him.

-OR- the more likely scenario>>>>>>>

Hey, it is a non-cap season and a perfect time to shed away lots of lingering dollars. Maybe the decision was purely financial?

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;683314]That's what I'm talking about. Man Eff Haynesworth. He's on his back huffing and puffing like a cheap tart on every other play. Personal trainer, more like personal chef. Landry has been tarnished in my eyes since getting beasted on MNF. Those big guns didn't seem to help him much then, ha! Trade Landry for a grilled cheese, Haynesworth for a glazed ham, and CP for a pack of Kools.[/quote]

I laughed out loud when I read the last part of this post, good stuff. I agree with you, Haynesworth has basically stolen $$ from us and for him not to participate in our training program is a slap in Shanny's face. I love this guys hard nose approach that no one is untouchable. If we could get some picks out of Portis, JC and Landry, I say pull the trigger. It would be even better if we could drop AH's fat ass, but that is unlikely.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;683369]why? we've already paid him 40 of the 42M he's garaunteed. he's very affordable (relatively speaking) for the next 3 years.[/quote]

His numbers the next 3 years are $8.8M, $10.6M, $12.4M.

Not sure I'd call him very affordable. Those are big chunks to go along with a guy that doesn't have the best reputation and tends to get banged up.

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[quote=tdSKINS1;683297]As you all know Albert Haynesworth was discussed in the trade for Donovan McNabb and the Eagles wanted nothing to do with it. Also according to ESPN Insider Laron Landry was also discussed in trade talks. How do you guys feel the Redskins are going to approach this since everyone knows Haynesworth is not scared of speaking his mind. Same for Laron?[/quote]

I don't know. AH and the HC appeared to agree to dissagree on work out regimin. If AH wants to be with the team he'd be here working out. Instead he's taking his work ethic elsewhere which pissed off the HC.

No harm in sending the love right back at AH. Right? Piss him off maybe he'll work harder. Especially knowing the Eagles wanted no parts of him. It would atleast make me want to tear them apart next year to say see what you didn't want.

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[quote=Mattyk;683387]His numbers the next 3 years are $8.8M, $10.6M, $12.4M.

Not sure I'd call him very affordable. Those are big chunks to go along with a guy that doesn't have the best reputation and tends to get banged up.[/quote]

i think those numbers accurately reflect Haynesworth's value in the NFL. If anything, i'd say his 2010 and 2011 numbers are a little light for one of the leagues top pass-rushers.

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[quote=SBXVII;683395][B]I don't know. AH and the HC appeared to agree to dissagree on work out regimin. If AH wants to be with the team he'd be here working out. Instead he's taking his work ethic elsewhere which pissed off the HC. [/B]

No harm in sending the love right back at AH. Right? Piss him off maybe he'll work harder. Especially knowing the Eagles wanted no parts of him. It would atleast make me want to tear them apart next year to say see what you didn't want.[/quote]

I honestly feel that this is being blown WAYYYY out of proportion. I mean when Shawn Springs disappeared during voluntary workouts, the team couldn't even reach him by phone. I'm not saying that the Shanny and AH are pals, but it's not the drama that the media is creating.

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[quote=Ruhskins;683403]I honestly feel that this is being blown WAYYYY out of proportion. I mean when Shawn Springs disappeared during voluntary workouts, the team couldn't even reached him. I'm not saying that the Shanny and AH are pals, but it's not the drama that the media is creating.[/quote]

I agree.

AH was on the table simply because he's one of our most valuable chips to bargain with, not because Shanahan is holding a silly grudge over offseason workouts.

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[quote=Defensewins;683354]I don't get all of the AH and Landry hate. Neither of them has said a word about the RUMOR that they were offered as trade bait.
So did someone from the Eagles or Redskins confirm they were offered or is it some moron reporter trying to get on TV? Just wondering if this is based on fact or rumor?[/quote]

They were. But to be clear it was NOT Landry and Haynesworth for McNabb

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;683343]if we could trade AH for a top 40 pick or an under-28 starting-caliber lineman, i would be a very happy camper.[/quote]
I'll offer you whatever the current Lady Gaga single is

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[quote=jlw428;683348]exactly. This is a business, and theres no crying in football![/quote]
that's my quarterback!

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[quote=tryfuhl;683421]I'll offer you whatever the current Lady Gaga single is[/quote]

It's called, [I]I'm a whacked-out whore on drugs[/I]. Or maybe that was Amy Wino's new one?

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[quote=Mattyk;683351]Hard to imagine someone else wanting Haynesworth with that contract he's under.[/quote]

I wonder, is there any sub-30 yr old o lineman out there with a similarly ridiculous contract that maybe because of scheme or whatever, doesn't fit in with his current team? That's really the only way I can see us moving Haynesworth, if we can swap equally ridiculous contracts...

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;683426]It's called, [I]I'm a whacked-out whore on drugs[/I]. Or maybe that was Amy Wino's new one?[/quote]
ft Courney Love, written by Britney Spears

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Both guys are underachievers on a 4-12 team. No fences need to be mended.

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[quote=Defensewins;683354]I don't get all of the AH and Landry hate. Neither of them has said a word about the RUMOR that they were offered as trade bait.
So did someone from the Eagles or Redskins confirm they were offered or is it some moron reporter trying to get on TV? Just wondering if this is based on fact or rumor?[/quote]

I'm not hating on either of them. As for the rumor about the trade, I was just assuming this thread was credible. From there I made the point that if it is, neither of the two should have hard feelings, nor should the Redskins try to mend any fences. Why? Because this is a business, and there is no crying in football.

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[quote=Mattyk;683364]Dick Vermeil would beg to differ

:)[/quote]

Haha.

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I think this might have been a warning shot. Seems like someone wanted the world to know that they offered the two in a trade. Weather they were serious or not remains to be seen, however I feel like it's possible that they had no real intention of trading them rather sending a message to the team and Landry/Haynesworth that they can be moved. I'm not big on conspiracy theories, hate them in fact, but with Shanahan/Allen I wouldn't doubt that this was more of a warning shot then an actual offer.

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[quote=Mechanix544;683306]Personally, I do not think Shannahan or Haslett have any loyalty to Haynesworth, and basically picture him as an overpaid slacker who is standoffish with authority.

I think Shanahan gives two shits what Haynesworth thinks. Like it or not, he is a pawn in Shanahans plans to get to where he wants to be, in the SuperBowl. If he doesn't like it, then he can go complain about it to his offseason personal trainer who is so good, even after his regimine, you still have to take breathers after two plays.[/quote]


Love it when someone just tells it like it is. Haynesworth won't earn a quarter of what he is being paid here and isn't a 3-4 guy so he is trade bait for sure. Right now I would trade him and throw in Landry and Campbell in just to get rid of them. Of course I would want a few mid round picks for them.

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Stubblefield, Wilkinson, Haynesworth, next...

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[quote=Dirtbag359;683477]I think this might have been a warning shot. Seems like someone wanted the world to know that they offered the two in a trade. Weather they were serious or not remains to be seen, however [B]I feel like it's possible that they had no real intention of trading them rather sending a message to the team and Landry/Haynesworth that they can be moved[/B]. I'm not big on conspiracy theories, hate them in fact, but with Shanahan/Allen I wouldn't doubt that this was more of a warning shot then an actual offer.[/quote]

I don't get the sense that Shanny and Allen are playing games in order to send a veiled message to the players. They seem like direct people to me. In short, I think they did offer AH and Landry in trade scenarios.

I think the kind of message they would send would go something like this: "You've been traded".

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Am i the only sane person here? I can't believe that the first response to this thead was "Eff both of them" !?!?!

Landry's effectiveness was hindered by him not playing the position he is best at. Albert's performance was also hindered due to the system, and in SPITE if that fact he contributed to the only bright side to our ugly season. If you don't attribute Albert's contribution to Orakpo's stunning rookie season and Andre Carter's 'awakening' then you aren't paying attention.

We have nobody better than Landry in his position and we WONT get one in the draft. (with what we need, we BETTER not get one in the draft). As a matter of fact, Landry is better at EITHER safety position than either of the guys we have!

Eff them!?! What, did you not watch us get ran over without Albert? Remember the second Cowboys game? They practicaly DARED us to stop them. They ran right up the middle like 12 times in one possesion!?!? They were like "EFF YALLS LINE!" and bowlin' fools over!

You guys are so fickle. You guys throw skinz under the bus more than Portis ever did. At least Portis talked bad about people that actually $uck! Like Sellers, who's run blocking skills is gone and who fumbled away our win against the Saints and other teams. Who else did he trash... Oh yeah... ZORN!! How DARE he! Worn is the best coach ever! His playcalling skills are unquestionable! His powerful stern leadership rivals the greats through history!

You guys make me ashamed to pull out my Redskins wallet whenever i pay for things. I pull out the wallet and now i'm gonna think people will think I'm one of you fools who will dump on a QB that compares to McNabb with worse receivers, worse line, worse coaching, retarded playcalling, and little help from punk @$$ turncoat fans. Throw dirt on a HB right after a probowl year and call him old while having RIGGINS as the man when he was old as DIRT when he was drillin' fools over! A man comes to a team that had several games without sacks one year and puts a man on each side of him into the DOUBLE DIGITS and you call him FAT ALBERT and are ready to trade him AS IF ANYONE WILL PAY A BAJILLION BUCKS FOR HIM !?!??!

You bunch of ... UGH!!

I bet you guys sleep real good in your Dallas Cowboys Snuggies and your pink Tony Romo jerseys...

Yall don't know football