ESPN's NFL Live: Monk should be in the HOF
 

they were just talking about the new candidates for the Hall Of Fame & said that Art Monk should already be in.

No disagreements here. I think it's a joke he's not.

I agree. Unfortunatley, I dont think he'll get in for at least another few years, because of all the first ballot guys that are coming up. The day he goes in, will be the first time I'll actually watch the hall of fame ceremony.

Russ Grimm and Joe Jacoby are also on the list this year

The guy held a couple records when he retired! No reason why he shouldn't be in the HOF.

OT: Anyone else notice they let Jerry Rice have Steve Largent's #80?

This is pretty werid if you ask me, Art Monk was with the redskins from 1980-1993. I may be wrong but wasn't Norv Turner in his first year as a head coach when we let Monk go? Fastforward to the present and Norv is out in Oakland and look who gets let go, Jerry Rice another vet from the 80's. I am begining to think that Norv doesnt like the older proven recievers and wants young talent of which he can not find if his life depended on it.

you'd be hard pressed to find anybody on this site to disagree. I went to his camp 3 years and he was the nicest guy.(his son was a dick)

John Konoza (the statistician for 106.7WJFK) got me an autographed picture of Monk the night he set the record.

It is a travesty that he is not in the HOF. I for my life don't understand why there is even a discussion about it. Anyone who can look at his career know he should have been a first ballot HOF. When he retired he was arguably the second best reciever in history. Of course since then he has been passed by on multiple records but this is a different era. It is shameful that he is not in and it is shameful that no one will make a big deal out of it.

It's a f-in joke. How can a guy who held the all time receptions record not be in the hall of fame while guys like James Lofton get in ahead of him? The one's responsible for Monk not being in the hall are the 2 jackass SI writers Peter King & Paul Zimmerman. Those two make it a personal mission every year to keep Monk out for some reason. I don't see how he will ever get in as long as those two big mouths have a say in it...

What the hell did Peter King or Paul Zimmerman ever do to deserve to keep someone like that out of the hall of fame. Fire both those assclowns, cause its a freaking sin that this guy isnt in.

For anyone interested, here's a full list of the [URL=http://www.profootballhof.com/history//release.jsp?release_id=1318]nominees[/URL]

Marino is a lock, if Irvin makes it first ballot, wow, Monk should really be ticked

How is Tagliabue eligible? That's a crock.

I don't know if Irvin is a first ballot HOFer, but there's probably no way he doesn't get in soon.

Monk probably won't make it. Teams never feared Monk, or tried to take him out of the gameplan. He quietly moved the chains and was an integral part of our SB successes but the more dangerous receivers always lined up opposite Monk, like Gary Clark or Charlie Brown. He was extremely solid, definitely a great Redskin, but if you go by stats or reputation Monk is just not quite there. I don't think it's going to happen for Monk, he was just never the driving force for us on offense, but that's not to minimize his contribution to the Redskins because the guy was fantastic for us. But if he played for any other team would we even know who he was? Quiet, unassuming, dependable but where did he stand out?

When DG comes up next year he's a first ballot HOFer. Monk, he may get in eventually but I wouldn't count on it.

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This is a really good artical about Art Monk and the HOF.

[QUOTE=memphisskin]I don't know if Irvin is a first ballot HOFer, but there's probably no way he doesn't get in soon.

Monk probably won't make it. Teams never feared Monk, or tried to take him out of the gameplan. He quietly moved the chains and was an integral part of our SB successes but the more dangerous receivers always lined up opposite Monk, like Gary Clark or Charlie Brown. He was extremely solid, definitely a great Redskin, but if you go by stats or reputation Monk is just not quite there. I don't think it's going to happen for Monk, he was just never the driving force for us on offense, but that's not to minimize his contribution to the Redskins because the guy was fantastic for us. But if he played for any other team would we even know who he was? Quiet, unassuming, dependable but where did he stand out?

When DG comes up next year he's a first ballot HOFer. Monk, he may get in eventually but I wouldn't count on it.[/QUOTE]

Monk may not have ben a driving force like you state above and Deffenses may not have to game plan just for him. But IMO when people are elected into the HOF I think that stats and how they effected the game should be taken into consideration.

Now some may wonder how Art Monk changed the game of football. It can be clearly seen that he was a prototype WR of todays bigger and stronger recievers. I mean look at Art Monks Height, 6'3" and Weight, 210 lbs. Now look at the top recievers in the leage today, Terrel Owens - Height - 6'3', Weight - 226lbs. Randy Moss - Height 6'4" Weight - 210.

I guess what I am trying to say is that Art Monk was a reciever before his time. I know that Owens and Moss will probably exceed Monks career but at the time that Art Monk played not every Wide out was built like him. Now just about every reciever in the leauge is almost molded like him. IMO Art Monk not only was a Redskin great, he also helped the progression of the game and the Wide Reciver position.

russ grimm, joe jacoby, doug williams, and art monk from the skins... henry ellard too, but he was here from 94-98 during a playoff drought.

If loud mouth coke head Michael Irvin gets in, it is a travesty!!!!! Art Monk should be in years before him!!
As for Jerry Rice wearing Largents retired number 80, the newspaper said Rice personally called Largent and asked if he would un-retire the number so Rice could wear it and Largent agreed.

monk in the hof
 

Maybe because Art was quiet and didn't run his mouth to attract attention to himself is why HOF voters haven't voted him in.Art was a true pofessional on and off the field,except maybe his unwillingness to talk to reporters.I think he just didn't like the attention and was happy just going about doing his job.If you ever needed a first down,he was your man.He loved that out route.I agree with many others on this subject that his induction is long overdue.But again there's so many good first year nominees,it will hurt his chances again.Keep the faith everyone!Art can't go unnoticed forever.(hopefully)

[QUOTE=Cush]they were just talking about the new candidates for the Hall Of Fame & said that Art Monk should already be in.[/QUOTE]

As you can see from my signature I am an Art Monk fan. I hope the HOF voters consider class, dignity, and work ethic when casting their ballots.

We already know 3 ballots will be shoe-ins...Dan Marino and Steve Young, plus one "old timer"....it will kill my soul in Michael "Durg Store Cowboy" Irvin makes it in before Monk ...................

[QUOTE=Redskins8588]This is pretty werid if you ask me, Art Monk was with the redskins from 1980-1993. I may be wrong but wasn't Norv Turner in his first year as a head coach when we let Monk go? Fastforward to the present and Norv is out in Oakland and look who gets let go, Jerry Rice another vet from the 80's. I am begining to think that Norv doesnt like the older proven recievers and wants young talent of which he can not find if his life depended on it.[/QUOTE]

No, Monk was let go when Richie Petibone was the HC.

[QUOTE=cpayne5]The guy held a couple records when he retired! No reason why he shouldn't be in the HOF.

OT: Anyone else notice they let Jerry Rice have Steve Largent's #80?[/QUOTE]

I thought it was very unclassy for Rice to ask for a number that had already been retired. Steve Largen showed class by giving it up. I think Rice needs to hang it up...............

[QUOTE=Redskins8588]This is pretty werid if you ask me, Art Monk was with the redskins from 1980-1993. I may be wrong but wasn't Norv Turner in his first year as a head coach when we let Monk go? Fastforward to the present and Norv is out in Oakland and look who gets let go, Jerry Rice another vet from the 80's. I am begining to think that Norv doesnt like the older proven recievers and wants young talent of which he can not find if his life depended on it.[/QUOTE]

The story I heard was Monk and Jack Kent Cooke had a falling out.......and that's why he ended up going to the Jets.....BTW this question came up before if a player played for multiple teams it is the inductee's choice to chose what team he goes under in the HOF, or does the hall assign the team where the player played the longest....or the last?

[QUOTE=FRPLG]It is a travesty that he is not in the HOF. I for my life don't understand why there is even a discussion about it. Anyone who can look at his career know he should have been a first ballot HOF. When he retired he was arguably the second best reciever in history. Of course since then he has been passed by on multiple records but this is a different era. It is shameful that he is not in and it is shameful that no one will make a big deal out of it.[/QUOTE]

WITH LOTS OF SARCASM.....
He's not flashy enough, he has good moral character, and isn't self promoting...................just too classy, blue collar, and too quiet.......

HAIL TO ART MONK!!!!!!

theres a ton of big names on that list. Marino definitly, young probably, the list goes on. Its a shame monk isnt already in it

monk for the HOF
 

Monk has more catches than Largent.Somebody should be asking HOF Art if they can use his jersey number.

I had an arguement with a Boys fan about how Art Monk should go to the HOF before Irvin. He said Monk barely had better stats then Irvin and it was due to because he was in the league for a long time. I mentioned that Irvin was the only receiver the Boys had. Behind Irvin, the #2 and 3 guys in receptions was TE Novacek and RB E. Smith.