DeSean Jackson = Playmaker. Who is ours?
 

I recall many on this board calling for drafting DeSean Jackson two years back. It's ironic that he now has 3 long TDs against us in just 4 games when you consider that we drafted BOTH Devin Thomas and Fred Davis ahead of Jackson. In addition, we get very little from Randle El as a punt returner while Jackson gives Philly a legitimate chance to score on every punt return. With Moss and Portis on the back side of their careers, where will our explosive plays come from in 2 years?

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Thomas has the most potential to be that type of player. DeSean is probably a bit faster and well, we made mistakes on those two big plays. Rogers bit hard on the pass... Carter was way too slow to slide on the run and neither Landry, Rogers, nor Hall could really get in on him, Landry came in too far instead of forcing it outside or making DeSean make a play back towards the middle. Hall had to come across the field and Rogers was busy getting snowplowed by Maclin I think it was.

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[quote=SouperMeister;616562]I recall many on this board calling for drafting DeSean Jackson two years back. It's ironic that he now has 3 long TDs against us in just 4 games when you consider that we drafted BOTH Devin Thomas and Fred Davis ahead of Jackson. In addition, we get very little from Randle El as a punt returner while Jackson gives Philly a legitimate chance to score on every punt return. With Moss and Portis on the back side of their careers, where will our explosive plays come from in 2 years?[/quote]

Actually, the defense won that game for the Eagles, that's their playmaker.

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[B]Marko Mitchell [/B]needs playing time great hands and speed. Put him in the slot or something. He is not playing because of his small contract I think. Did you see the power [B]Rock[/B] ran with give him the ball. ARE needs to be taken off of punt return.

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Yea man philly is so lucky to have a Franchise qb and really good wr's, I don't know when we will ever have a QB thats legit again.. I hope we can draft Bradford next yr.

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Anthony Alridge!...nevermind

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[quote=Ruhskins;616569]Actually, the defense won that game for the Eagles, that's their playmaker.[/quote]

No the best player on the Eagles tonight was Jason (I'm done as a starter after this yr) Campbell lol!! That guy deserves all the shit Steve Young just said about him.. He is a bottom 10 qb in the league

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[quote=skinsfaninok;616573]Yea man philly is so lucky to have a Franchise qb and really good wr's, I don't know when we will ever have a QB thats legit again.. [B]I hope we can draft Bradford next yr[/B].[/quote]

:doh:

I swear, as much as ppl hate Snyder, they sure think like he does.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;616577]No the best player on the Eagles tonight was Jason (I'm done as a starter after this yr) Campbell lol!! That guy deserves all the shit Steve Young just said about him.. He is a bottom 10 qb in the league[/quote]

Cmon bottom 10? With Culter, Russel, Derek Anderson, and Culpepper nah. The O-line is not blocking; put Collins in and see what happens.

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[quote=Ruhskins;616587]:doh:

I swear, as much as ppl hate Snyder, they sure think like he does.[/quote]

Your right, how can you build if you keep changing the foundation

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[quote=Green1;616589]Cmon bottom 10? With Culter, Russel, Derek Anderson, and Culpepper nah. The O-line is not blocking; put Collins in and see what happens.[/quote]

Cutler has no WR'S and their line is bad also.. JC is awful and everyone outside of our fans got to see it tonight. He had two td's but the last one was a JUNK td. I would take anyone from the East over him, Plus Cutler, Rodgers, Warner, Hasselbeck, Ryan, Brees, and most of the AFC qb's so yea he's a bottom 10 QB.. Just look at his overall numbers and record for his career.

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[quote=Ruhskins;616587]:doh:

I swear, as much as ppl hate Snyder, they sure think like he does.[/quote]

OK dude Sam Bradford is regarded as the next Peyton Manning by many Draft experts, this guy doesn't come around often. You would be an idiot not to take this guy. WTF

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[quote=skinsfaninok;616573]Yea man philly is so lucky to have a Franchise qb and really good wr's, I don't know when we will ever have a QB thats legit again.. I hope we can draft Bradford next yr.[/quote]

I dont want that overhyped loser!! OFFENSIVE LINE!!!!!!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;616593]Cutler has no WR'S and their line is bad also.. JC is awful and everyone outside of our fans got to see it tonight. He had two td's but the last one was a JUNK td. I would take anyone from the East over him, Plus Cutler, Rodgers, Warner, Hasselbeck, Ryan, Brees, and most of the AFC qb's so yea he's a bottom 10 QB.. Just look at his overall numbers and record for his career.[/quote]

Unfortunately, talk like this will get us another top pick QB that will get rattled by our "wonderful" offensive line.

Talking about how bad Campbell is, is like beating a dead horse and it will not get anything accomplished. The FO needs to draft and get good linemen, before any move is done about the QB position.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;616598]OK dude Sam Bradford is regarded as the next Peyton Manning by many Draft experts, this guy doesn't come around often. You would be an idiot not to take this guy. WTF[/quote]

Who the hell said Bradford is the next Peyton??? You need to get off that OU bias.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;616598]OK dude Sam Bradford is regarded as the next Peyton Manning by many Draft experts, this guy doesn't come around often. You would be an idiot not to take this guy. WTF[/quote]

Did Peyton Manning have two shoulder injuries the year he entered the draft? I swear, you must be Snyder in disguise.

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[quote=Ruhskins;616602]Unfortunately, talk like this will get us another top pick QB that will get rattled by our "wonderful" offensive line.

Talking about how bad Campbell is, is like beating a dead horse and it will not get anything accomplished. The FO needs to draft and get good linemen, before any move is done about the QB position.[/quote]

Exactly!! Case in point the Miami Dolphins, after they drafted Long at LT and filled a few holes, they look pretty good and with a young QB.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;616593]Cutler has no WR'S and their line is bad also.. JC is awful and everyone outside of our fans got to see it tonight. He had two td's but the last one was a JUNK td. I would take anyone from the East over him, Plus Cutler, Rodgers, Warner, Hasselbeck, Ryan, Brees, and most of the AFC qb's so yea he's a bottom 10 QB.. Just look at his overall numbers and record for his career.[/quote]

Funny how you are only mentioning pro bowl QBs there buddy.

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[quote=Green1;616572][B]Marko Mitchell [/B]needs playing time great hands and speed. Put him in the slot or something. He is not playing because of his small contract I think. Did you see the power [B]Rock[/B] ran with give him the ball. ARE needs to be taken off of punt return.[/quote]
Yeah I'm sure that they're not thinking stop the run as much against Rock but he hit the hole quicker than most of our guys have been it seems. That's one that I'd like to look at again.

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[quote=Ruhskins;616609]Did Peyton Manning have two shoulder injuries the year he entered the draft? I swear, you must be Snyder in disguise.[/quote]

He's only had one shoulder injury, so are you saying that he's not worth taking over campbell?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;616598]OK dude Sam Bradford is regarded as the next Peyton Manning by many Draft experts, this guy doesn't come around often. You would be an idiot not to take this guy. WTF[/quote]I don't want Bradford and his gimpy shoulder. [I]I want a return to Redskins football from the glory days. We built a dominant O-line and won three Super Bowls with very ordinary QBs. [/I] We even got to the NFC Championship with Jay Schroeder for crying out loud!!! I said it before, and it bears repeating - draft the next Chris Samuels with our upcoming Top-5 pick. Draft another O-lineman in the 2nd round. We forfeit the 3rd for Jarmon. Draft a running back in the 4th round.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;616611]Funny how you are only mentioning pro bowl QBs there buddy.[/quote]

Ok man I would also take Rivers, Orton, Garrard, Shaub, Sanchez, Flacco, BIG BEN, well that leaves Jc in the bottom 10 lol

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[quote=skinsfaninok;616616]He's only had one shoulder injury, so are you saying that he's not worth taking over campbell?[/quote]

He's had TWO shoulder injuries...read your news correctly. And I'm not saying that we should take him over Campbell, I'm saying that we need to draft and build a line before we put ANYONE behind center. You have the same philosophy as Snyder/Cerrato, just get rid of JC and things will be ok. Well they won't, your beloved Bradford will be a stomping mat if he plays in this line.

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[quote=Ruhskins;616602]Unfortunately, talk like this will get us another top pick QB that will get rattled by our "wonderful" offensive line.

Talking about how bad Campbell is, is like beating a dead horse and it will not get anything accomplished. The FO needs to draft and get good linemen, before any move is done about the QB position.[/quote]

What if you make a move or two in FA for solid linemen and then draft a guard in the 2nd or 3rd?

You don't draft just one position a year and sometimes you can be lucky enough to get some more. I'd be tempted to trade next year's number 1 and something later to get a 2nd number 1 this year, but that completely depends on the FO.

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[quote=SouperMeister;616620]I don't want Bradford and his gimpy shoulder. [I]I want a return to Redskins football from the glory days. We built a dominant O-line and won three Super Bowls with very ordinary QBs. [/I] We even got to the NFC Championship with Jay Schroeder for crying out loud!!! I said it before, and it bears repeating - draft the next Chris Samuels with our upcoming Top-5 pick. Draft another O-lineman in the 2nd round. We forfeit the 3rd for Jarmon. Draft a running back in the 4th round.[/quote]

How in the hell would you think we could go back to the old glory days in today's QB driven league???? I swear you guys kill me sometimes when you say dumb shit about A kid who would have been the NUMBER 1 pick at the age of 21!! This guy would make us better immediatly

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[quote=SouperMeister;616620]I don't want Bradford and his gimpy shoulder. [I]I want a return to Redskins football from the glory days. We built a dominant O-line and won three Super Bowls with very ordinary QBs. [/I] We even got to the NFC Championship with Jay Schroeder for crying out loud!!! I said it before, and it bears repeating - draft the next Chris Samuels with our upcoming Top-5 pick. Draft another O-lineman in the 2nd round. We forfeit the 3rd for Jarmon. Draft a running back in the 4th round.[/quote]

I hate to say this but with Fred Davis playing well and hoping he continues to do so, we could dangle him on a trade for a pick/picks.

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[quote=Ruhskins;616624]He's had TWO shoulder injuries...read your news correctly. And I'm not saying that we should take him over Campbell, I'm saying that we need to draft and build a line before we put ANYONE behind center. You have the same philosophy as Snyder/Cerrato, just get rid of JC and things will be ok. Well they won't, your beloved Bradford will be a stomping mat if he plays in this line.[/quote]

Its the SAME SHOULDER bro!! Thats ONE injury to the same shoulder... I watch this guy play every game and if you did, you would see why even Peyton Manning is high on him.. I agree with building an oline trust me we need too, but you cant pass on a "Franchise" QB

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[quote=skinsfaninok;616629]How in the hell would you think we could go back to the old glory days in today's QB driven league???? I swear you guys kill me sometimes when you say dumb shit about A kid who would have been the NUMBER 1 pick at the age of 21!! This guy would make us better immediatly[/quote]No, you kill me. Great teams are built from the inside out. You could put Tom Brady himself behind this current O-line, and we would be no better than a 7 win team. Do you really believe that Bradford would instantly make us a 10 win team without an O-line and consistent running game?

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I like what Devin said on the postgame show. He said it's time for him to get his DeSean Jackson on.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;616633]Its the SAME SHOULDER bro!! Thats ONE injury to the same shoulder... I watch this guy play every game and if you did, you would see why even Peyton Manning is high on him.. I agree with building an oline trust me we need too, but you cant pass on a "Franchise" QB[/quote]Let me guess, you're an Oklahoma fan and you were high on M. Kelly too???

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[quote=SouperMeister;616562]I recall many on this board calling for drafting DeSean Jackson two years back. It's ironic that he now has 3 long TDs against us in just 4 games when you consider that we drafted BOTH Devin Thomas and Fred Davis ahead of Jackson. In addition, we get very little from Randle El as a punt returner while Jackson gives Philly a legitimate chance to score on every punt return. With Moss and Portis on the back side of their careers, where will our explosive plays come from in 2 years?[/quote]

Its too late to recall we should have drafted Jackson how many other teams passed on him? We have who we have and we need to get the ball in their hands like the Eagles did with the reverse to Jackson. Devin Thomas needs the ball, he is bigger and stronger than Jackson. He may not be as fast but he has the talent to be special.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;616623]Ok man I would also take Rivers, Orton, Garrard, Shaub, Sanchez, Flacco, BIG BEN, well that leaves Jc in the bottom 10 lol[/quote]

Rivers Big Ben pro bowl QBs Orton u wouldn't have said his name before this year and I am not sold on Sanchez, Garrard is pretty much the same guy as Campbell.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;616633][B]Its the SAME SHOULDER bro!![/B] Thats ONE injury to the same shoulder... I watch this guy play every game and if you did, you would see why even Peyton Manning is high on him.. I agree with building an oline trust me we need too, but you cant pass on a "Franchise" QB[/quote]

Great! I swear, you are Dan Snyder.

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[quote=SouperMeister;616634]No, you kill me. Great teams are built from the inside out. You could put Tom Brady himself behind this current O-line, and we would be no better than a 7 win team. Do you really believe that Bradford would instantly make us a 10 win team without an O-line and consistent running game?[/quote]

No man I didnt say 10 wins, obviously this team is only gonna win 4 games at best this yr.. It's alot harder to find a Franchise QB than it is to find a DECENT OLINE.. Even the guys said tonight that many sacks are Campbell's fault.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;616593]Cutler has no WR'S and their line is bad also.. JC is awful and everyone outside of our fans got to see it tonight. He had two td's but the last one was a JUNK td. I would take anyone from the East over him, Plus Cutler, Rodgers, Warner, Hasselbeck, Ryan, Brees, and most of the AFC qb's so yea he's a bottom 10 QB.. Just look at his overall numbers and record for his career.[/quote]

What!? you would rather Culter Mr. Int, or Jake Delhomey. Brees same Offense for years = success. Warner Same O = success. Rodgers Same O = success. P. Manning, McNabb, Brady, Big Ben same O for years = success. I see a pattern and you don't?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;616646]No man I didnt say 10 wins, obviously this team is only gonna win 4 games at best this yr.. It's alot harder to find a Franchise QB than it is to find a DECENT OLINE.. Even the guys said tonight that many sacks are Campbell's fault.[/quote]

I say we trade for Sage Rosenfelds.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;616629]How in the hell would you think we could go back to the old glory days in today's QB driven league???? I swear you guys kill me sometimes when you say dumb shit about A kid who would have been the NUMBER 1 pick at the age of 21!! This guy would make us better immediatly[/quote]

Only cause the QB class was weak as shit last season and how would he make us instantly better laying on his ass???

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[quote=Ruhskins;616645]Great! I swear, you are Dan Snyder.[/quote]

So tell me what would you do? Keep a Bum is JC or draft a guy who has atleast more potential than Campbell. He's 28 yrs old and will never be a starter again. I understand about the oline but at some point you need a playmaking qb. A. Rodgers gets sacked more than anyone but yet he still puts up big numbers.

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Ladies and Gentlemen, your franchise QB...

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;616649]Only cause the QB class was weak as shit last season and how would he make us instantly better laying on his ass???[/quote]

WEAK? well sanchez would probably make us atleast a .500 team. Again what are you guys saying? Face the music and admit that JC has set us back along with VC and Zorn