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SFREDSKIN 10-26-2009 11:40 PM

Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
Fred Davis
Devin Thomas
Chris Wilson
Kedric Golston

These young guys produced, I say it's time to get Mitchell sometime and throw in the C (Williams from Maryland) out there. Most important, TEAM DID NOT QUIT!! There's hope.

cpayne5 10-26-2009 11:47 PM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
Haynesworth was a monster throughout, too.

Gruden and Campbell in '10! (with a few OL draftpicks interspersed)

Bushead 10-26-2009 11:47 PM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
Is Chris Wilson Young anymore?

Hog1 10-26-2009 11:49 PM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
Cannot be denied!

CRedskinsRule 10-26-2009 11:50 PM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
Overall, This was a much more positive game then the last two weeks. Now we get the bye. The team certainly needs it.

tryfuhl 10-26-2009 11:51 PM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
Well, unfortunately Cooley went down, but Davis finally got his chance to show that he can deliver as a quality TE in the NFL. The only things that I can fault him on is the TD miss, the ball was behind him but he did bring both hands back in on it, near the body. The other is small, his jump trying to avoid a defender again.

Thomas was open several times and hit a couple of those, most importantly in the end zone.. on that botched snap he was open again, looked like the same play.

skinsfaninok 10-26-2009 11:52 PM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=cpayne5;616425]haynesworth was a monster throughout, too.

Gruden and campbell in '10! (with a few ol draftpicks interspersed)[/quote]

stop on jc shit!! Hes gone for sure

skinsfaninok 10-26-2009 11:53 PM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
All the big al haters got shut up tonight, hes a true stud

CRedskinsRule 10-26-2009 11:54 PM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=tryfuhl;616445]Well, unfortunately Cooley went down, but Davis finally got his chance to show that he can deliver as a quality TE in the NFL. The only things that I can fault him on is the TD miss, the ball was behind him but he did bring both hands back in on it, near the body. The other is small, his jump trying to avoid a defender again.

Thomas was open several times and hit a couple of those, most importantly in the end zone.. on that botched snap he was open again, looked like the same play.[/quote]

Don't forget DT's catch and carry for an "important" 1st down. when JC scrambled and hit him and he carried a guy. That was impressive

kdogg3270 10-26-2009 11:54 PM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=tryfuhl;616445]Well, unfortunately Cooley went down, but Davis finally got his chance to show that he can deliver as a quality TE in the NFL. The only things that I can fault him on is the TD miss, the ball was behind him but he did bring both hands back in on it, near the body. The other is small, his jump trying to avoid a defender again.

Thomas was open several times and hit a couple of those, most importantly in the end zone.. on that botched snap he was open again, looked like the same play.[/quote]

i agree about Fred Davis
Andre Carter has been on fire
glad to see D. Thomas get some work

tryfuhl 10-26-2009 11:57 PM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;616458]Don't forget DT's catch and carry for an "important" 1st down. when JC scrambled and hit him and he carried a guy. That was impressive[/quote]
I'm trying to remember this play, I forget stuff like that easily unfortunately.. I do remember Davis carrying a defender a few yards and a 2nd one for about a yard to stretch it for the 1st.

skinsfan69 10-27-2009 12:03 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;616391]Fred Davis
Devin Thomas
Chris Wilson
Kedric Golston

These young guys produced, I say it's time to get Mitchell sometime and throw in the C (Williams from Maryland) out there. Most important, TEAM DID NOT QUIT!! There's hope.[/quote]

Goldston really isn't considered young anymore. Thomas played decent and it was good to see him a bit more involved.

tryfuhl 10-27-2009 12:04 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
One more thing that I forgot about Davis, he needs to step up against the rush, he faced probably a tougher one than he's had to deal with this year but he needs to spend some time working on that, especially with Cooley out. A lot of teams are going to love what they see on the film against us.

SFREDSKIN 10-27-2009 12:04 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
Carter, Fletcher, McIntosh and Haynesworth had great games also. I was referring to our young guys. LIke I said build the line, get another RB and even with a QB like Thigpen, Rosenfelds or Kolb this team could make a quick resurgence.

CRedskinsRule 10-27-2009 12:04 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
Was it Davis? I thought Devin had one too, maybe I was dreaming.

tryfuhl 10-27-2009 12:06 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;616496]Was it Davis? I thought Devin had one too, maybe I was dreaming.[/quote]
He may have but I don't recall it.

SouperMeister 10-27-2009 12:08 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;616455]All the big al haters got shut up tonight, hes a true stud[/quote]Haynesworth is the biggest reason that Carter is on his way to a 12-14 sack season. Phat Al is a one man wrecking crew.

GridIron26 10-27-2009 12:10 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
True, I saw some positives in this game, as well.. Like everyone else's been saying, some players stepped up in the game.. Play calling was better, I believe.. But the outcomes of this game is sorely based on O-line men.. If I'm Vinny or another GM; I would draft a left T and either right T or C.. Try to retain Campbell and sign a free agent that could push for #1 QB spot.. Also slap Rogers and Rocky with RFA tag..

CRedskinsRule 10-27-2009 12:10 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
One positive, we can still sweep Dallas!

tryfuhl 10-27-2009 12:11 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
Another thing, did it seem like Sellers was never in front of Portis? Was he not lead blocking, trying to not let a stop in the backfield? I don't know, I didn't watch it the whole time but Betts had a couple of lead blocks that were more impressive.

SFREDSKIN 10-27-2009 12:11 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=GridIron26;616511]True, I saw some positives in this game, as well.. Like everyone else's been saying, some players stepped up in the game.. Play calling was better, I believe.. But the outcomes of this game is sorely based on O-line men.. If I'm Vinny or another GM; I would draft a left T and either right T or C.. Try to retain Campbell and sign a free agent that could push for #1 QB spot.. Also slap Rogers and Rocky with RGA tag..[/quote]

Excellent post. We need to also keep Golston and get rid of Montgomery.

tryfuhl 10-27-2009 12:12 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;616513]One positive, we can still sweep Dallas![/quote]
Zorn just mentioned DT's broken tackle so I guess that we both remembered one.

The Goat 10-27-2009 12:12 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=SouperMeister;616508]Haynesworth is the biggest reason that Carter is on his way to a 12-14 sack season. Phat Al is a one man wrecking crew.[/quote]

Considering Dallas just guaranteed Ware $40 mil Albert doesn't seem like such a bad deal...and then you see our offense take the field and the oline collapse almost every play and it's really hard to justify how we spent our off-season money.

Defensewins 10-27-2009 12:13 AM

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Campbell only fumbled a few times....oh wait.... never mind.

CRedskinsRule 10-27-2009 12:14 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
Again, I had to turn it off for a while. Was the line any better once LJ came in. Is it possible to put LJ on the left, MW on the right and rinehart at RG?

or some other combination?

CRedskinsRule 10-27-2009 12:14 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=tryfuhl;616520]Zorn just mentioned DT's broken tackle so I guess that we both remembered one.[/quote]

Or Zorn was wrong. Just kidding

Ruhskins 10-27-2009 12:15 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
A positive....Levi Jones has two weeks to get up to speed so he can take over at LT?

Dirtbag59 10-27-2009 12:56 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
Lol, everytime Gruden said something about the Redskins I found myself listening closely. It's almost like you're setting him up for a question like "3rd and 14 for the Redskins, so John if you were the coach of this team what would you do?" Of course Gruden hated the fact that Zorn got his play calling duties stripped away and said he would practically quit if it came down to that.

Still add some lineman, get a running game going, throw in a top notch coach and you have a very different football team. Look we have to accept that we don't have Peyton Manning at QB. We need to play balanced football with a slight lean towards a smash mouth style. Give our defense some time to rest, avoid turnovers, and control the ball. One thing I've noticed is that in any sport were pocession is up for grabs (soccer, basketball, hockey, football) the team that controls the ball/puck has the best chance to win 99% of the time.

Trample the Elderly 10-27-2009 01:14 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=Bushead;616427]Is Chris Wilson Young anymore?[/quote]

He was drafted not too long ago.

SFREDSKIN 10-27-2009 01:15 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=Trample the Elderly;616681]He was drafted not too long ago.[/quote]

FA Canadian league signee. 27 YO

tryfuhl 10-27-2009 01:17 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=Trample the Elderly;616681]He was drafted not too long ago.[/quote]
Actually he spent 2 years in the CFL before we signed him, starting in 05. We got him in 07. Looking it up he's 27.

Trample the Elderly 10-27-2009 01:17 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
I saw something positive too. They played medium suck and not total suck. After the bye, they plan on switching from suck to blow.

Trample the Elderly 10-27-2009 01:19 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=tryfuhl;616685]Actually he spent 2 years in the CFL before we signed him, starting in 05. We got him in 07. Looking it up he's 27.[/quote]

Could have sworn we drafted him, but oh well. I put all of the UDFAs as team pick ups with drafts apart from FAs on my chart.

skins89moss 10-27-2009 01:27 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=Bushead;616427]Is Chris Wilson Young anymore?[/quote]

Chris Wilson is still Young but he has speed and atheleticism that Daniels dosent have. He is a bright spot.

SFREDSKIN 10-27-2009 01:28 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=skins89moss;616704]Chris Wilson is still Young but he has speed and atheleticism that Daniels dosent have. He is a bright spot.[/quote]

And we also have Jarmon. I think we are pretty much set on the D, maybe another CB, LB. We need help on the Offense.

pg86 10-27-2009 01:29 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
What do u guys think of sherm callin those plays?

skins89moss 10-27-2009 01:30 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=skinsfan69;616490]Goldston really isn't considered young anymore. Thomas played decent and it was good to see him a bit more involved.[/quote]

Golston isnt young? Whats his age and how long has been in the NFL? Golston is young off the top of my head i think Goltson can not be older than 26yrs old. He is a keeper on the D-Line.

SFREDSKIN 10-27-2009 01:31 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=skins89moss;616715]Golston isnt young? Whats his age and how long has been in the NFL? Golston is young off the top of my head i think Goltson can not be older than 26yrs old. He is a keeper on the D-Line.[/quote]

Damn right! Montgomery has to go.

Trample the Elderly 10-27-2009 01:34 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
Where was Doughty? I saw him on teams and a few plays here and there?

skins89moss 10-27-2009 01:34 AM

Re: Believe it or not I saw some positive signs
 
[quote=Ruhskins;616532]A positive....Levi Jones has two weeks to get up to speed so he can take over at LT?[/quote]

I agree we need Levi Jones to play LT and move Heyer back to RT. Move Mike Williams to RG and Rabach is soon to be gone next. Who do we have on the Roster better than him now is the Question? Rabach is a backup center now at this stage in his career.


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