Carlos Rogers calls out ownership (PFT)
 

Got a like a guy who [URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/12/carlos-rogers-says-redskins-blame-starts-with-the-ownership/"]calls it likes he sees it[/URL]...and that probably isn't interested in a new contract with the Skins.

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read the same thing in the wash. post, but unlike PFT, they didn't isolate the quote & try to make it sound like he 'called out ownership.' He said it, but it was one of those comments about how everyone is to blame.

Re: Carlos Rogers calls out ownership (PFT)
 

Yeah he just basically said the blame starts at the top and goes all the way down. I didn't take it as a call out necessarily, he was just stating the obvious. As for him not interested in staying I'm sure the feeling is mutual.

Re: Carlos Rogers calls out ownership (PFT)
 

[quote=724Skinsfan;607575]Got a like a guy who [URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/12/carlos-rogers-says-redskins-blame-starts-with-the-ownership/"]calls it likes he sees it[/URL]...and that probably isn't interested in a new contract with the Skins.[/quote]

Not surprising, but different hearing that kind of comment coming from someone on the inside. With Carlos, his contract status may have something to do with it. He's on the last year of his rookie deal and may be looking to move on, hence he feels that any comment he makes cannot be but so detrimental to him.

Re: Carlos Rogers calls out ownership (PFT)
 

I've been impressed w/Rogers this year. He's played well & after the losses he's seemed very frustrated & unhappy, like his heart is more in it than in the past.

I feel bad for the guy; he has trouble making plays on the ball, not just catching it, sometimes he gets beat when he's in good position. He made a great play on S. Smith on sunday though in the end zone.

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that's impressive...for a player to publicly put at least some of the onus on on the owner takes guts and for what it's worth I'm glad someone has done it.

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I just hope we can franchise / trade him so he doesn't walk for "nothing." A 3rd round comp pick in 2011 just isnt going to cut it... why are there so many hard feelings between rogers and the management/ownership again? i know it seems they've been down on him for several years now.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;607596]I just hope we can franchise / trade him so he doesn't walk for "nothing." A 3rd round comp pick in 2011 just isnt going to cut it... [SIZE=4]why are there so many hard feelings between rogers and the management/ownership again?[/SIZE] i know it seems they've been down on him for several years now.[/quote]

I never knew their was hard feelings between him and the FO? He made a general comment which just about anyone who follows the team knows. Its true with any business not just football its starts at the top. Some at the top will say they made mistakes some won't but they know it starts at the top.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;607596]I just hope we can franchise / trade him so he doesn't walk for "nothing." A 3rd round comp pick in 2011 just isnt going to cut it... why are there [B]so many hard feelings between rogers and the management/ownership again[/B]? i know it seems they've been down on him for several years now.[/quote]

I've never heard of anything, just his demotion last year to Hall. Blache was maybe down on him some. He's stepped up this year though.

Re: Carlos Rogers calls out ownership (PFT)
 

what type of contract will he be worth?

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anyone ever track how many dropped interceptions he has made over the years? (note- I like Rogers as a corner but I am curious).

Re: Carlos Rogers calls out ownership (PFT)
 

[quote=BrunellMVP?;607619]anyone ever track how many dropped interceptions he has made over the years? (note- I like Rogers as a corner but I am curious).[/quote]An average of about four a year. (17 career, does not include playoff games). Although my 2005 and 2006 information is very unofficial, so results from those years may vary.

I have no numbers on the league average corner, but I don't think it would be unreasonable to say that a corner who has average hands and plays 16 games drops about 2 INTs a year.

Re: Carlos Rogers calls out ownership (PFT)
 

[quote=freddyg12;607604]I've never heard of anything, just his demotion last year to Hall. Blache was maybe down on him some. He's stepped up this year though.[/quote]
well i remember the past two years, there have been talks of trading him in the offseason. it just seems theres no love lost between he and coaches/management/ownership. This past week Rogers also indicated he plans to be elsewhere next year, although he acknowledged the skins could keep him here by tagging him.

I think most young players on the roster who are more interested in winning than securing a big pay day would love nothing more than to get the hell out of washington as soon as possible, and i can't blame them. this franchise is an absolute mess. I hate to say this as I may just be overly frustrated right now, but if, after the season, the panthers hire shottenhiemer as GM and Cowher as HC, while snyder retains cerrato and hires another puppet HC, i'm going to be tempted to switch my loyalties to my home-state team. i'd always have a soft-spot for the skins, but the franchise is being dragged into the ground by a lunatic owner who, despite what he may say, cares more about money than he does about winning. I know i'm just one person, but until snyder starts feeling hurt in his wallet, i dont think he'll ever change.

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[quote=GTripp0012;607625]An average of about four a year. (17 career, does not include playoff games). Although my 2005 and 2006 information is very unofficial, so results from those years may vary.

I have no numbers on the league average corner, but I don't think it would be unreasonable to say that a corner who has average hands and plays 16 games drops about 2 INTs a year.[/quote]

continue to amaze. thanks

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It seems like almost every time they show a clip of him on Comcast that he's been making little comments like this throughout the year. I chalk it up to frustration with the entire organization, but specifically with the offense for not putting up more points.

Re: Carlos Rogers calls out ownership (PFT)
 

Glad somone is calling out the top. Too bad about Carlos, we will let him go most likely. There is a real garbage heap of corners in the FO class coming out next year. Im sure our FO will overpay one of those guys, and instead of complaining about drop interceptions and pass defended, we will be complaining about why we guarenteed some piece of crap 15-25 million and why he gets beat constantly. If he goes we may move Smoot back into the starting lineup and go with Tryon or Barnes in the nickle, which will be horrible as well. I sure as hell dont want to draft another corner.

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Carlos is right. He might not be the best CB we have but he's not the worst. I blame a lot of our defensive woes on Blache. How do you play WR so far off? How do you play our best DE as a LB?

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As for not resigning Carlos...he's clearly the best CB on the roster in spite of how much money they gave to Hall. With the uncapped year coming I believe those rules will make Carlos a restricted free agent so at least the redskins should be able to get a draft pick if they don't resign him. I bet those remarks were in some way calculated because he wants to sign with a new team in the off season for huge money.

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Carlos has hands of stone, but he is a very good in coverage and excellent in run support. Unfortunately, with these latest comments, I am sure we won't re-sign him and we'll have yet another hole to fill in the starting lineup.

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Carlos speaks the truth, nor does he care. I think he realizes when his contract is up, he will be elsewhere anyhow. Whether calling out ownership is a smart move for him personally, in the realm of being signed as a free agent, we will see.

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[quote=celts32;607682]As for not resigning Carlos...he's clearly the best CB on the roster in spite of how much money they gave to Hall. With the uncapped year coming I believe those rules will make Carlos a restricted free agent so at least the redskins should be able to get a draft pick if they don't resign him. I bet those remarks were in some way calculated because he wants to sign with a new team in the off season for huge money.[/quote]

Pretty sure he's a RFA anyway.

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His remarks are being played up on sports shows and Jason Reid said the FO remembers things like this and Rogers will likely be gone. Doesn't surprise me..Danny's a petty little man.

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[quote=Mattyk72;607580]Yeah he just basically said the blame starts at the top and goes all the way down. I didn't take it as a call out necessarily, he was just stating the obvious. [B]As for him not interested in staying I'm sure the feeling is mutual.[/B][/quote]

Really? Say what you want about his pass catching skills, but I'd hate to see what our D would be like without his coverage abilities.

If he goes, we might as well blow up the whole damn team.

Re: Carlos Rogers calls out ownership (PFT)
 

Carlos isn't interest in remaining in Washington and by all indication, the FO is not interested in retaining him. Hopefully we get as much as we can for him by tagging/then trading him to a willing team (low 1st round or high 2nd round pick would be nice). If we are serious about rebuilding...and yes we are in a rebuilding mode....exiting players like Los in exchange for picks is a great way to go.

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Could you blame any vet for wanting to leave this madhouse? Another HC will again mean at least 2-4 seasons of "rebuilding" mode. It is funny how our Fo just about resembles that of the Lions, but it seems the Lions at least make real attempts at trying to build something. Snyder just thinks he can buy some hot FA's and automatically become a winner. All of these wasted draft picks have come to haunt us, especially with the O line and depth.

Re: Carlos Rogers calls out ownership (PFT)
 

[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;608008]Carlos has hands of stone, but he is a very good in coverage and excellent in run support. Unfortunately, with these latest comments, I am sure we won't re-sign him and we'll have yet another hole to fill in the starting lineup.[/quote]

Maybe we can trade Rogers to San Diego...and finally get Merriman!

Seriously though, we tried to trade Rogers, Moss, and Campbell this past year for a 2nd. Too bad we couldn't pull off any those deals

Re: Carlos Rogers calls out ownership (PFT)
 

[quote=PennSkinsFan;608010]Carlos speaks the truth, nor does he care. I think he realizes when his contract is up, he will be elsewhere anyhow. Whether calling out ownership is a smart move for him personally, in the realm of being signed as a free agent, we will see.[/quote]


He wants out if this crap continues, unless he already has his mind made up. I would too. Unless you get Snder to get a GM and/or fire Vinny, it isn't going to matter who the HC is. Snyder could bring in Dungy, Holgrem, Shanny, or even Cowher, and the team would still underperform. Our lack of depth, giving up draft picks, and lousy drafting have hampered any efforts at building a solid winner. Kelly and Thomas were darkhorse studs in the preseason mags, and they are like invisible, non existent. Rogers and Landry are our best draft picks since Cooley and Sean Taylor, and although I like them they are nothing compared to when we had both Champ and Smooty together in terms of production .