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MTK 08-05-2009 11:46 AM

Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[URL="http://www.fanhouse.com/tag/Eli+Manning/"][COLOR=#0582eb]Eli Manning[/COLOR][/URL] has been rewarded for his Super Bowl victory in 2008 with what sources say is a six-year, $97.5 million contract extension (with an average annual salary of more than $15 million) that will make him one of the highest paid players in NFL history.

[url=http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/08/05/eli-mannings-six-year-97-5-million-extension-one-of-nfls-big/]Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals -- NFL FanHouse[/url]

Lotus 08-05-2009 11:47 AM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
I wonder if Eli will be taunting Peyton over who makes more money.

KLHJ2 08-05-2009 11:55 AM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
They don't say how much is guaranteed though.

He is going to get 15 mil on top of the 10 mil that he was already scheduled to make this year!??? Sick!

Eli is not worth that type of money, but whatever. Soon NFL players are going to be renegotiating their contracts because they are not getting paid enough. I hope that JC doesn't expect that type of money if he has an outstanding year.

Monkeydad 08-05-2009 12:01 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
Wow...all of that money for one good month in his career. Outside that run leading up to the SB a couple of years ago, he's been an average QB. 55.9 career completion %, 200 yds/gm average, 98TDs/74 INTs and a 76.1 passer rating.

MTK 08-05-2009 12:05 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=Angry;572708]They don't say how much is guaranteed though.

He is going to get 15 mil on top of the 10 mil that he was already scheduled to make this year!??? Sick!

Eli is not worth that type of money, but whatever. Soon NFL players are going to be renegotiating their contracts because they are not getting paid enough. [B]I hope that JC doesn't expect that type of money if he has an outstanding year[/B].[/quote]

If he won the SB would you complain?

KLHJ2 08-05-2009 12:08 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=Mattyk72;572710]If he won the SB would you complain?[/quote]

No, but at the same time that is a lot of money for a Lombardi trophy.

DBUCHANON101 08-05-2009 12:12 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
At a loss for words

MTK 08-05-2009 12:13 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=Angry;572712]No, but at the same time that is a lot of money for a Lombardi trophy.[/quote]

It is but I'm sure we would all love to have that problem.

SC Skins Fan 08-05-2009 12:17 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=Angry;572708]They don't say how much is guaranteed though.

He is going to get 15 mil on top of the 10 mil that he was already scheduled to make this year!??? Sick!

Eli is not worth that type of money, but whatever. Soon NFL players are going to be renegotiating their contracts because they are not getting paid enough. I hope that JC doesn't expect that type of money if he has an outstanding year.[/quote]

Jay Glazer is reporting $35 million guaranteed.

SC Skins Fan 08-05-2009 12:17 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=Buster;572709]Wow...all of that money for one good month in his career. Outside that run leading up to the SB a couple of years ago, he's been an average QB. 55.9 career completion %, 200 yds/gm average, 98TDs/74 INTs and a 76.1 passer rating.[/quote]

Try below average.

skinsfan69 08-05-2009 12:28 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
No way in the world is Eli worth that kind of coin. But good for him. He played his best ball when it mattered most.

12thMan 08-05-2009 12:38 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
Eli may not be worth every penny of this deal on paper, but who really is nowadays. The real question in my mind is, do the Giants win the Super Bowl without Manning? I seriously doubt it.

Outside of big brother Manning and Tom Brady, I don't think there are five QBs I would rather have in the clutch than Eli Manning.

GMScud 08-05-2009 12:40 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
He's definitely not worth anywhere close to that kind of money. His career numbers are paltry. He got hot during one half of one season. That's it. No more Toomer or Plax, and we'll see how he does.

Out of all receivers on the Giants roster, the career TD leader has 4. That's right, 4 career TD receptions. If they think Hakeem Nicks is going to turn Eli into the QB from the second half of 2007, they're in for a rude awakening. Plax was his safety blanket, and he's obviously nowhere close to the same QB without him as he was with him.

I'm sorry but I think Eli Manning is one of the most overrated players in football.

53Fan 08-05-2009 12:43 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
I bet Eli is jumping for joy! 97.5 million will buy a lot of corndogs!

SC Skins Fan 08-05-2009 12:43 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=12thMan;572742]Eli may not be worth every penny of this deal on paper, but who really is nowadays. The real question in my mind is, do the Giants win the Super Bowl without Manning? I seriously doubt it.

Outside of big brother Manning and Tom Brady, I don't think there are five QBs I would rather have in the clutch than Eli Manning.[/quote]

Like his totally clutch 15-29 (51.7%), 169 yard, 0 td, 2 int one-and-done playoff performance last year?

KLHJ2 08-05-2009 12:45 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
I wonder if they knew 2 years ago what they know now, would they have traded Shockey away? Witout Pax Shockey might have come in handy.

Zerohero 08-05-2009 01:08 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=Angry;572712]No, but at the same time that is a lot of money for a Lombardi trophy.[/quote]

Considering Synder has paid over a billion in salaries since he has taken over, whats 90 million more for a super bowl :)

FRPLG 08-05-2009 01:09 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=12thMan;572742]Eli may not be worth every penny of this deal on paper, but who really is nowadays. The real question in my mind is, do the Giants win the Super Bowl without Manning? I seriously doubt it.

Outside of big brother Manning and Tom Brady, I don't think there are five QBs I would rather have in the clutch than Eli Manning.[/quote]

Are you kidding? I don't think he is in the top 10 in the league. I wouldn't trade JC for Manning 2.0. In almost every statistical respect JC has been a better QB. They won that SB in spite of him. Or rather, he is adequate enough to lead a team with solid offensive pieces and a heck of a defense deep into the playoffs where anything can happen.

Off the top of my head:

Manning
Brady
Roethlisberger
Rivers
Warner
McNabb
Palmer
Brees
JC


And those are just the ones I'd DEFINITELY take. I'd probably take Ryan, Hasselbeck, Cutler and maybe another few others too.

12thMan 08-05-2009 01:12 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=GMScud;572745]He's definitely not worth anywhere close to that kind of money. His career numbers are paltry. He got hot during one half of one season. That's it. No more Toomer or Plax, and we'll see how he does.

Out of all receivers on the Giants roster, the career TD leader has 4. That's right, 4 career TD receptions. If they think Hakeem Nicks is going to turn Eli into the QB from the second half of 2007, they're in for a rude awakening. Plax was his safety blanket, and he's obviously nowhere close to the same QB without him as he was with him.

I'm sorry but I think Eli Manning is one of the most overrated players in football.[/quote]

Not that I'm an Eli's fan, but they wrote him off when Tiki retired. Then they said he wouldn't make it without Shockey, his receivers are too young, Toomer was too old, Patriots are too good. And they'll say the same thing now that Plax won't be with the Giants this year. All he's done is make the playoffs every year as the starting QB and bring home a Super Bowl ring against a team nobody gave them chance of winning.

firstdown 08-05-2009 01:17 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=FRPLG;572761]Are you kidding? I don't think he is in the top 10 in the league. I wouldn't trade JC for Manning 2.0. In almost every statistical respect JC has been a better QB. They won that SB in spite of him. Or rather, he is adequate enough to lead a team with solid offensive pieces and a heck of a defense deep into the playoffs where anything can happen.

Off the top of my head:

Manning
Brady
Roethlisberger
Rivers
Warner
McNabb
Palmer
Brees
JC


And those are just the ones I'd DEFINITELY take. I'd probably take Ryan, Hasselbeck, Cutler and maybe another few others too.[/quote]

You can say what you want about him prior to the last 6 or so game leading them to the SB but in that stretch he was a key to their winning. Heck the one play in the SB when he had guys hanging off him and some how got away and then threw that ball to get the first down was what kept winning drive alive. You can also point to about another 12 QB's that could not beat the Pats that year but he found a way to win. Is he worth that contract? Only time will tell.

GMScud 08-05-2009 01:21 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=12thMan;572762]Not that I'm an Eli's fan, but they wrote him off when Tiki retired. Then they said he wouldn't make it without Shockey, his receivers are too young, Toomer was too old, Patriots are too good. And they'll say the same thing now that Plax won't be with the Giants this year. All he's done is make the playoffs every year as the starting QB and bring home a Super Bowl ring against a team nobody gave them chance of winning.[/quote]

How did he do after Plax shot himself/got suspended? They were miserable down the stretch, he didn't throw a TD to a WR in the last 4 or 5 games (despite having maybe the best O-line in the game), and his one-and-done playoff performance was abysmal. I'm just saying, he has done exactly nothing without a 6"5' safety blanket to throw jump balls.

12thMan 08-05-2009 01:21 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=FRPLG;572761]Are you kidding? I don't think he is in the top 10 in the league. I wouldn't trade JC for Manning 2.0. In almost every statistical respect JC has been a better QB. They won that SB in spite of him. Or rather, he is adequate enough to lead a team with solid offensive pieces and a heck of a defense deep into the playoffs where anything can happen.

Off the top of my head:

Manning
Brady
Roethlisberger
Rivers
Warner
McNabb
Palmer
Brees
JC


And those are just the ones I'd DEFINITELY take. I'd probably take Ryan, Hasselbeck, Cutler and maybe another few others too.[/quote]

Naw, I wouldn't. Again, I'm talking about in the clutch - come from behind wins. Again, minus Brady and Manning, I'd take Eli over just about everyone on that list with five minutes left in the game. Certainly Campbell shouldn't be on that list as far as clutch performers are concerned. Not yet anyways.

Check this out. (this is through the first week of Sept/'09)

GAMES WON AFTER TRAILING GOING INTO Q4

McNabb: 11 out of 43 (25.6%)
Manning: 10 out of 33 (30.3%)

COMEBACK VICTORIES (trailing by 8 points or more going into Q4)

McNabb: 2 out of 22 (9.1%)
Manning: 4 out of 17 (23.5%)

firstdown 08-05-2009 01:27 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=12thMan;572768]Naw, I wouldn't. Again, I'm talking about in the clutch - come from behind wins. Again, minus Brady and Manning, I'd take Eli over just about everyone on that list with five minutes left in the game. Certainly Campbell shouldn't be on that list as far as clutch performers are concerned. Not yet anyways.

Check this out. (this is through the first week of Sept/'09)

GAMES WON AFTER TRAILING GOING INTO Q4

McNabb: 11 out of 43 (25.6%)
Manning: 10 out of 33 (30.3%)

COMEBACK VICTORIES (trailing by 8 points or more going into Q4)

McNabb: 2 out of 22 (9.1%)
Manning: 4 out of 17 (23.5%)[/quote]

Talking about clutch has JC ever brought the skins back to a victory with 5 min left in a game?

GMScud 08-05-2009 01:31 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
Campbell and Eli have comparable career numbers- but I wonder how Jason would have done last year with a 6'5" stud receiver, the best O-line in football, and three RBs in the neighborhood of 1,000 yards rushing? Methinks a tad better than 8-8. Just saying.

redskinsgirl 08-05-2009 01:38 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=12thMan;572768]Naw, I wouldn't. Again, I'm talking about in the clutch - come from behind wins. Again, minus Brady and Manning, I'd take Eli over just about everyone on that list with five minutes left in the game. Certainly Campbell shouldn't be on that list as far as clutch performers are concerned. Not yet anyways.

Check this out. (this is through the first week of Sept/'09)

GAMES WON AFTER TRAILING GOING INTO Q4

McNabb: 11 out of 43 (25.6%)
Manning: 10 out of 33 (30.3%)

COMEBACK VICTORIES (trailing by 8 points or more going into Q4)

McNabb: 2 out of 22 (9.1%)
Manning: 4 out of 17 (23.5%)[/quote]


Can't really compare McNabb and Manning. McNabb has won playoffs games with mediocre receivers/TE whereas Manning has had Plax, Toomer, Shockey, etc. Put Manning on a team with a so-so oline and receivers and he would be an average(maybe even below average) QB. He wouldn't be that so called clutch QB. Manning is an average QB who is on a great team. You could Alex Smith on the Giants and he would look like an Hall of Famer.

How does Manning and McNabb stats look with Plax being gone??

SC Skins Fan 08-05-2009 01:40 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=firstdown;572769]Talking about clutch has JC ever brought the skins back to a victory with 5 min left in a game?[/quote]

Looking at the box scores from last year, the 67 yard pass to Moss in the New Orleans game came with 3:29 to play in the 4th. In the St. Louis game the Skins scored on a 9 play, 73 yard drive with 4:31 to play to go up 17-12 before the defense pissed it away on a game ending field goal. And against San Francisco the Skins scored to tie with 1:15 left before the defense again snatched defeat from the jaws of victory (or at least overtime).

12thMan 08-05-2009 02:03 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=redskinsgirl;572772]Can't really compare McNabb and Manning. McNabb has won playoffs games with mediocre receivers/TE whereas Manning has had Plax, Toomer, Shockey, etc. Put Manning on a team with a so-so oline and receivers and he would be an average(maybe even below average) QB. He wouldn't be that so called clutch QB. Manning is an average QB who is on a great team. You could Alex Smith on the Giants and he would look like an Hall of Famer.

How does Manning and McNabb stats look with Plax being gone??[/quote]

Over the course of their respective careers you probably can't compare the two, but Eli Manning has a Super Bowl ring and D. McNabb doesn't. And if you want to throw in the what if argument about the better offensive line, wide receivers and such, I think the same could be said of Peyton Manning too. He's been the benefactor of great talent most of his professional career. Arguably a Hall of Fame center in Saturday (is he still in Indy?) and maybe two Hall of Fame wideouts to boot. The jury's still out on Wayne and Marvin likes to play with guns I hear.

My point isn't to take anything away from Donovan McNabb, I think he'll end up in the Hall one day too, perhaps. But right here and now, with five minutes to go in a ball game, I don't think there is a huge difference between him and Eli Manning. I just don't.

CRedskinsRule 08-05-2009 02:05 PM

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Reese said this about Manning, I hope Snyder is giving a similar press conference next February
[quote]"He's a franchise quarterback," said Reese of Manning. "He's done everything we ask him to do. He's come in, he catches a lot of flak from you guys and he just keeps going. He does what we ask him to do on the field, he does what we ask him to do off the field. He's a good football player."[/quote]

Lotus 08-05-2009 02:16 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=SC Skins Fan;572774]Looking at the box scores from last year, the 67 yard pass to Moss in the New Orleans game came with 3:29 to play in the 4th. In the St. Louis game the Skins scored on a 9 play, 73 yard drive with 4:31 to play to go up 17-12 before the defense pissed it away on a game ending field goal. And against San Francisco the Skins scored to tie with 1:15 left before the defense again snatched defeat from the jaws of victory (or at least overtime).[/quote]

Thank you!

JC may not get paid like Manning but if he has a good year this year JC will get paid well, too.

firstdown 08-05-2009 03:22 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
I'd love to know how much the Manning family has made off football. You take the contracts, endorsements, comercials, and everthing else they do to make money it a boat load.

53Fan 08-05-2009 03:25 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=firstdown;572823]I'd love to know how much the Manning family has made off football. You take the contracts, endorsements, comercials, and everthing else they do to make money it a boat load.[/quote]

Right now they're negotiating to buy Mississippi to help out with the national debt.

DBUCHANON101 08-05-2009 03:31 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=firstdown;572765]You can say what you want about him prior to the last 6 or so game leading them to the SB but in that stretch he was a key to their winning. Heck the one play in the SB when he had guys hanging off him and some how got away and then threw that ball to get the first down was what kept winning drive alive. [B]You can also point to about another 12 QB's that could not beat the Pats that year but he found a way to win. Is he worth that contract? Only time will tell.[/quote][/B]

Of those 12 how many of those QB's defenses held the pats to 14 pts? Eli got the payday but we all know the defense won the SB. Pats score their usual 30+ and they are in 'Perfectville' with the 72 Phins.

Ruhskins 08-05-2009 04:04 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=DBUCHANON101;572828][/B]

Of those 12 how many of those QB's defenses held the pats to 14 pts? Eli got the payday but we all know the defense won the SB. [B]Pats score their usual 30+[/B] and they are in 'Perfectville' with the 72 Phins.[/quote]

Eli gets a lot of credit for the SB (hence this big ass contract) but you're right, it was the Giants D that made it possible and NYG getting a few breaks (Darth Hoody not going for a field goal late in the game or Eli barely avoiding getting sacked in the Tyree miracle catch).

Dirtbag59 08-05-2009 04:38 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=Lotus;572701]I wonder if Eli will be taunting Peyton over who makes more money.[/quote]

You're forgetting that Peyton is probably one of the highest paid players in the league on endorsements alone. In 2006 alone Peyton racked in $11.5 million in endorsements.

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/colts/2006-11-15-manning-products-sidebar_x.htm]Manning's roster of endorsements - USATODAY.com[/url]

GTripp0012 08-05-2009 05:54 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Oh those crazy Giants.

Pocket$ $traight 08-05-2009 09:17 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
Good for Eli. He should send some of the money to Burress because his production is going to go down significantly without him.

FRPLG 08-05-2009 09:24 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
Manning is the most over-rated player in football since Alstott, and by a far margin. This baloney about "clutch" is silly. If he was worth the money, or even close, they wouldn't need him so much in the "clutch". There's a reason why Peyton and Brady aren't on the list. It's all a matter of opinion but no way would I want him for my QB. I honestly think he is best the 3rd best QB in his own division.

He is inaccurate, lacks leadership qualities that elite QBs have, and has suspect decision making at times. His career completion percentage is not only not good but in reality pretty bad(55%) and his TD/Ints(98/74) is pretty awful too.

mrreddman 08-05-2009 09:25 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
Eli is the most overrated QB in the NFL. Im happy as hell about this signing. He is not even a top 10 QB in the league. I wonder if the Giants could turn back the clock if they would take him over Rivers? I wouldnt.

coggs 08-05-2009 09:59 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=FRPLG;572761]Are you kidding? I don't think he is in the top 10 in the league. I wouldn't trade JC for Manning 2.0. In almost every statistical respect JC has been a better QB. They won that SB in spite of him. Or rather, he is adequate enough to lead a team with solid offensive pieces and a heck of a defense deep into the playoffs where anything can happen.

Off the top of my head:

Manning
Brady
Roethlisberger
Rivers
Warner
McNabb
Palmer
Brees
JC


And those are just the ones I'd DEFINITELY take. I'd probably take Ryan, Hasselbeck, Cutler and maybe another few others too.[/quote]

Jason Campbell? HAHAHAHAHA. I'll give you the other guys are better than Eli and I do not think he is worth that kind of money either. But, Jason Campbell? Please, he is one of the worst starting QB's in the league.

53Fan 08-05-2009 10:12 PM

Re: Eli Manning's 6-Year, $97.5 Million Extension One of NFL's Biggest Deals
 
[quote=coggs;572922]Jason Campbell? HAHAHAHAHA. I'll give you the other guys are better than Eli and I do not think he is worth that kind of money either. But, Jason Campbell? Please, he is one of the worst starting QB's in the league.[/quote]

No disrepect intended but we're gonna kick your ass this year. :spank:


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