Permanent diet may equal longer life
 

Kind of one of those 'no duh' type of deals, but the results of this study are still pretty interesting. Keep in mind the monkey on the right was on a "normal" diet vs. the monkey on the left with a reduced calorie diet.

[url=http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-sci-caloric-restriction10-2009jul10,0,2287067.story]Permanent diet may equal longer life - Los Angeles Times[/url]

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Now the tuff part will be going out into the woods and making the monkey's stick to that diet.

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Damn! Monkey on the right got a raw deal.

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I guess that means my lunch at Olive Garden wasn't a good idea
-- it tasted good though, so I guess I'm not gonna bite anyone today.
[quote]When UCLA evolutionary biologist Jay Phelan put mice on caloric restriction, he got the distinct impression that they didn't appreciate it.

"They bit people and were more agitated," he said. In contrast, the mice who ate a normal diet "would just sit around and let you pick them up."[/quote]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;567224]I guess that means my lunch at Olive Garden wasn't a good idea
-- it tasted good though, so I guess I'm not gonna bite anyone today.[/quote]

So the fat ones are happier. So I guess a study should be done of which is more important, to be happy, or to have fewer medical issues? LOL.

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[quote=jsarno;567240]So the fat ones are happier. So I guess a study should be done of which is more important, to be happy, or to have fewer medical issues? LOL.[/quote]

Not quite, I don't think anyone who has heart problems and is restricted to a life of no sex is happy.

It's a matter of overindulgence now and depression & illness later vs moderation now and moderation later.

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food makes people happy so does beer but now i am going to lock myself away from good food and live on cheerios

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[quote=Schneed10;567254]Not quite, I don't think anyone who has heart problems and is restricted to a life of no sex is happy.[/quote]

Interesting you would point that out. Not a lot of people with heart issues have to have a life of no sex unless they are close to death with immediate issues. People with prostate issues have that problem and there is no link to poor eating and prostate cancer.

[quote]It's a matter of overindulgence now and depression & illness later vs moderation now and moderation later.[/quote]

I was posing the question...if the fat ones are happier, is moderation now worth it?

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Just for the record, I feel like eating what you want makes you happier, however, exercising makes you happy and healthy too, and you should be more concered about exercising than dieting. Just my opinion though.

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LOL...maybe the most superfluous study ever. Eat less, live healthier, live longer...who'd of thunk it!

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I think one of the underlying reasons why it's better is that your body gets used to how much food you're eating and the body doesn't have to guess how much food is going to be eaten and then over-compensate or under-compensate depending on whether you eat a lot more or less food one day. When it has to change like this it puts a lot of stress on the body and how it functions.

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[quote]It also isn't clear whether caloric restriction would extend human lives by very much, UCLA evolutionary biologist Jay Phelan said. He has combined results from animal studies with data on men on the Japanese island of Okinawa who ate 17% fewer calories than men in Tokyo. He calculated that reducing intake by 35% [B]would extend the human life span by just two years.[/B][/quote]

Two years is two years, but still -- if that's the payoff for a life of starving and denying yourself, I'm not all that impressed.

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[quote=jsarno;567257]Interesting you would point that out. Not a lot of people with heart issues have to have a life of no sex unless they are close to death with immediate issues. People with prostate issues have that problem and there is no link to poor eating and prostate cancer.
[/quote]

Hmmm. How does one say "that's not remotely accurate" without coming across as being a dick? I guess you just say it.

That's not remotely accurate (lest you forget you're speaking to someone in the healthcare business).

Anyone with congestive heart failure, severe murmurs, valve problems, or COPD would be restricted in terms of physical activity, including sex. That encompasses a lot of people who are nowhere near death.

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Though I will say I don't care how long this study says I will live, I'm not going to change what I do. Like anything else, balance is key in life. Whether it's balance between work and home, between family time and time to one's self, between work and play, or between indulgence and discipline.

This diet might be good for the body but that chocolate cupcake is good for the soul. You need some of both.

I'd rather do my best to stay fit while still enjoying the occasional splurge.

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[quote=Schneed10;567297]Though I will say I don't care how long this study says I will live, I'm not going to change what I do. Like anything else, balance is key in life. Whether it's balance between work and home, between family time and time to one's self, between work and play, or between indulgence and discipline.

[B]This diet might be good for the body but that chocolate cupcake is good for the soul. You need some of both.

I'd rather do my best to stay fit while still enjoying the occasional splurge.[/B] [/quote]

I think you can balance both. Being on a lifelong diet doesn't mean you can never splurge here and there.

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[quote=Beemnseven;567294]Two years is two years, but still -- if that's the payoff for a life of starving and denying yourself, I'm not all that impressed.[/quote]

I've been doing a reduced calorie diet for a few months now, and there's no starving involved. I'm actually pretty surprised at how much I can eat and still be in my target range. I've lost 20 pounds this summer so far and it's been pretty easy.

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That's about what I need to lose; maybe more like 25-30 lbs.

Can you give me a run-down on what you're eating and the quantities involved?

My biggest problem is late-nite munchies. Around 9 or 9:30 or so, I start getting the urge to pig out.

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[quote=Beemnseven;567336]That's about what I need to lose; maybe more like 25-30 lbs.

Can you give me a run-down on what you're eating and the quantities involved?

My biggest problem is late-nite munchies. Around 9 or 9:30 or so, I start getting the urge to pig out.[/quote]

I have an app on my iphone where I track everything I eat. That's the key, you really need to count your calories. It's a pain at first but eventually it becomes part of your routine and it really makes you think about what you're eating.

Based on your starting weight you'll need to determine how many calories you actually need everyday. Check out a site like this to get a basic idea

[url=http://www.ahealthyme.com/topic/calneed]Perfect calculator to determine whether you are overweight or not. | AHealthyMe.com[/url]

Basically, I stay between 1500-2500 calories per day. It's a good idea to mix up your calorie intake from day to day to keep your body guessing.

Exercise is of course a big part. I do at least 30 minutes of cardio 3-4 days per week and I also mix in some weights as well. I cut way back on red meat and alcohol too. When I do drink it's mostly light beer.

I can post some samples of what I eat on a daily basis later. I've got to run now.

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[quote=Mattyk72;567339]I have an app on my iphone where I track everything I eat. That's the key, you really need to count your calories. It's a pain at first but eventually it becomes part of your routine and it really makes you think about what you're eating.

Based on your starting weight you'll need to determine how many calories you actually need everyday. Check out a site like this to get a basic idea

[url=http://www.ahealthyme.com/topic/calneed]Perfect calculator to determine whether you are overweight or not. | AHealthyMe.com[/url]

Basically, I stay between 1500-2500 calories per day. It's a good idea to mix up your calorie intake from day to day to keep your body guessing.

Exercise is of course a big part. I do at least 30 minutes of cardio 3-4 days per week and I also mix in some weights as well. I cut way back on red meat and alcohol too. When I do drink it's mostly light beer.

I can post some samples of what I eat on a daily basis later. [B]I've got to run now[/B].[/quote]

Literally?

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[quote=Schneed10;567296]
Anyone with congestive heart failure, severe murmurs, valve problems, or COPD would be restricted in terms of physical activity, including sex. That encompasses a lot of people who are nowhere near death.[/quote]

So are you saying that people with those issues don't have sex even though they want to?
You said restricted to a life of NO SEX. (you have now changed it to "restricted in terms of physical activity") Maybe reduced, sure, but we both know most people don't listen, and to go out having sex is a pretty nice way to go. I have known people with CHF, COPD, and valve problems which included replacement. Only one had sex issues, but he took viagra (valve replacement). So not all that have those issues need to give up sex.
If you are changing your comment to say "may restrict sexual activity" then I will agree.

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[quote=jsarno;567260]Just for the record, I feel like eating what you want makes you happier, however, exercising makes you happy and healthy too, and you should be more concered about exercising than dieting. Just my opinion though.[/quote]

I agree for the most part. I don't smoke, and I'm in the gym for about an hour and a half 6 days a week, doing both cardio and a pretty intensive weight training routine . I also do a full body stretch before I workout and right before I go to bed (which works wonders for falling asleep quickly). Working out as often as possible is not only good for physical health, but all that oxygen in your blood makes you mentally sharper. The best few hours of my day are the ones right after I workout. I feel like a million bucks, and mentally I'm sharp as a tack. I know this may sound stupid or arrogant, but I'm proud of the way I look with my shirt off, and that's great for self confidence (not that I walk around shirtless for fun, but you get what I mean). A regular exercise routine should be mandatory for everyone who is physically capable. You will look and feel so much better, and obviously it will extend your life.

As far as diet, because of how much I exercise, I can cheat a lot more than most people and not really see an adverse affect. Plus all the exercise speeds up metabolism. I don't have much of a sweet tooth, so things like candy, donuts, etc are never an issue. I have a weakness for cheeseburgers/steaks, however I limit myself to one meal of red meat per week. I also love eggs, so I eat them a few times a week, but only the whites, no yolks. I don't drink much beer anymore- mostly red wine and single malt scotch, so not too many calories there.

I guess my point is to just be mindful. I'm not on a diet, but I make sensible choices. Everyone knows what's good to eat and what's not. Substitute some steamed veggies for those fries most of the time. Have some black coffee for a pick-me-up instead of coke, pepsi, or red bull. Eat some fish a few times a week. Stuff like that. Also, throughout the day it's better to eat less more than more less - like 4 or 5 small meals instead of 2 big meals. Doing so also keeps blood-sugar and energy levels stable, and curbs your appetite to the point where you'll have less of an urge to mow down that massive high calorie meal.

I would say I'm more a gym rat than a health nut, and I'm not trying to preach. IMO it's about moderation and being mindful with food, and frequent exercise.

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[quote=Beemnseven;567336]That's about what I need to lose; maybe more like 25-30 lbs.

Can you give me a run-down on what you're eating and the quantities involved?

My biggest problem is late-nite munchies. Around 9 or 9:30 or so, I start getting the urge to pig out.[/quote]

I lost 30 pounds, without changing my diet, when I moved to Colorado and started hiking mountains. You could always try that, if you like hiking.

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[quote=GMScud;567370]I agree for the most part. I don't smoke, and I'm in the gym for about an hour and a half 6 days a week, doing both cardio and a pretty intensive weight training routine . I also do a full body stretch before I workout and right before I go to bed (which works wonders for falling asleep quickly). Working out as often as possible is not only good for physical health, but all that oxygen in your blood makes you mentally sharper. The best few hours of my day are the ones right after I workout. I feel like a million bucks, and mentally I'm sharp as a tack. I know this may sound stupid or arrogant, but I'm proud of the way I look with my shirt off, and that's great for self confidence (not that I walk around shirtless for fun, but you get what I mean). A regular exercise routine should be mandatory for everyone who is physically capable. You will look and feel so much better, and obviously it will extend your life.

As far as diet, because of how much I exercise, I can cheat a lot more than most people and not really see an adverse affect. Plus all the exercise speeds up metabolism. I don't have much of a sweet tooth, so things like candy, donuts, etc are never an issue. I have a weakness for cheeseburgers/steaks, however I limit myself to one meal of red meat per week. I also love eggs, so I eat them a few times a week, but only the whites, no yolks. I don't drink much beer anymore- mostly red wine and single malt scotch, so not too many calories there.

I guess my point is to just be mindful. I'm not on a diet, but I make sensible choices. Everyone knows what's good to eat and what's not. Substitute some steamed veggies for those fries most of the time. Have some black coffee for a pick-me-up instead of coke, pepsi, or red bull. Eat some fish a few times a week. Stuff like that. Also, throughout the day it's better to eat less more than more less - like 4 or 5 small meals instead of 2 big meals. Doing so also keeps blood-sugar and energy levels stable, and curbs your appetite to the point where you'll have less of an urge to mow down that massive high calorie meal.

I would say I'm more a gym rat than a health nut, and I'm not trying to preach. IMO it's about moderation and being mindful with food, and frequent exercise.[/quote]

Do you grunt when you workout, so everyone can see how jacked and tan you are? ;)

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[quote=Mattyk72;567339]

Basically, I stay between 1500-2500 calories per day. It's a good idea to mix up your calorie intake from day to day to keep your body guessing.[/quote]

See I definitely don't see 2500 as a "reduced calorie" diet. Probably not even 1500. The FDA recommends 2000 a day for the average person.

It sounds to me what you're doing is just counting calories, eating healthy foods, and exercising. I'd call it the common sense plan.

When I saw the news story the other night about reduced calorie diets, I was thinking the extreme. All the people do is eat fruits and veggies, practically. They're hyper skinny, to the point where it appears skin is sagging off bones. I don't think you're on that plan, you're on the one that any doctor in the world would recommend, which is the one that works - common sense.

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[quote=jsarno;567365]So are you saying that people with those issues don't have sex even though they want to?
You said restricted to a life of NO SEX. (you have now changed it to "restricted in terms of physical activity") Maybe reduced, sure, but we both know most people don't listen, and to go out having sex is a pretty nice way to go. I have known people with CHF, COPD, and valve problems which included replacement. Only one had sex issues, but he took viagra (valve replacement). So not all that have those issues need to give up sex.
If you are changing your comment to say "may restrict sexual activity" then I will agree.[/quote]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm saying people with the heart ailments I listed are typically resticted by their cardiologists from having sex, or any other type of physical activity that may raise the blood pressure and heart rate in a similar manner. It's simple, the heart isn't working right, so don't work it too hard.

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[quote=Beemnseven;567336]That's about what I need to lose; maybe more like 25-30 lbs.

Can you give me a run-down on what you're eating and the quantities involved?

My biggest problem is late-nite munchies. Around 9 or 9:30 or so, I start getting the urge to pig out.[/quote]

Here's a sample of a typical day:

breakfast:
1 nutrigrain blueberry bar - 130 calories
2 homemade low fat waffles with a tiny bit of no sugar syrup - 210 calories

lunch:
2 grilled chicken sausage links - 260 calories
steamed mixed veggies (2 servings) - 120 calories

dinner:
1 broiled chicken breast - 213 calories
1 medium bake potato (dry) - 163 calories
1 large mixed greens salad w/cheese and croutons - 200 calories

snacks:
cheez-its (100 cal pack)
baked tortilla chips with salsa - 150 calories
goldfish crackers (100 cal pack)
1 mini drumstick ice cream cone - 130 calories

exercise
30 minutes on stair climber moderate intensity - burned 372 calories

Net calories for the day: 1404

I hear you on the late night snacking. But if you have a snack mid morning, mid afternoon, and another one a few hours after dinner, you shouldn't get those late night cravings. Plus I drink a lot of water, 8 glasses/day at least is a must. And I simply don't allow myself to eat after 8pm. Counting your calories really helps you realize what you're putting into your body.

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[quote]Plus I drink a lot of water, 8 glasses/day at least is a mus[/quote]

While I'm far from an expert, drinking water can make a huge difference. From what I understand, we can often confuse hunger and dehydration. I know when I drink a lot of water, I generally eat a lot less.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;567382]Do you grunt when you workout, so everyone can see how jacked and tan you are? ;)[/quote]

LOL. Actually I usually workout alone, and I'm my own little world with my I-pod. The majority of members at the health club I belong to in Bethesda are either 40+ working professionals, 60+ retirees, and high school kids. So no, I don't grunt or throw weights around. My demographic (30 year old, not married, no kids) is in the minority there. It's far from a meat head gym. :)

I've got a question for folks out there that hasn't been discussed in this thread - What kind of supplements are you taking? By supplements, I mean vitamins, omega-3's, protein, etc etc.

I'm currently taking GNC Mega Men Sport (time release), and omega 3 fish oils. If I leave the house and forget to take them, I can definitely tell throughout the day. After a workout, if I can't have a meal of some sort within 30 minutes or so, I try to have a protein bar or shake. I also have one scoop of [URL="http://www.vibranthealth.us/?p2=/modules/vibranthealth/products.jsp&category_id=86"]Green Vibrance[/URL] every day.

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[quote=Mattyk72;567393]Here's a sample of a typical day:

breakfast:
1 nutrigrain blueberry bar - 130 calories
2 homemade low fat waffles with a tiny bit of no sugar syrup - 210 calories

lunch:
2 grilled chicken sausage links - 260 calories
steamed mixed veggies (2 servings) - 120 calories

dinner:
1 broiled chicken breast - 213 calories
1 medium bake potato (dry) - 163 calories
1 large mixed greens salad w/cheese and croutons - 200 calories

snacks:
cheez-its (100 cal pack)
baked tortilla chips with salsa - 150 calories
goldfish crackers (100 cal pack)
1 mini drumstick ice cream cone - 130 calories

exercise
30 minutes on stair climber moderate intensity - burned 372 calories

Net calories for the day: 1404

I hear you on the late night snacking. But if you have a snack mid morning, mid afternoon, and another one a few hours after dinner, you shouldn't get those late night cravings. Plus I drink a lot of water, 8 glasses/day at least is a must. And I simply don't allow myself to eat after 8pm. Counting your calories really helps you realize what you're putting into your body.[/quote]

Thanks for the info; that doesn't sound so bad. I don't know about the dry baked potato though, I'd probably choke. I'm trying to incorporate more fish in my diet, and I know I have to exercise more.

I'm about 6'3" and flucuate between 240 and 250 with most of it around my waistline and my face. So something's got to be done.

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[quote=Beemnseven;567399]Thanks for the info; that doesn't sound so bad. I don't know about the dry baked potato though, I'd probably choke. I'm trying to incorporate more fish in my diet, and I know I have to exercise more.

I'm about 6'3" and flucuate between 240 and 250 with most of it around my waistline and my face. So something's got to be done.[/quote]

I'm 6'3 and was 246 when I started doing this, now I'm 223. I'd like to get down to 200 eventually.

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[quote=Mattyk72;567393]Here's a sample of a typical day:

breakfast:
[B]1 nutrigrain blueberry bar[/B] - 130 calories
2 homemade low fat waffles with a tiny bit of no sugar syrup - 210 calories

lunch:
2 grilled chicken sausage links - 260 calories
steamed mixed veggies (2 servings) - 120 calories

dinner:
1 broiled chicken breast - 213 calories
1 medium bake potato (dry) - 163 calories
1 large mixed greens salad w/cheese and croutons - 200 calories

snacks:
[B]cheez-its[/B] (100 cal pack)
baked tortilla chips with salsa - 150 calories
[B]goldfish crackers[/B] (100 cal pack)
1 mini drumstick ice cream cone - 130 calories

exercise
[B]30 minutes on stair climber[/B] moderate intensity - burned 372 calories

Net calories for the day: 1404

I hear you on the late night snacking. But if you have a snack mid morning, mid afternoon, and another one a few hours after dinner, you shouldn't get those late night cravings. Plus I drink a lot of water, 8 glasses/day at least is a must. And I simply don't allow myself to eat after 8pm. Counting your calories really helps you realize what you're putting into your body.[/quote]

Some of my favorite stuff. I love nutrigrain blueberry bars. I have a hard time just eating one. And I would bathe myself in cheez-its if it was socially acceptable.

For the stair climber, do you use the normal stair stepper, or the actual stairs that rotate (called a [URL="http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://di1.shopping.com/images1/pi/d8/77/65/25536775-100x100-0-0_Stairmaster_Stepmill_7000_Pt.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.shopping.com/-used%2Bstepmill%2Bstair%2Bclimber&usg=__gR-luj68nWNGzXMXTKmsShrW_BE=&h=100&w=100&sz=2&hl=en&start=16&sig2=79wep7Ew_cQiSabnzAsPug&um=1&tbnid=cfY5Tl55teWiJM:&tbnh=82&tbnw=82&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dstairmaster%2Brotating%2Bstairs%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DYv6%26sa%3DX%26um%3D1&ei=n1RaSvG-PMremQeyvoWfAQ"]stepmill[/URL])? I use the rotating stairs. It's great cardio. I'm drenched after 30 minutes on level 5.

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[quote=GMScud;567418]Some of my favorite stuff. I love nutrigrain blueberry bars. I have a hard time just eating one. And I would bathe myself in cheez-its if it was socially acceptable.

For the stair climber, do you use the normal stair stepper, or the actual stairs that rotate (called a [URL="http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://di1.shopping.com/images1/pi/d8/77/65/25536775-100x100-0-0_Stairmaster_Stepmill_7000_Pt.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.shopping.com/-used%2Bstepmill%2Bstair%2Bclimber&usg=__gR-luj68nWNGzXMXTKmsShrW_BE=&h=100&w=100&sz=2&hl=en&start=16&sig2=79wep7Ew_cQiSabnzAsPug&um=1&tbnid=cfY5Tl55teWiJM:&tbnh=82&tbnw=82&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dstairmaster%2Brotating%2Bstairs%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DYv6%26sa%3DX%26um%3D1&ei=n1RaSvG-PMremQeyvoWfAQ"]stepmill[/URL])? I use the rotating stairs. It's great cardio. I'm drenched after 30 minutes on level 5.[/quote]

I use the regular stair stepper, that thing kicks my ass enough as it is. 30 minutes and I look like someone dumped a bucket of water on me LOL

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Ok, I have to do this. I could not find the info but I'm guessing the Fed. Goverment funded alot of this test over the past 20 years. Did we or who ever spend the money for the testing think that they would have any other out come. Heck, I could have told them that stuff for free.

While on the subject of food I made the best fish (tuna) tacos Friday night that we had to have them again tonight. If anyone wants to know how to make them let me know as its not that hard.

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[quote=firstdown;567427]Ok, I have to do this. I could not find the info but I'm guessing the Fed. Goverment funded alot of this test over the past 20 years. Did we or who ever spend the money for the testing think that they would have any other out come. Heck, I could have told them that stuff for free.

While on the subject of food I made the best fish (tuna) tacos Friday night that we had to have them again tonight. If anyone wants to know how to make them let me know as its not that hard.[/quote]

Yeah, I'd like to know. I grilled some tilapia tonight for fish tacos. Pretty basic, but I wouldn't mind hearing your recipe

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[quote=SmootSmack;567431]Yeah, I'd like to know. I grilled some tilapia tonight for fish tacos. Pretty basic, but I wouldn't mind hearing your recipe[/quote]

If you're going to grill fish on an open flame, it better be pretty sturdy- i.e. Wahoo, Swordfish, Tuna. Otherwise, I'd advise baking or pan roasting. You can still cook a delicate fish on the grill, but you better do it in foil. In which case you might as well just use the stove and have more control. Tilapia is good fried, but I would hesitate to grill it. Any issues getting it off the grill or controlling the portions? It tends to fall apart so easily. Best cooked whole (head on, bones in) if anything.

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[quote=GMScud;567397]LOL. Actually I usually workout alone, and I'm my own little world with my I-pod. The majority of members at the health club I belong to in Bethesda are either 40+ working professionals, 60+ retirees, and high school kids. So no, I don't grunt or throw weights around. My demographic (30 year old, not married, no kids) is in the minority there. It's far from a meat head gym. :)

I've got a question for folks out there that hasn't been discussed in this thread - What kind of supplements are you taking? By supplements, I mean vitamins, omega-3's, protein, etc etc.

I'm currently taking GNC Mega Men Sport (time release), and omega 3 fish oils. If I leave the house and forget to take them, I can definitely tell throughout the day. After a workout, if I can't have a meal of some sort within 30 minutes or so, I try to have a protein bar or shake. I also have one scoop of [URL="http://www.vibranthealth.us/?p2=/modules/vibranthealth/products.jsp&category_id=86"]Green Vibrance[/URL] every day.[/quote]

I just take a multi-vitamin. I was taking fish oil for a while too and just kinda stopped. Couldn't seem to avoid the "fish burps". I took them after eating with a full glass of water and would still get them. Gross.

I should probably look into other supplements but I'm just not sure of where to start.

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[quote=SmootSmack;567431]Yeah, I'd like to know. I grilled some tilapia tonight for fish tacos. Pretty basic, but I wouldn't mind hearing your recipe[/quote]
For fish tacos I like either tuna or dolphin lightly blackened.
First I chunk up the fish.

I use a large iron skillet but I'm sure any skillet will work. I also do this outside so I don't smoke up the house.

I take the fish chunks and put them into a bag and add the blackening season. This you will need to play around with to get to your tast. I like for each peice to have a light coat. The stuff I use is the best seasoning I have found and will get you the name tonight.

I then get the pan very hot and add a good coat of butter.

I add the fish continually stirring them around as they cook very quick.
I find 5 to 7 min. at the most for the center to be nice and pink but its a fine line from done to over cooked.

My wife dices up tomatos and onions puts them in a bowl and then squezes fresh lime over them and lets it set for about an hour.

We then have shreaded cabbage (I know I'm not a fan of cabbage but it works in this case), cheese, and sour cream and make them to your tast.

Its an easy meal to make and the toughest thing about the meal is learning how to season and blacken the chuncks of fish. You do not want the chunks too big and I almost cut them in strips around 1/2 to 3/4 thick.
I would also suggest to season a chunk and cook one to see how it cooks and tast and repeat this a few times until you find the right combo of seasoning and cooking.

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[quote=GMScud;567442]If you're going to grill fish on an open flame, it better be pretty sturdy- i.e. Wahoo, Swordfish, Tuna. Otherwise, I'd advise baking or pan roasting. You can still cook a delicate fish on the grill, but you better do it in foil. In which case you might as well just use the stove and have more control. Tilapia is good fried, but I would hesitate to grill it. Any issues getting it off the grill or controlling the portions? It tends to fall apart so easily. Best cooked whole (head on, bones in) if anything.[/quote]

It wasn't my top choice to grill but it's all we had and we wanted to grill. It was a bit flaky but sturdy enough. You really just had to keep an eye on it and grill like 3 minutes max on each side. And yeah I put it in a foil.

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It's feeling very SBF in here this morning

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[quote=Mattyk72;567509]It's feeling very SBF in here this morning[/quote]


OMG! I was thinking the same thing. RIP SBF.