Dallas Cowboys release safety Roy Williams
 

IRVING - Roy Williams is no longer a Dallas Cowboy.
After attempts to trade the five-time Pro Bowl safety failed, the Cowboys decided to release Williams, their No. 1 draft pick in 2002.
By cutting Williams, the Cowboys save roughly $2 million in salary-cap space in 2009 and close the book on a player who was once the face of the franchise.

Anybody want a "one trick pony" in thier secondary?

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Cowboys are seriously cleaning house. I wonder if they're going to do the smart thing and realize that they (like us) aren't truly contenders right now and are going to start building from the ground up.

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Man, they are having a house cleaning. When is Jerry Jones releasing himself?

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Can he play Linebacker?

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[quote=Ruhskins;534173]Can he play Linebacker?[/quote]

I was about to ask the same question, because a lot of people have been speculating that teams are looking at him to possibly play the weakside in a 4-3 defense.

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Freeing up room for Ware's mega contract?

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Wow, Did Jerry hit his head and sign over authority to Stephen for a day???

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Damn, that's two in two days.

This is bigger news than the stimulus.

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[quote=SmootSmack;534176]I was about to ask the same question, because a lot of people have been speculating that teams are looking at him to possibly play the weakside in a 4-3 defense.[/quote]

I would ask him to bulk up 10 lbs. and put him at the WLB and move Rocky to SLB.

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[quote=Ruhskins;534182]I would ask him to bulk up 10 lbs. and put him at the WLB and move Rocky to SLB.[/quote]

Hmm, thats an interesting idea, but 10lbs wouldnt be enough. He'd really have to bulk up atleast 20lbs and maintain that weight the entire season... i dont think its realistic.

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Is there a link for this story?

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;534192]Hmm, thats an interesting idea, but 10lbs wouldnt be enough. He'd really have to bulk up atleast 20lbs and maintain that weight the entire season... i dont think its realistic.[/quote]

Well, I was comparing Rocky's weight to him. Rocky is listed as 238 lbs, Roy Williams is listed as 221 lbs.

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[quote=Rajmahal33;534194]Is there a link for this story?[/quote]

Here's a non-PFT link...

[url=http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/030609dnsporoywilliams.62144b2.html]Dallas Cowboys release safety Roy Williams | Sports News | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News[/url]

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Here's a link:

[url=http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/030609dnsporoywilliams.62144b2.html]Dallas Cowboys release safety Roy Williams | Sports News | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News[/url]

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From what Pat Kirwan is saying, the Cowboys have almost no money to free up. All of the base money on their contracts is really really low and turned into bonuses and such.

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[quote=Ruhskins;534195]Well, I was comparing Rocky's weight to him. Rocky is listed as 238 lbs, Roy Williams is listed as 221 lbs.[/quote]

gotcha, he'd need 17lbs to be at rockys weight, and rocky is a bit undersized as it is. Most 4-3 OLBs are above 240. Williams could bulk up maybe 10lbs in the offseason, but he'd lose alot of that weight as the season progressed. I know you were just throwing out an idea, and its certainly intriguing, but it would be a huge gamble for the skins or any team to take - they certainly wouldnt want to invest alot of money in him until they saw how he performed at a new position.

I honestly hope we sign someone like Crowell, bring Washington and Matt Sinclair back, and then pick up a LB in the 3rd round. that should be more than enough to solidify our LB position:

McIntosh, Fletcher, Washginton, Blades, Sinclair, Crowell, and a rookie would make for a pretty deep group.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;534203]gotcha, he'd need 17lbs to be at rockys weight, and rocky is a bit undersized as it is. Most 4-3 OLBs are above 240. Williams could bulk up maybe 10lbs in the offseason, but he'd lose alot of that weight as the season progressed. I know you were just throwing out an idea, and its certainly intriguing, but it would be a huge gamble for the skins or any team to take - they certainly wouldnt want to invest alot of money in him until they saw how he performed at a new position.[/quote]

It just hit me though that Williams is only 28 years old. For some reason I thought he was older than that (i.e. like John Lynch old).

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I wouldn't be surprised if the 49ers pick him up, he's from the SF Bay area and the Niners need S help.

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Roy Williams is a true strong safety, which is almost like a dying breed in today's nfl. People always said he was weak in coverage, but I always felt like he was weak in deep coverage.

A lot of TEs burned him too, but if you let him play the flats the way strong safeties used to play, he was good at hitting recievers across the middle & shutting down screens and dump offs. He just couldnt' cover man to man, and strong safeties these days are expected to do that at times due to the number of wr's and pass catching te's there are.

As for him playing here, we're stacked at safety & I can't see him bulking up enough to be a true LB. Maybe some team will sign him to use him as a nickel OLB & run stopping safety. He's not getting big $ anywhere, that's for sure.

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I think the Giants will get him. They don't have enough safties and d-linemen yet.

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[quote=Daseal;534201]From what Pat Kirwan is saying, the Cowboys have almost no money to free up. All of the base money on their contracts is really really low and turned into bonuses and such.[/quote]

That sounds familiar.

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[quote=Daseal;534201]From what Pat Kirwan is saying, the Cowboys have almost no money to free up. All of the base money on their contracts is really really low and turned into bonuses and such.[/quote]

according to their fan site, they have about $14million cap space. Now i doubt their experts are as good as ours but if you use that ballpark, I would think they have enough flexibility if they want it.

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This is good for the Cowpukes and bad for all the NFC East as w/o Roy back there policing the middle of the field, the gaping holes won't be very big any longer :-).

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Roy is a jaw breaker against the run and in goalline defense but I don't see how he would fit in here. We need a big linebacker not another safety.

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Old Roy. poor man lost a step. Gonna miss all the "horse collar" tackels.

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It could be fun watching Dallas this year.


Glad we won't have to play the dirtiest player in the NFL twice a year now, unless Philly gets him to (try to) replace Dawkins.

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So...Springs to Dallas to replace Roy Williams at Safety?

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[quote=Buster;534244]It could be fun watching Dallas this year.


Glad we won't have to play the dirtiest player in the NFL twice a year now, unless Philly gets him to (try to) replace Dawkins.[/quote]

Why would Philly sign Roy (zero coverage skills) and release Dawkins (declining coverage skills)?

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[quote=SmootSmack;534271]So...Springs to Dallas to replace Roy Williams at Safety?[/quote]

Id put it at 95% thats exactly what happens. Springs has probably wanted to play in Dallas his whole life.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;534273]Why would Philly sign Roy (zero coverage skills) and release Dawkins (declining coverage skills)?[/quote]

Why does Philly make a lot of their moves?

Why do they appear to be wanting Kevin Kolb to lead their team into the future? :D

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[quote=SmootSmack;534271]So...Springs to Dallas to replace Roy Williams at Safety?[/quote]

Hmm, Williams was hurt most of last year, Springs was hurt most of last year.. Sounds like a pretty good fit.

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[quote=Buster;534318]Why does Philly make a lot of their moves?

Why do they appear to be wanting Kevin Kolb to lead their team into the future? :D[/quote]

Philly is fairly predictable. They consistently build through the draft, they rarely overpay (Kearse is an example but he was a monster when they signed him, injuries took their toll), and they release anyone who begins to decline (especially if the player commands a big contract ie. Dawkins). They would always prefer to let a guy go a year early instead of having them one year too long.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;534356]Philly is fairly predictable. They consistently build through the draft, they rarely overpay (Kearse is an example but he was a monster when they signed him, injuries took their toll), and they release anyone who begins to decline (especially if the player commands a big contract ie. Dawkins). They would always prefer to let a guy go a year early instead of having them one year too long.[/quote]

well put, except I would say Samuel was really the exception to the rule for them.

Springs was just visiting there, so I guess they're not opposed to signing an old vet, but I would think only for a year.

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[quote=freddyg12;534363]well put, except I would say Samuel was really the exception to the rule for them.

Springs was just visiting there, so I guess they're not opposed to signing an old vet, but I would think only for a year.[/quote]

They probably view Samuel as a great player in his prime so he is worth the $.

If Springs goes there it would be for a lot less than the $8 million we were on the hook for and you are right, it wouldn't be a long deal.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;534356]Philly is fairly predictable. They consistently build through the draft[/quote]

True, but they've been one good WR away from winning it all, and while multiple playoff appearances are nice, they never took a risk and went after a #1 receiver to get them over the edge. Besides, if you don't call what we did last year (and what we can potentially do this year) building through the draft, I don't know what is.

[quote]they rarely overpay (Kearse is an example but he was a monster when they signed him, injuries took their toll)[/quote]

I think they overpaid for A. Samuels too, especially since they had Lito Shepard and Sheldon Brown in the DB. Once again, they could've gone after that #1 receiver.

[quote]and they release anyone who begins to decline (especially if the player commands a big contract ie. Dawkins). They would always prefer to let a guy go a year early instead of having them one year too long.[/quote]

I think Dawkins is the only player that may fit in this category. Someone mentioned in a thread a few weeks ago that the Redskins hold on to players and don't let them go. Well the Eagles have held on McNabb for too long. He's a good player but he's also a diva and a bit of a prick. Every year many I wonder why the Eagles don't get good value out of him. Let's not forget that save for last year, McNabb has been a bit injury ridden.

Now can we give the compliment-orgy of other NFC East teams' FO for a bit? I know our FO is not the best, but don't rub it in, ok?

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His range as a safety has always been questioned but he plays hard to the ball which is something the Skins could sure use. I'd be willing to give the guy a shot at OLB if he's up for the challenge.

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[quote=John Denny;534566]His range as a safety has always been questioned but he plays hard to the ball which is something the Skins could sure use. I'd be willing to give the guy a shot at OLB if he's up for the challenge.[/quote]

No thanks. The guy can't stay healthy.

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springs signed with the Patriots yesterday.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;534356]Philly is fairly predictable. They consistently build through the draft, they rarely overpay (Kearse is an example but he was a monster when they signed him, injuries took their toll), and they release anyone who begins to decline (especially if the player commands a big contract ie. Dawkins). They would always prefer to let a guy go a year early instead of having them one year too long.[/quote]

Very predictable indeed, they will never win a Super Bowl. :)