Colin Powell endorses Obama
 

Big deal? Not important? You decide.

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081019/pl_politico/14714]Powell endorses Obama as 'transformational' - Yahoo! News[/url]

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Not surprising, but (in my opinion) Powell is one of those guys who when he speaks you listen. I would have loved to seen him on a presidential ticket. I tend to agree with him when he says it's not so much about McCain but about his fears of the direction of the Republican party.

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Pretty significant if you ask me.

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That's a nice endorsement but hardly changes anything. What's more news worthy is that Obama raised more than [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/20/us/politics/20donate.html?hp"]150 million dollars in September[/URL].

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Wow. The guy knows how to raise money, for sure.

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[quote=SmootSmack;491205]Not surprising, but (in my opinion) Powell is one of those guys who when he speaks you listen. I would have loved to seen him on a presidential ticket. I tend to agree with him when he says it's not so much about McCain but about his fears of the direction of the Republican party.[/quote] Bingo. Maybe getting throttled this year will end up being a positive thing for the Repubs in the long term.

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While I don't agree with Barack Obama philisophically on most issues, the one area where I favor him over McCain is temperament.

Obama strikes me as someone who is more thoughtful, more introspective and level-headed. McCain appears as more impulsive, acting from the gut. And his first instinct appears to be violence. Now, that may be a product of his military background. But we've had eight years of a president and an administration who obviously acts without thinking things through.

It's time for a departure from that.

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Full endorsement in full context...it's the most reasoned endorsement I have ever seen:

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The picture he's talking about:

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Much respect to C. Powell. Had he run, he would have my vote as well.

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Anybody hear Rush Limbaugh on this issue ?

He's mixing a speech from Obama reacting to his new supporter with Powell's speech to the U.N. on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

Obviously asking the question of why Obama is so pleased with the endorsement of a person who initially opposed him on the Iraq war.

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Ok, Powell Supports Obama, but does Obama support [B]Colin[/B]? It would be pretty [B]shitty[/B] if he didn't.

...Pause for effect....

Somebody still doesn't get it.

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[quote=Angry;492077]Ok, Powell Supports Obama, but does Obama support Colin? It would be pretty shitty if he didn't.

...Pause for effect....

Somebody still doesn't get it.[/quote]


Support Colin for what? Powell isn't running for public office. Can't you accept support from someone who doesn't totally agree with you?

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[quote=Beemnseven;492079]Support Colin for what? Powell isn't running for public office. Can't you accept support from someone who doesn't totally agree with you?[/quote]


You have proved my point.

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The only thing Rush Limbaugh is suggesting is that this endorsement is [URL="http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/Limbaugh_Where_are_the_inexperienced_white_liberals_Powell_has_endorsed.html"]based on race[/URL]. Black guy supporting another black guy.

[quote]"Secretary Powell says his endorsement is not about race," Limbaugh wrote in an e-mail. "OK, fine. I am now researching his past endorsements to see if I can find all the inexperienced, very liberal, white candidates he has endorsed. I'll let you know what I come up with."[/quote]Perhaps Powell wants to redeem himself? Doesn't want to make the same mistake by endorsing a pro war implosive guy like McCain? I mean, he did walk away from the Bush administration after all. Nah, not sexy enough. This is pure unadulterated black racism.

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[quote=Angry;492081]You have proved my point.[/quote]

Okay, help me out here: What point are you trying to make, exactly?

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[quote=Angry;492077]Ok, Powell Supports Obama, but does Obama support [B]Colin[/B]? It would be pretty [B]shitty[/B] if he didn't.

...Pause for effect....

Somebody still doesn't get it.[/quote]

It is a pun, and no longer funny because I had to explain it. Maybe it was never funny.

OK, I FAIL.

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Rush at his best...he forgot to say Powell is a RINO.

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Big endorsement...........timing is interesting. Why not at the DNC, or months ago?

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I think that has to be the most well thought out reasoning anyone has had about both candidates.

He couldn't have summed up this muslim phobia any better. Rush Limbaugh is a washed up racist. Just ask McNabb.

I am actually fearful of how radical the two parties have become, but I have lost the most faith in the Republican party at this time. They need to refocus on what matters. Lets hope that whomever wins, they put the people first, and as of right now that appears to be the Obama camp.

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[quote=saden1;491922]Full endorsement in full context...it's the most reasoned endorsement I have ever seen:[/quote]
One of the better You Tube clips you've posted.

Don't agree with Powell on some of his points or his final choice, but he has made a thoughtful choice. I wish all folks voting would look at the candidates and issues as thoughtfully (not suggesting anyone here doesn't do that).

I don't know WTF Rush is talking about, he certainly isn't helping McCain's chances with his nonsense. Way to not alienate undecideds/moderates Rush ?????

Powell mentioned twice that the GOP has moved too far to the right. On social issues, he's correct. On fiscal issues, the Bush administration has ballooned gov't spending more than Clinton did. Certainly nothing conservative happened spending wise in the last 8 years.

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Rush is a total crackpot. Anyone who takes him seriously needs to get their head examined.

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Everyone should watch the Colin Powell clip. A very thorough, rational, and level headed thought process. We need more folks like him in office.

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[quote=Mattyk72;492286]Everyone should watch the Colin Powell clip. A very thorough, rational, and level headed thought process. We need more folks like him in office.[/quote]
Unfortunately.....we will not be getting him. Not now at least

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No secret that I lean republican, usually but not all of the time. That being said I can't stand Rush L.

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whats the difference between what Limbaugh said, and Don Imus? what a buffoon. and Colin Powell just reeks of class, and intelligence. i guess there isn't any place for guys his caliber in public office

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Powell is the kind of moderate Republican I could actually consider voting for.

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[quote=Mattyk72;492460]Powell is the kind of moderate Republican I could actually consider voting for.[/quote]

I work with his daughter. Lucky me!

I thought Powell was an absolute lock to be either the Presidential or VP nominee both in 1996 and in 2000.

But what you wrote about Powell, many said about McCain just a year ago. Unfortunately those of us who are moderate Republicans are being gradually pushed away from our party and I thought that maybe a relatively moderate Republican like McCain would remind people such as myself that we are important to the the party and should feel welcomed.

Instead he appealed to the far right by selecting Sarah Palin to be his VP. And it's not the selection of Palin specifically that bothers me, it's that I feel McCain caved and did what he didn't want to do. If I'm not confident he can stand up to his own party even at his own expense, how can I know he'll do it across party lines? Across international lines?

Or is it safe to say "well he's done it before, why can't he do it again?" Well he's not doing it during the most important months of his career. And that's really disapponting to me.

I think it's disappointing to Powell to and I hope that his words and a possible loss in two weeks will serve as a wake up call to the GOP so that in 2012 I can vote again for the Republican candidate...Rell/Schwarzenegger 2012!!!

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Powell seems to be pretty clear on this, not much to say positive for McCain and not a single negative to say about Obama. I'm surprised it took him so long to announce this decision, since I'd wager he's been 98% sure for some time.

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[quote=SmootSmack;492503]I work with his daughter. Lucky me!

I thought Powell was an absolute lock to be either the Presidential or VP nominee both in 1996 and in 2000.

But what you wrote about Powell, many said about McCain just a year ago. Unfortunately those of us who are moderate Republicans are being gradually pushed away from our party and I thought that maybe a relatively moderate Republican like McCain would remind people such as myself that we are important to the the party and should feel welcomed.

Instead he appealed to the far right by selecting Sarah Palin to be his VP. And it's not the selection of Palin specifically that bothers me, it's that I feel McCain caved and did what he didn't want to do. If I'm not confident he can stand up to his own party even at his own expense, how can I know he'll do it across party lines? Across international lines?

Or is it safe to say "well he's done it before, why can't he do it again?" Well he's not doing it during the most important months of his career. And that's really disapponting to me.

I think it's disappointing to Powell to and I hope that his words and a possible loss in two weeks will serve as a wake up call to the GOP so that in 2012 I can vote again for the Republican candidate...Rell/Schwarzenegger 2012!!![/quote]
I may be wrong, but I believe we'll need a Constitutional Ammendment before you can vote for that ticket.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;492508]I may be wrong, but I believe we'll need a Constitutional Ammendment before you can vote for that ticket.[/quote]

No he's not eligible. I was just playing around...Someone/Smootsmack 2012!!!!

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;492505]Powell seems to be pretty clear on this, not much to say positive for McCain and not a single negative to say about Obama. I'm surprised it took him so long to announce this decision, since I'd wager he's been 98% sure for some time.[/quote]

Interesting. All the negatives he pointed out were in reference to recent events/conduct by the McCain camp. I guess the question is how much time is some time? It is certainly possible he was leaning towards Obama and it is certainly possible McCain pushed him over the ledge and into Obama's waiting arms. I don't know how you can be probabilistically certain one way or another.

p.s. I still don't get undecided voters but if that's how they feel that's how they really feel.

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I tend to agree with the sentiments reflected here

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/20/AR2008102002292.html]Richard Cohen - Party Like It's 1964 - washingtonpost.com[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;492511]No he's not eligible. I was just playing around...Someone/Smootsmack 2012!!!![/quote]
I'm there. Just give me a cabinet position, DoD. See Rod Steiger in Mars Attacks LOL

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[quote=SmootSmack;492511]No he's not eligible. I was just playing around...Someone/Smootsmack 2012!!!![/quote]

I can't believe you referred to me as someone ;)

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[quote=Mattyk72;492460]Powell is the kind of moderate Republican I could actually consider voting for.[/quote]
Same here

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[url=http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/22/campaign.wrap/]With big lead, Obama says McCain is 'running out of time' - CNN.com[/url]