Gibran Hamdan
 

What do you guys think about this guy. Gibbs has a lot of peopel on the roster right now and might not have room for him on the practice squad. Hes obviously not going to be on the roster, he hasnt had any snaps. What do you guys think will happen with him. He did play well in Europe this year.

It'll be a shame to lose him, he's got talent but he's up against it with Brunell, Ramsey and Hasslebeck ahead of him.

I'd like to see him on the practice squad at the very least.

yea I agree. Hes young and has progressed, hopefully we will keep him on the practice squad and start to grrom him more, Brunell is 34.

i'm not sold on him... i saw him in europe, and he did a lot of nothing special there too... I wouldn't be sad to see him go and use his spot for someone else, but the may keep him around anyways.

Nah...they'll put guys on the practice squad who have at least played during the preseason. Sorry Gibran...looks like its cutsville for you

I think we should cut him. While I do not see him practice, I did watch his games for NFL Europe. CUT HIM

If we don't see him play in the preseason, then I thinks he's gone. We should be ok with 3 qb's.

With 2 younger guys in Ramsey and Hasselbeck already on the team I don't see much of a place for Hamdan.

If I had to guess I'd say he'll get cut.

I dont know, he was the only person last year who knew the words to hail to the redskins wich means to me that he grew up a fan.now that gibbs is back he might be stepping up his game and doing anything he can to stay on the team.This is just a guess but who knows.

can he play strong safety?....

seriously though, from what I saw in practice he has a pretty strong arm but really no sense of how to run the offense. I have a feeling they'll cut him and take their chances they can pick him up later (mid-season, off-season?) if they absolutely have to.

I think its Elimination Time. Snip Snip Snip.

i'd love to see him atleast once during preseason to make a judgement. I didn't get to see him in NFL Europe.

they havent even given him a chance, lets see him play a little before we write him off

I think of it like this. He has physical talent and the ability to put the ball in the right place, but he lacks maybe the finesse for an NFL offense. So maybe the latter can be coached into him. If it can, put him on the practice squad, because you never know when you need that 3rd QB.

The way I see it, if Hasselbeck continues to improve, he won't want to be 3rd string much longer, and I can't see them letting Ramsey go unless he can't get out of this funk he's in. So assuming all 4 QB's play/practice well, come next year we lose Hasselbeck to another team, and we lose Brunell (to retirement) the year after. I for one can't see us using any picks on QB's in the next 2 drafts, considering our likely needs, so if we develop Hamdan into a potential 2nd string if not starter, then it costs us little. AND we keep a guy with experience in the system and the players.

PS the guy and see what happens.

he's played a bunch ;), just not this preseason... he doesn't move or command the offense... I have no doubts that he's a really good guy, but that doesn't win games.

thing is its kinda sad that he doesnt play, cuz it was his dream to be a redskin, being from the area. i think he would be very loyal to the organization if he were to ever blossom into anything, keep him on the practice squad.

I like the idea of having a QB on the practice squad... Just not sure that they couldn't find a better project after the cuts.

Hamdan is a major project, I don't see Gibbs keeping him around to develop, not when he has Ramsey and Hasselbeck to tutor behind Brunell.

He's been playing with NFL Europe, but not sure how well he was doing...? He's young & Spurriers product. I don't see Gibbs giving him much of a look. He might just use Gibrans spot for a backup O-linemen or D-back..?

I don't see them keeping Gibran :nono:

But he is a hometown boy. Gibbs likes those local kids. And Gibbs likes those strong arms. Maybe he'll stay? (I doubt it, but what the hey...)

I go strongly against the majority of you on this one. Not room on the PS?? Sure there is. There are very few guys on the roster that even qualify for the squad. Costs Gibbs nothing to put him there. And almost every team will have a QB on their PS. Gibbs will not be an exception. Hamdan's limited duty in Europe showed well for him. The reason he has not had game time is that there is so MUCH for the other 3 guys to learn and so much evaluation to be done. The only way he WON'T be on the PS is if they find what they feel is a stronger prospect for it.

Maybe
 

Maybe he can take Ade Jimoh's place.

Ade dont even have a place, man he sucks ass at football

After this next game, I'm sure we'll see Ade go for the Aug 31st cuts.

If Hamdan had any chance of making this team he would have taken a few snaps in the fourth quarter of one of these games already.

[QUOTE=Hogskin]There are very few guys on the roster that even qualify for the squad.[/QUOTE]

Can someone explain how the practice squad works, who you can put on it, and what the ramifications are? Thanks.

I do not have the final NFL Europe stats here - and I'm too lazy to go and look them up - but halfway through the season over there, Hamdan's QB Rating was about 70. Sorry folks, that is not something so stunning that it jumps off the pages of his resume and demands that he be noticed. If the Skins starting QB/QBs have ratings anywhere near 70 this year, look for another 5-11 season!!

Hamdan's only real shot at staying here is to be on the practice squad. However, there is a rule about how many years a team can keep him on the practice squad and this would be his second year on the Skins' squad. I THINK that two is the limit, but I'm only 90% sure of that. If that is the limit, Gibbs would have to think he could make the jump to the real squad next year or else there is no real purpose in keeping him on the practice squad.

Anyone out there know the rules about practice squads spelled out in the collective bargaining agreement?

Practice squad rules are here:
[url]http://www.nflpa.org/Members/main.asp?subPage=CBA+Complete#art34[/url]

Amended to 8 players for 2004s:
[url]http://www.nflpa.org/Members/main.asp?subPage=Practice+Squad+Changes[/url]

EEich:

Thankx!

[QUOTE=EEich]Practice squad rules are here:
[url]http://www.nflpa.org/Members/main.asp?subPage=CBA+Complete#art34[/url]

Amended to 8 players for 2004s:
[url]http://www.nflpa.org/Members/main.asp?subPage=Practice+Squad+Changes[/url][/QUOTE]

Thanks!

thats a useful site ;) and the contract language is much easier to read than most lawyer-speak, but just as articulate.

It's the official website of the players union.

[QUOTE=That Guy]thats a useful site ;) and the contract language is much easier to read than most lawyer-speak, but just as articulate.[/QUOTE]

i know :D

Well, there are a lot of naysayers on this one, but I still have not seen one decent reason that Hamdan won't make the squad. Of course he will not make the 53-man roster. That was never a consideration. But as I said earlier, I can't imagine why they would just discard him when they don't have 8 guys to fill the squad. They can always drop him later if they like, it counts nothing against the cap, he has gone through training camp learning the system, and QB is the most injury prone position in the NFL. Gibbs likes ALL of his bases covered.

well, i didnt know the PS rules... i can't name 8 guys to even put on PS this year... still, his chances are completely dependent on who else can be placed on the PS and how well they do... i'd consider him a luxury and nothing more.

he wasn't very good in europe... not dominant, not that accurate etc...