Randy Moss Not Franchised
 

BREAKING NEWS!!! ESPN reported Randy Moss is a clear free agent now will Synder throw the money at him?

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God I hope not.

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[quote=schndr_tdd;424777]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]


I get the strangest feeling that you dont want Randy Moss

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Hey, he is the best reciever in the NFL, possibly ever. He obviously can work with a winner. If we can, we should sign him.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;424781]Hey, he is the best reciever in the NFL, possibly ever. He obviously can work with a winner. If we can, we should sign him.[/quote]


you are going to be burned alive for saying that[IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/icons/icon12.gif[/IMG]

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Did they say that the Pats were still trying to sign him?

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Hope not either but if DS wanted Chad Johnson for his size and overall talent level it would be cheaper for him to get Randy. But I would rather have CJ tho.

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hmmm Vet minimum?

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[quote=Stacks42;424785][B]hmmm Vet minimum?[/B][/quote]


We will see ohw that works out

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[quote=Stacks42;424785]hmmm Vet minimum?[/quote]

Chosen salary of the Warpath!

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[quote=Stacks42;424785]hmmm Vet minimum?[/quote]

That's funny! :lol:

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its going to take 10-13 million to sign Randy, maybe more.

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He won't leave the Pats as long as thier offer is competitive and i don't see how the skins will have the cap room to blow him away with an offer. I would rather pass anyway...he is not reformed...all he proved is that he can behave himself on a 16-0 team.

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[quote=celts32;424798]He won't leave the Pats as long as thier offer is competitive and i don't see how the skins will have the cap room to blow him away with an offer. I would rather pass anyway...he is not reformed...all he proved is that he can behave himself on a 16-0 team.[/quote]
Well, I think you are mistaken, he was one of the main reasons the Patriots were 16-0.

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I suspect he'll resign with the Patriots, if he hasn't already

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[QUOTE=celts32;424798]He won't leave the Pats as long as thier offer is competitive and i don't see how the skins will have the cap room to blow him away with an offer. I would rather pass anyway...he is not reformed...all he proved is that he can behave himself on a 16-0 team.[/QUOTE]

I don't think his issues are as severe as others (ie: TO, Chad Johnson), but you are right in the fact that he won every game, so there was no need to complain. If that stops happening, will we see the darker side of Randy Moss? I say yes.

TOkilla, I think you are incorrect in saying he will get 10-13mil. I say he will get closer to what the franchise tag would have cost...around 7-8 mil. He is older, and everyone knows he won't have Brady and that offense to get him his numbers. So if you are correct and someone does give him 10-13 mil, I will laugh my ass off cause that team is stupid.

(please don't make me laugh at the Skins Mr. Snyder)

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;424809]I suspect he'll resign with the Patriots, if he hasn't already[/QUOTE]

I think that too...and it will be for a "hometown discount".

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If I were Randy I think I would prefer to stay with a QB like Tom Brady than have to suffer thru the growing pains of JC.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;424781]Hey, he is the best reciever in the NFL, possibly ever. He obviously can work with a winner. If we can, we should sign him.[/quote]

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[quote=freddyg12;424783]Did they say that the Pats were still trying to sign him?[/quote]

they and every other team in the NFL would be stupid not to attempt to do so...no two ways about it, he makes your team better (assuming no attitude issues...which may or may not be a valid assumption).
if he's smart, he would give the pats a discount...Brady will make him legendary.

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He wants to win a Super Bowl, why would he sign for the Redskins?

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Well I have a feeling there some people in the Redskins front office who don' think this is quite as bad an idea as most of you do....that being said, I put the odds of him signing here between .1 and 1 percent.

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I wish we could get him, but we could spend that money on a DL, OL and a WR and still have change, plus it would be nice to get someone a little younger

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I hope the huge limb I am stepping out on doesn't break:
Randy Moss will be a Cowboy next season. Romo will throw for 5000 yards. They will lose in the opening round of the playoffs.

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In all likelihood Moss will probably resign with the Patriots reguardless... HOWEVER.. I would not be the least bit surprised to see teams (who need a WR) like the Eagles throw big bucks at him.. I'd say that's his only chance of leaving.

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There is NO way Randy Moss becomes a Redskins. COnsistent Tom Brady versus NEW COACH AND RISING QB?

I think he wants a ring, and respects the game to much...

He's staying in NE

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[quote=rypper11;424850]I hope the huge limb I am stepping out on doesn't break:
Randy Moss will be a Cowboy next season. Romo will throw for 5000 yards. They will lose in the opening round of the playoffs.[/quote]


and then maybe a night rainbow will come out and we can dance on it with the leprachaun from lucky charms (his name was lucky)

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;424880]and then maybe a night rainbow will come out and we can dance on it with the leprachaun from lucky charms (his name [B]was[/B] lucky)[/QUOTE]

Did lucky die?

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we're tooo streaky of a team to keep him happy...couple of bad games from Campbell and he'll be badmouthing him on sportscenter

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[QUOTE=love them hogs;424888]Did lucky die?[/QUOTE]

i guess the kids finally caught him

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Let's try to be objective here for just a moment:

At the top of his game, Randy Moss is better than ANY WR the Redskins have put on the field since Bobby Mitchell retired - - and maybe he's even better than Bobby Mitchell. None of the heroes this team has put on the field for the past decade can even aspire to be a jock-sniffer in the elite status that Randy Moss and a few other WRs in NFL history inhabit.

In case I haven't made myself clear, Randy Moss is so much better than any WR the Redskins have been able to put on the field in the past 30 years that it isn't even worthy of discussion.

So ... should the Skins try to sign him? No!

Randy Moss has shown in college and in the NFL that he excels under two different sets of circumstances:

1. HE is THE man and the focus of ALL the offensive accolades for the team.

or

2. The team is destined for the Super Bowl - - or better yet - - is destined to be undefeated for the season.

Neither of these conditions is likely to obtain in Washington in 2008 or 2009 or 2010 and that's the length of time - at a minimum - it will take to sign Moss and pay him and have his guaranteed money spread out sufficiently that it does not turn him into a salary cap nightmare.

Bottom Line: He's not worth the risk/cost.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;424944]Let's try to be objective here for just a moment:

At the top of his game, Randy Moss is better than ANY WR the Redskins have put on the field since Bobby Mitchell retired - - and maybe he's even better than Bobby Mitchell. None of the heroes this team has put on the field for the past decade can even aspire to be a jock-sniffer in the elite status that Randy Moss and a few other WRs in NFL history inhabit.

In case I haven't made myself clear, Randy Moss is so much better than any WR the Redskins have been able to put on the field in the past 30 years that it isn't even worthy of discussion.


I would be willing to discuss Art Monk vs. Moss on more than one level. I think it's worthy of a discussion.

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Speedy Duncan:

Art Monk was a great WR. He is in the HoF and it took too long for him to get there.

In their primes, Randy Moss is simply a better WR than Art Monk was. That is not to demean Monk; it is just a recognition that there have been better WRs in the NFL than Art Monk and Randy Moss is one of them.

By the way, Jerry Rice was another one of them. So was ...

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If I was Randy Moss, super bowl or not, I dont think I would like being under apreciated as much as the New Enland Patriots have underapreciated him. Tom Brady and BB come out and say all this great stuff about Randy and then they dont franchise him or even sign him at a high proce to say "hey we understand how big a part of the team you were last season" to me that is a slap in the face. If I were say Randy Moss I would take a different route to a place where a teams front office might appreciate him more.

Would I like to see him in B&G, I haved mixed feelings on that and you cant say he effects the offense where ever he goes just look what he did in Oakland. He may be a risky investment but maybe he can make some slacker team a contender.

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he took a 6mill paycut to join the pats last year, and kraft is a VERY rich owner with more cap room than us. I think not franchising him was a gesture of respect, and I'd still bet the house he's in NE when it's said and done.

you can't argue the results, and I'd imagine the guys in the locker room love him and his 22 TDs something fierce.

he's probably got 5 more good years left, as weird as that sounds (seems like he's been around forever), and while he'd definitely give us a huge offensive boost, I can't see him wanting to come here and we can't afford him anyways.

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you guys make me laugh. remember back when Moss walked off the field against Washington before the game was over? just about everyone around here said nothing but how big a cancer he is, and hoped he never would suit up in D.C. as for the patriots not franchising him, i don't think its out of respect. name one player the patriots have gone out of their way to show respect to. they have had some of their own walk away, without an inkling of gratitude. i say he ends up elsewhere. and in my opinion, not here

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[quote=dmek25;424985]you guys make me laugh. remember back when Moss walked off the field against Washington before the game was over? just about everyone around here said nothing but how big a cancer he is, and hoped he never would suit up in D.C. as for the patriots not franchising him, i don't think its out of respect. name one player the patriots have gone out of their way to show respect to. they have had some of their own walk away, without an inkling of gratitude. i say he ends up elsewhere. and in my opinion, not here[/quote]

how many of those players had 22 receiving TDs and brady's full backing?

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i really think Randy Moss is all about Randy Moss. who ever gives him the fattest contract, is where he will end up. i guess time will tell

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;424944]Let's try to be objective here for just a moment:

At the top of his game, Randy Moss is better than ANY WR the Redskins have put on the field since Bobby Mitchell retired - - and maybe he's even better than Bobby Mitchell. None of the heroes this team has put on the field for the past decade can even aspire to be a jock-sniffer in the elite status that Randy Moss and a few other WRs in NFL history inhabit.

In case I haven't made myself clear, Randy Moss is so much better than any WR the Redskins have been able to put on the field in the past 30 years that it isn't even worthy of discussion.

So ... should the Skins try to sign him? No!

Randy Moss has shown in college and in the NFL that he excels under two different sets of circumstances:

1. HE is THE man and the focus of ALL the offensive accolades for the team.

or

[b]2. The team is destined for the Super Bowl - - or better yet - - is destined to be undefeated for the season.[/b]

Neither of these conditions is likely to obtain in Washington in 2008 or 2009 or 2010 and that's the length of time - at a minimum - it will take to sign Moss and pay him and have his guaranteed money spread out sufficiently that it does not turn him into a salary cap nightmare.

Bottom Line: He's not worth the risk/cost.[/quote]


Have you considered that Moss's accomplishments were a major factor in the Patriots undefeated regular season?

23 TD's in a season (new NFL record), lets take away HALF of those TD's he caught and say he only caught 12 as a "mortal" reciever.

Does NE have an undefeated regular season then? How many games in the last half of the season did they win by less than 6 points? Plenty.

Just saying that he is not looking for an undefeated season, but rather he was a reason for that undefeated regular season.

I do hear what you are saying though. Moss is a very one-dimensional player. It is the deep ball or nothing. If he was really that good, he would not have been a bust in Oakland. Problem was in Oakland by the time Moss looked for the ball the QB was already on his back. Lousy O-line.

Moss is not the guy to go over the middle and get those tough yards in the middle of the secondary.