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skinsfan242 02-19-2008 02:18 PM

Dream (but Realistic) Offseason
 
Big FA's: Alan Faneca (OG) & Albert Haynesworth (DT).

Moderate FA's: Drayton Florence (CB), Victor Hobson (OLB)

Draft: Malcom Kelly 1st round, Safety second round, OT third round.

Resign: Collins

Shores up positions of need with hopefully not spending too much.

Eknox 02-19-2008 02:30 PM

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I'm definatley with you on Haynesworth he's a BEAST , Florence would be nice , but I'd love it if we drafted Cromartie in the 1st round, I'm not sold on C Rogers even if he was healthy...get a big target receiver in the 3rd or 4th rounds that's where the good onwes are usually found, get some O line depth,DE in the 2nd round ..and were good to go

GMScud 02-19-2008 02:38 PM

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It's actually not realistic because Haynesworth is almost certainly going to be franchised, which means we'd have to give up at least a 1st and a 4th to get him. So there goes Malcolm Kelly in the 1st round.

It's fun to dream though.

Smooter 02-19-2008 02:45 PM

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Im all for a guy who stomps on cowboys.

halodoc 02-19-2008 03:04 PM

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with how much dockery got last year from the bills ,i dont see us being able to make a push faneca. i do see us bring in sea g f.wolmack as a cheaper back up. also i think theyll go for dj hackett wr from sea aswell ,to give us wr depth and to teach the system. haynsworth would be awsome ,but i think we have a better chance at coery willams dt from green bay. i do agree with the drayton florence cb from sd and lb from the jets v.hobson or even lb boss bailey from det.and the 1st two picks in the draft a de and db,and in the 3 rnd a ol. so wolmack and 3rd rnd ol for depth , d florence and db in 1st or 2nd rnd for borderline stater/good back ups ,dj wr starter/teacher free agent olb possiable starter,and c.willams dt and 1st/2nd rnd de would be starters.

halodoc 02-19-2008 03:11 PM

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1st rnd pick would be -c.cambell de ,k.phillips s ,d.r-cromtie , or lawerence jackson(dont think talib cb or d.harvey de will get to us)
and in 2nd c.ellis de,t.zibikski s ,c.godfrey cb ,b.flowers cb or j.adams s
3rd rnd-m.pollack c/og ,joe greco ot, e.young og , or h.bedict ot

MTK 02-19-2008 03:20 PM

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[quote=halodoc;423974]with how much dockery got last year from the bills ,i dont see us being able to make a push faneca. i do see us bring in sea g f.wolmack as a cheaper back up. also i think theyll go for dj hackett wr from sea aswell ,to give us wr depth and to teach the system. haynsworth would be awsome ,but i think we have a better chance at coery willams dt from green bay. i do agree with the drayton florence cb from sd and lb from the jets v.hobson or even lb boss bailey from det.and the 1st two picks in the draft a de and db,and in the 3 rnd a ol. so wolmack and 3rd rnd ol for depth , d florence and db in 1st or 2nd rnd for borderline stater/good back ups ,dj wr starter/teacher free agent olb possiable starter,and c.willams dt and 1st/2nd rnd de would be starters.[/quote]

Faneca isn't going to get crazy money because of his age.

sandtrapjack 02-19-2008 03:23 PM

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[quote=skinsfan242;423950]Big FA's: Alan Faneca (OG) & Albert Haynesworth (DT).

Moderate FA's: Drayton Florence (CB), Victor Hobson (OLB)

Draft: Malcom Kelly 1st round, Safety second round, OT third round.

Resign: Collins

Shores up positions of need with hopefully not spending too much.[/quote]

Ditto on Haynesworth, he will get tagged by Tenn.

Florence would be a nice pick up, but the word is once he hits the street he is anxious to reunite with his former D-coordinator, Wade Phillips. And Phillips wants another corner. If Florence is not signed by Dallas in the first week of Free Agency, it means the Cowboys are probably targeting Aqib Talib in the first round.

I am definitely onboard with the Redskins taking Malcom Kelly with thier first pick. Nice pick!
[quote=Mattyk72;423983]Faneca isn't going to get crazy money because of his age.[/quote]

He is 31 or 32. For an O-lineman he still has 3 to 4 solid years left. Not like he is a RB or WR. Lineman usually have longer careers.

And yeah Faneca will get a BIG pay-day. The FA market for O-linemen is pretty thin this season and not very deep in the draft. Once you get passed Faneca and Adams in free agency, who is there? So Faneca and Adams will be heavily recruited.

MTK 02-19-2008 03:39 PM

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[quote=sandtrapjack;423986]Ditto on Haynesworth, he will get tagged by Tenn.

Florence would be a nice pick up, but the word is once he hits the street he is anxious to reunite with his former D-coordinator, Wade Phillips. And Phillips wants another corner. If Florence is not signed by Dallas in the first week of Free Agency, it means the Cowboys are probably targeting Aqib Talib in the first round.

I am definitely onboard with the Redskins taking Malcom Kelly with thier first pick. Nice pick!


He is 31 or 32. For an O-lineman he still has 3 to 4 solid years left. Not like he is a RB or WR. Lineman usually have longer careers.

And yeah Faneca will get a BIG pay-day. The FA market for O-linemen is pretty thin this season and not very deep in the draft. Once you get passed Faneca and Adams in free agency, who is there? So Faneca and Adams will be heavily recruited.[/quote]

Faneca will get his payday but he's not going to get Dockery money.

skinsfan242 02-19-2008 03:52 PM

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[quote=sandtrapjack;423986]Ditto on Haynesworth, he will get tagged by Tenn.

Florence would be a nice pick up, but the word is once he hits the street he is anxious to reunite with his former D-coordinator, Wade Phillips. And Phillips wants another corner. If Florence is not signed by Dallas in the first week of Free Agency, it means the Cowboys are probably targeting Aqib Talib in the first round.

I am definitely onboard with the Redskins taking Malcom Kelly with thier first pick. Nice pick!


He is 31 or 32. For an O-lineman he still has 3 to 4 solid years left. Not like he is a RB or WR. Lineman usually have longer careers.

And yeah Faneca will get a BIG pay-day. The FA market for O-linemen is pretty thin this season and not very deep in the draft. Once you get passed Faneca and Adams in free agency, who is there? So Faneca and Adams will be heavily recruited.[/quote]

I can't tell if you actually think Malcom Kelly would be a good pick or not. I don't trust your logo. But everything else you said wasn't biased.

I watched Malcom Kelly in the Fiesta Bowl and he was the only player on Oklahoma who couldn't be stopped and he was injured.

I agree Faneca could be expensive but he would be worth it and he won't be in the Dockery Price Range.

While what you say about Florence could make sense, who knows if that is true.

hagams 02-19-2008 04:07 PM

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[quote=skinsfan242;423950]Albert Haynesworth (DT).[/quote]

This shouldn't even be a discussion...the guy is a beast. We surely could use him.

Dirtbag59 02-19-2008 04:08 PM

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[quote=sandtrapjack;423986]
He is 31 or 32. For an O-lineman he still has 3 to 4 solid years left. Not like he is a RB or WR. Lineman usually have longer careers.

[/quote]

Ironic isn't it. RB's get hit about 30 times per game (at most) While lineman get hit about 50 times per game every game.

redsk1 02-19-2008 04:13 PM

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Would love to have Haynesworth w/out taking into consideration $.

sandtrapjack 02-19-2008 04:15 PM

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[quote=skinsfan242;424006]I can't tell if you actually think Malcom Kelly would be a good pick or not. I don't trust your logo. But everything else you said wasn't biased.
[/quote]

LOL, yeah well 584 posts on this forum and I haven't been banned or benched yet. (Knock on wood)

Seriously, Kelly would be the perfect pick for Washington. He's like 6'4" tall and is a beast.

skinsfan242 02-19-2008 05:20 PM

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[quote=sandtrapjack;424027]LOL, yeah well 584 posts on this forum and I haven't been banned or benched yet. (Knock on wood)

Seriously, Kelly would be the perfect pick for Washington. He's like 6'4" tall and is a beast.[/quote]

Agreed.

SouperMeister 02-19-2008 06:03 PM

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[quote=sandtrapjack;424027]LOL, yeah well 584 posts on this forum and I haven't been banned or benched yet. (Knock on wood)

Seriously, Kelly would be the perfect pick for Washington. He's like 6'4" tall and is a beast.[/quote]So of the big receivers available in the first round, would the consensus be that Malcolm Kelly will be better than Limas Sweed?

Skins4Life101 02-19-2008 06:47 PM

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I was thinking about doing a post like this... Here is My version...

FA Acquisitions:
[COLOR="Blue"]A. Odom DE
Elton Brown OL[/COLOR]
Earnest Wilford WR

Rnd 1
Kentwan Balmer (UNC - DT)

Rnd 2
Chris Williams (Vandy - OL) or Sam Baker (USC - OL)

Rnd 3
Macus Griffin (Texas - S)

Rnd 4
[COLOR="Blue"]Wallace Gilberry (Bama - DE)[/COLOR]

Rnd 5
Simeon Castille (Bama - CB)

Rnd 6
Mario Urritia (Louisville - WR)

Rnd 7
Maurice Purify (FSU - QB)

RFAs...
Xavier Lee (FSU - QB), [COLOR="Blue"]Jonathan Wilhite (Auburn - CB)[/COLOR], Rob Jackson (KSU - DE), Xavier Carter (LSU - WR; if he's not drafted), Thomas Flowers (UGA - CB), [COLOR="Blue"]Kellen Davis (MSU -TE; he will most likely be taken)[/COLOR] and Omar Haugabook (Troy - QB)...

Also I would lover prices of beer $2, and I would introduce spare ribs to the club level.

[B][COLOR="Red"]Also I would shorten the hooters uniform 2 inches from lower buttocks.[/COLOR][/B]

mauiRedskinbarn 02-19-2008 07:32 PM

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Get A. Odom-DE from Titans, Bryant Johnson-WR from Cardinals, Bell-OL From Titans, and Kelly-DT from Raiders. then draft Lawrence Jackson or Calais Cambell in 1st round, Limas Sweed or Brandon Flowers in the 2nd round, then draft Colt Brennen or Jamall Charles in the 3rd round

Ruhskins 02-19-2008 08:16 PM

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WRs: If Larry Fitzgerald gets cut, then snatch him, if not we should go after Bryant Johnson, Bernard Berrian, or Andre Davis (no 1st/3rd round picks for Ocho Cinco).

D-Line: UFAs like Tommy Kelly from Oakland at DT or Corey Williams from Green Bay at DT

Draft: Calais Campbell seems to have good raw talent, and he could be groomed for the D-Line. Maybe pick up some depth at CB or LB and maybe WR in later rounds.

sandtrapjack 02-19-2008 09:38 PM

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[quote=SouperMeister;424049]So of the big receivers available in the first round, would the consensus be that Malcolm Kelly will be better than Limas Sweed?[/quote]

Take it from a Horns fan. Sweed is very good. But he missed the last 7 games of the last season because he elected to have season ending surgery to be all healed up for the draft.

Then he decided to play at the Senior Bowl and re-aggravated that wrist injury.

So the question mark is whether or not he can be ready for camp.

That injury could make Sweed slip in the draft. And if his injury prevents him from performing at the combine this week, he could slip into a "late day one" round. And if a team had some patience, he could be a steal.

I still think Malcom Kelly is your guy.

DC52 02-19-2008 09:39 PM

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[SIZE="5"]The Perfect Offseason[/SIZE]

[B]Free Agents[/B]

[U]Lance Briggs[/U]-Briggs is an upgrade from McIntosh(who won't be ready for the season due to injury). We'll need an insurance policy since Godfry is past his prime, Campbell is not starting caliber and Blades is an inside linebacker.
[U]Earnest Wilford[/U]-Everyone is talking about needing a tall "possession" WR for our new west coast offense. Wilford has [I]proven[/I] in Jacksonville he is that type of receiver which is better than wasting a draft pick by taking a chance on a rookie. Detroit has shown us drafting receivers is a big risk.
[U]Bryant Johnson[/U]-Similar to Wilford, just not as good. Should be considered for the same reasons as Wilford especially if the skins are unable to sign Wilford.
[U]John Engelberger[/U]-The skins should still draft a DE but Engelberger is a hometown hero and can provide experience, leadership, and depth to our DL. He's good at both pass rushing and run stopping and would be good in a DE rotation.
[U]Kris Jenkins[/U]- Not officially a FA yet but it seems inevidable. The skins quietly made a run for him last year but the panthers decided they still wanted him. He is still really good a providing QB pressure of the middle but is nearing the end.
[U]Chad Johnson[/U]- Sure he could be help us out but at what risk? This whole situation reminds me of Terrell Owens and the way he went to Dallas. He is definately good but you all know the cost and ego he will bring. This is a "Buyer Beware" situation.

[B]Draft[/B]

[U]1st Round (21st Overall)[/U]-
Calais Campbell DE- He should develop into more of a monster at 6'8" 280lbs. Good a both pass rushing, run stopping and should take a lot of pressure of Andre Carter. His stock has fallen since last year and end of the season but that is because Miami had a poor season and he was the only respectable linemen there(so he was double/triple teamed constantly). It also seems fitting to draft a player from the University of Miami, FL after the death of Sean Taylor.
[U]2nd Round[/U]-
Dre Moore DT- A hometown hero who works hard and has great speed, size and experience with no injury or character concerns.
[U]3rd Round[/U]-
Andrew Crummy OG- Has good size and technique as well as experience. Most importantly he played along side of Stephon Heyer at Maryland so if we can get those two back together the chemistry is already built and we will have our replacements for Randy Thomas and Jon Jansen.

These are just my opinions. Would like to see what everyone thinks about them. And don't think just because I am labeled as a camp scrub by the website I don't know what I'm talking about. I've had experice playing, coaching and managing.

SmootSmack 02-19-2008 09:51 PM

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[QUOTE=DC52;424105][SIZE="5"]The Perfect Offseason[/SIZE]

[B]Free Agents[/B]

[U]Lance Briggs[/U]-Briggs is an upgrade from McIntosh(who won't be ready for the season due to injury). We'll need an insurance policy since Godfry is past his prime, Campbell is not starting caliber and Blades is an inside linebacker.
[U]Earnest Wilford[/U]-Everyone is talking about needing a tall "possession" WR for our new west coast offense. Wilford has [I]proven[/I] in Jacksonville he is that type of receiver which is better than wasting a draft pick by taking a chance on a rookie. Detroit has shown us drafting receivers is a big risk.
[U]Bryant Johnson[/U]-Similar to Wilford, just not as good. Should be considered for the same reasons as Wilford especially if the skins are unable to sign Wilford.
[U]John Engelberger[/U]-The skins should still draft a DE but Engelberger is a hometown hero and can provide experience, leadership, and depth to our DL. He's good at both pass rushing and run stopping and would be good in a DE rotation.
[U]Kris Jenkins[/U]- Not officially a FA yet but it seems inevidable. The skins quietly made a run for him last year but the panthers decided they still wanted him. He is still really good a providing QB pressure of the middle but is nearing the end.
[U]Chad Johnson[/U]- Sure he could be help us out but at what risk? This whole situation reminds me of Terrell Owens and the way he went to Dallas. He is definately good but you all know the cost and ego he will bring. This is a "Buyer Beware" situation.

[B]Draft[/B]

[U]1st Round (21st Overall)[/U]-
Calais Campbell DE- He should develop into more of a monster at 6'8" 280lbs. Good a both pass rushing, run stopping and should take a lot of pressure of Andre Carter. His stock has fallen since last year and end of the season but that is because Miami had a poor season and he was the only respectable linemen there(so he was double/triple teamed constantly). It also seems fitting to draft a player from the University of Miami, FL after the death of Sean Taylor.
[U]2nd Round[/U]-
Dre Moore DT- A hometown hero who works hard and has great speed, size and experience with no injury or character concerns.
[U]3rd Round[/U]-
Andrew Crummy OG- Has good size and technique as well as experience. Most importantly he played along side of Stephon Heyer at Maryland so if we can get those two back together the chemistry is already built and we will have our replacements for Randy Thomas and Jon Jansen.

These are just my opinions. Would like to see what everyone thinks about them. And don't think just because I am labeled as a camp scrub by the website I don't know what I'm talking about. I've had experice playing, coaching and managing.[/QUOTE]

1. Chad Johnson isn't a free agent
2. What are you going to do with all our current receivers if you're adding 3 new ones?
3. You're adding 3 new DEs, so who goes?

DC52 02-19-2008 10:05 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;424114]1. Chad Johnson isn't a free agent
2. What are you going to do with all our current receivers if you're adding 3 new ones?
3. You're adding 3 new DEs, so who goes?[/QUOTE]

1. I realize that Chad Johnson isn't a free agent. I just thought he was worth addressing in our offseason.
2. I would cut Lloyd, Espy, Mix, maybe Thrash (depending on the receiver we add), and ask McKardell to retire as a skin
3. I'm very defensive minded person and believe you can never have enough DE's so no one goes. The less tired they are the better they can at full speed and rush the QB. I also believe with more defensive linemen (end's and tackle's) you can make more defensive line packages and call a more diverse range of stunts and ways to pressure the QB orstop the run. I also want to add these I used to play DE and these were my defense philosophies even before the Giants won the Super Bowl.

T.O.Killa 02-19-2008 10:11 PM

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[quote=DC52;424119]1. I realize that Chad Johnson isn't a free agent. I just thought he was worth addressing in our offseason.
2. I would cut Lloyd, Espy, Mix, maybe Thrash (depending on the receiver we add), and ask McKardell to retire as a skin
3. I'm very defensive minded person and believe you can never have enough DE's so no one goes. The less tired they are the better they can at full speed and rush the QB. I also believe with more defensive linemen (end's and tackle's) you can make more defensive line packages and call a more diverse range of stunts and ways to pressure the QB orstop the run. I also want to add these I used to play DE and these were my defense philosophies even before the Giants won the Super Bowl.[/quote]
I am not sure why your cutting Espy and Mix, the season has not even started. Joe Gibbs said that before Espy got hurt they expected big thing out of him. At least give them a chance.

SmootSmack 02-19-2008 10:11 PM

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So you would add Wilford, Bryant Johnson, and Chad Johnson to Moss and El? Who are your starters?

DC52 02-19-2008 10:16 PM

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[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;424125]I am not sure why your cutting Espy and Mix, the season has not even started. Joe Gibbs said that before Espy got hurt they expected big thing out of him. At least give them a chance.[/QUOTE]

I guess your right. I do trust Gibbs so I'd give them a chance during OTA's and training camp but looking at their competition they're might have a hard time making a spot. I would just assume they would have been beaten out but I could be wrong.

DC52 02-19-2008 10:23 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;424126]So you would add Wilford, Bryant Johnson, and Chad Johnson to Moss and El? Who are your starters?[/QUOTE]

CJ and Wilford at would start at wide out. Santana Moss would be free and could move to the slot where he could excel (like Wes Welker, remember the trouble he caused us). Randle El and Bryant Johnson would provide dependable depth and should be rotated in frequently. With a receiving corp like this as well as good O-line, Cooley at TE, Portis in the backfield and Campbells arm strength to go deep, we should have an offense to rival the '08 Patriots.

Beemnseven 02-19-2008 10:26 PM

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag359;424022]Ironic isn't it. RB's get hit about 30 times per game (at most) While lineman get hit about 50 times per game every game.[/QUOTE]

You sure that's right? RBs may not get hit as much by virtue of not playing every down like O-linemen, but they get hit usually by multiple players.

sandtrapjack 02-19-2008 10:33 PM

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[quote=DC52;424129]CJ and Wilford at would start at wide out. Santana Moss would be free and could move to the slot where he could excel (like Wes Welker, remember the trouble he caused us). Randle El and Bryant Johnson would provide dependable depth and should be rotated in frequently. With a receiving corp like this as well as good O-line, Cooley at TE, Portis in the backfield and Campbells arm strength to go deep, we should have an offense to rival the '08 Patriots.[/quote]

Randle El depth? Tell me again how much he is getting paid? To sit on the bench and be DEPTH!?!?!?!?!?!

Trust me I don't know the number but I can promise you it is A LOT more than "depth" should be getting paid.

Beemnseven 02-19-2008 10:38 PM

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;424132]Randle El depth? Tell me again how much he is getting paid? To sit on the bench and be DEPTH!?!?!?!?!?!

Trust me I don't know the number but I can promise you it is A LOT more than "depth" should be getting paid.[/QUOTE]

Well, he's producing at about the rate of a "depth" guy. 51 receptions for 728 yards and 1 touchdown?

Honestly, the Redskins could cut him and there wouldn't be that much of a difference on the field.

DC52 02-19-2008 10:38 PM

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;424132]Randle El depth? Tell me again how much he is getting paid? To sit on the bench and be DEPTH!?!?!?!?!?!

Trust me I don't know the number but I can promise you it is A LOT more than "depth" should be getting paid.[/QUOTE]

You're right. Hopefully in that situation he would be willing to take a paycut. Last time I checked he had $30 million over a 6 year period. Thats a lot for a starter with his kind of production (receiver not over 1000 yards or at least 10 TDs).

Beemnseven 02-19-2008 10:42 PM

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[QUOTE=DC52;424129]CJ and Wilford at would start at wide out. Santana Moss would be free and could move to the slot where he could excel (like Wes Welker, remember the trouble he caused us). Randle El and Bryant Johnson would provide dependable depth and should be rotated in frequently. With a receiving corp like this as well as good O-line, Cooley at TE, Portis in the backfield and Campbells arm strength to go deep, we should have an offense to rival the '08 Patriots.[/QUOTE]

Since the Santana Moss/Randle El/Brandon Lloyd experiment has pretty much been a dismal failure, I have no problems with your new wideout lineup.

Just not CJ -- he's a really expensive headache. I do like the idea of Wilford and Bryant Johnson though. Randle El can be the #4 receiver and catch punts or get released as far as I'm concerned.

That Guy 02-19-2008 10:47 PM

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while CJ's availability is up for debate, wilford and johnson would be a total waste, since el and moss are better than either one. if you got briggs, then you bench mcintosh for basically his entire contract here, since you'll have 3 huge LB contracts.

and other's have mentioned malcolm kelly, but he'll never make it to #21.

DC52 02-19-2008 10:49 PM

Re: Dream (but Realistic) Offseason
 
[QUOTE=Beemnseven;424139]Since the Santana Moss/Randle El/Brandon Lloyd experiment has pretty much been a dismal failure, I have no problems with your new wideout lineup.

Just not CJ -- he's a really expensive headache. I do like the idea of Wilford and Bryant Johnson though. Randle El can be the #4 receiver and catch punts or get released as far as I'm concerned.[/QUOTE]

I don't know CJ could bring a headache, but he could also bring size, speed, entertainment (I find his TD celebrations entertaining), double teams and headaches for opposing defenses. I know he is a risk but I think the benefits outweigh the risks. T.O. was like CJ and could have brought the Cowgirls headaches but he instead brought them success. CJ could do the same for us. I wouldn't want Randle El to be released: at $30 million that would cause a huge cap penalty.

SmootSmack 02-19-2008 10:51 PM

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What do we like about Wilford? That he's tall?

DC52 02-19-2008 10:56 PM

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[QUOTE=That Guy;424141]while CJ's availability is up for debate, wilford and johnson would be a total waste, since el and moss are better than either one. if you got briggs, then you bench mcintosh for basically his entire contract here, since you'll have 3 huge LB contracts.

and other's have mentioned malcolm kelly, but he'll never make it to #21.[/QUOTE]

Briggs arrival wouldn't mean Rocky's being benched. McIntosh at best would be back to play a few games next year. Let him work his way back up and sign Briggs to a one year deal so he will be leaving at the time Rocky's ready to come back at full starting strength. Wilford and Johnson wouldn't be a waste. Their size and soft hands could be very useful in the redzones or when we need a clutch catch. I'm not say Moss and Randle El are better or worse but I do remember their size being an issue at one time and they each dropped some catchable balls when we really needed a big play this past season. A little depth and more options never hurt a WR corp.

skinsfan69 02-19-2008 10:56 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;424145]What do we like about Wilford? That he's tall?[/quote]

Wilford is OK. I remember him from VA Tech. Big tall and slow like all of Jacksonville's Wr's. I'd leave him alone.

DC52 02-19-2008 10:58 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;424145]What do we like about Wilford? That he's tall?[/QUOTE]

that's probably the main reason but he does have good hands, starting experience and doesn't have any injury or character issues. it's rare you get so many good traits from a WR without a huge downside, which may be his speed( but you don't have to put him on deep routes where speed is necessary, leave that to Moss).

skinsfan69 02-19-2008 10:58 PM

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[quote=DC52;424148]Briggs arrival wouldn't mean Rocky's being benched. McIntosh at best would be back to play a few games next year. Let him work his way back up and sign Briggs to a one year deal so he will be leaving at the time Rocky's ready to come back at full starting strength. Wilford and Johnson wouldn't be a waste. Their size and soft hands could be very useful in the redzones or when we need a clutch catch. I'm not say Moss and Randle El are better or worse but I do remember their size being an issue at one time and they each dropped some catchable balls when we really needed a big play this past season. A little depth and more options never hurt a WR corp.[/quote]

Rocky should be ready by training camp. And Briggs isn't coming here for a one year deal. He did that last year with Chicago.

DC52 02-19-2008 11:02 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;424153]Rocky should be ready by training camp. And Briggs isn't coming here for a one year deal. He did that last year with Chicago.[/QUOTE]

I think training camp is very optimistic for Rocky considering the injury he had. If you offer him the right price Briggs would come he for a year but it would be a ton of $$$.


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