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Schneed10 12-28-2007 01:49 PM

Sizing up the NFC
 
I hate to look past Dallas at this point, because if we don't win, we're probably not in, and then all this discussion will be for naught. But if we do get in, check out our chances in this NFC field:

Tampa Bay is 5-0 against the NFC South this year. They're 4-6 against everybody else. Kind of obvious that the biggest reason they're headed to the playoffs is their weak division. Plus, we totally had them on their field this year.

Seattle is 5-1 against the NFC West this year, but only 5-4 against everyone else. Again, only a solid team playing in a weak division.

The New York Giants are not the same team now that went on the six-game winning streak to jump out to a 6-2 start. We showed that by pounding them 22-10 in their house. Coughlin's career is starting to look like a poor-man's Marty Schottenheimer career. Strong regular season, wilts down the stretch and in the playoffs.

The Green Bay Packers are definitely a formidable team, and we'd have to play them in Lambeau where they hold a huge homefield advantage. But we almost beat them this season, in Green Bay. And we're built to be a cold-weather team. We can run, and we can stop the run now.

The Dallas Cowboys are the most complete team in the NFC, it seems to me. If Owens is healthy, our secondary would have its hands full. Last time we played them, Owens torched us for multiple big plays. Except now GW will have a chance to use his adjusted scheme, with Landry playing free safety. Against Dallas the first go-round, GW had not yet adjusted his secondary scheme and TO went off. I doubt he lets Owens do that again. And with these Dallas/Washington games, the teams both get up for the fight. Though a healthy Cowboys squad probably has us outmatched, we would give them a game, and I'd take our coaching staff in a battle of wits over the Dallas staff.

So we're not in the playoffs yet, but can't you see a scenario here in which we could be playing in the Super Bowl, with the way we're playing right now? One tough stat for us is the fact that since the NFL went to a 16-game schedule in 1978, only one team has won the Super Bowl with a 10-6 record during the regular season (1988 49ers, and they had someone named Montana). And we're not even 10-6, we're a 9-7 team if we beat Dallas on Sunday. Only one team has even made the Super Bowl with a 9-7 record (1979 LA Rams). They lost to the Steelers. So based on history, the odds of making it at 9-7 are long indeed.

But it has happened. Let's get in, and then dare to dream!

SFREDSKIN 12-28-2007 01:55 PM

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If we don't lose anymore key players to injury and make the playoffs we can play with any of them and beat them. Our intangible is our coaching staff. We had GB and Dallas on the ropes, we beat ourself s in those games.

Bill B 12-28-2007 01:59 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;398230]I hate to look past Dallas at this point, because if we don't win, we're probably not in, and then all this discussion will be for naught. But if we do get in, check out our chances in this NFC field:

Tampa Bay is 5-0 against the NFC South this year. They're 4-6 against everybody else. Kind of obvious that the biggest reason they're headed to the playoffs is their weak division. Plus, we totally had them on their field this year.

Seattle is 5-1 against the NFC West this year, but only 5-4 against everyone else. Again, only a solid team playing in a weak division.

The New York Giants are not the same team now that went on the six-game winning streak to jump out to a 6-2 start. We showed that by pounding them 22-10 in their house. Coughlin's career is starting to look like a poor-man's Marty Schottenheimer career. Strong regular season, wilts down the stretch and in the playoffs.

The Green Bay Packers are definitely a formidable team, and we'd have to play them in Lambeau where they hold a huge homefield advantage. But we almost beat them this season, in Green Bay. And we're built to be a cold-weather team. We can run, and we can stop the run now.

The Dallas Cowboys are the most complete team in the NFC, it seems to me. If Owens is healthy, our secondary would have its hands full. Last time we played them, Owens torched us for multiple big plays. Except now GW will have a chance to use his adjusted scheme, with Landry playing free safety. Against Dallas the first go-round, GW had not yet adjusted his secondary scheme and TO went off. I doubt he lets Owens do that again. And with these Dallas/Washington games, the teams both get up for the fight. Though a healthy Cowboys squad probably has us outmatched, we would give them a game, and I'd take our coaching staff in a battle of wits over the Dallas staff.

So we're not in the playoffs yet, but can't you see a scenario here in which we could be playing in the Super Bowl, with the way we're playing right now? One tough stat for us is the fact that since the NFL went to a 16-game schedule in 1978, only one team has won the Super Bowl with a 10-6 record during the regular season (1988 49ers, and they had someone named Montana). And we're not even 10-6, we're a 9-7 team if we beat Dallas on Sunday. Only one team has even made the Super Bowl with a 9-7 record (1979 LA Rams). They lost to the Steelers. So based on history, the odds of making it at 9-7 are long indeed.

But it has happened. Let's get in, and then dare to dream![/quote]

That would be awesome - I would say as long as injuries don't continue to mount - especially if Collins went down we have a shot in every game. I think you hit the point that in the NFC it is wide open and as long as you don't have to go through New England or Indianapolis you have a shot to get to the big game.

12thMan 12-28-2007 01:59 PM

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Schneed, correct me if I'm wrong but I think the Oakland Raiders were 9-7 when they Philly in the Super Bowl. Too lazy to look it up right now.

Anyway, I've pondered the same thing about the possible scenerios that could land us in the Super Bowl or at the very least playing for the NFC championship.

As far as Green Bay goes, I think they actually got a little better since we last played them. Their running game has improved some.

BDBohnzie 12-28-2007 02:00 PM

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My only worry about Seattle is playing them in Seattle. They have been excellent at home during the Holmgren Administration. Their defense is 5th in points allowed (16.5) and are ranked 14th overall. However, they've only played 2 playoff bound teams (W v. Tampa, L at Pittsburgh), and play in an incredibly weak NFC West. They are vulnerable.

BDBohnzie 12-28-2007 02:01 PM

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[QUOTE=12thMan;398235]...correct me if I'm wrong but I think the Oakland Raiders were 9-7 when they Philly in the Super Bowl. Too lazy to look it up right now.[/QUOTE]
Oakland was 11-5 that season (1980)

Schneed10 12-28-2007 02:03 PM

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[quote=12thMan;398235]Schneed, correct me if I'm wrong but I think the Oakland Raiders were 9-7 when they Philly in the Super Bowl. Too lazy to look it up right now.

Anyway, I've pondered the same thing about the possible scenerios that could land us in the Super Bowl or at the very least playing for the NFC championship.

As far as Green Bay goes, I think they actually got a little better since we last played them. Their running game has improved some.[/quote]

No, the Raiders were 11-5 that year when they beat the Eagles. I was looking at [URL="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/"]this page on Pro Football Reference[/URL], real handy summary of all the Super Bowl teams.

Yeah Green Bay is a better running team now than they were back then. But if we can shut down Minnesota, I think we can shut down GB. Of course Favre/Driver/Jennings are much better through the air than Minnesota. GB would be a challenge, but I think we can run on them with more success than we did earlier this year. We'd probably go 3 yards and a cloud for most of the game, and then wear them down in the end.

12thMan 12-28-2007 02:07 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;398238]No, the Raiders were 11-5 that year when they beat the Eagles. I was looking at [URL="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/"]this page on Pro Football Reference[/URL], real handy summary of all the Super Bowl teams.

Yeah Green Bay is a better running team now than they were back then. But if we can shut down Minnesota, I think we can shut down GB. Of course Favre/Driver/Jennings are much better through the air than Minnesota. GB would be a challenge, but I think we can run on them with more success than we did earlier this year. We'd probably go 3 yards and a cloud for most of the game, and then wear them down in the end.[/quote]

Good point, if we shut down Minni then we should be able to handle the Pack. I guess it's worth pointing out that our defenes has tightened up a little since then too.

For some reason, I thought Oakland was a wild card team one year they went to the Super Bowl - I'm losing it.

Hog1 12-28-2007 02:14 PM

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It is not necessarily measureable, but surly exists.
These Skins are playing with Fire, Emotion, like a "team" with the KILLER instinct they seemed to lack early on

12thMan 12-28-2007 02:16 PM

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[quote=Hog1;398241]It is not necessarily measureable, but surly exists.
These Skins are playing with Fire, Emotion, like a "team" with the KILLER instinct they seemed to lack early on[/quote]

I read in the Post that Portis and Moss are much more vocal in the locker room since Sean's passing. Appearantly everyone has noticed it.

Hog1 12-28-2007 02:26 PM

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I don't know what did it, but it appears to have happened about the time Sean was killed. Maybe it was ST's family addressing the team? Maybe, it was a season dedication to ST himself?
Maybe it's Todd Collins?
If you read Wilbon's latest work (posted on the WP) about Gibb's, maybe it is Joe2's ability to handle diversity, and solidify the squad?
Anyone can see the difference in them. They are re-made in the image of a Championship contender.
Is it not excellent??????
HTTR

Monksdown 12-28-2007 02:30 PM

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[quote=12thMan;398239]Good point, if we shut down Minni then we should be able to handle the Pack. I guess it's worth pointing out that our defenes has tightened up a little since then too.

For some reason, I thought Oakland was a wild card team one year they went to the Super Bowl - I'm losing it.[/quote]

Minnesota was a completely different kind of challenge than Green Bay would be. Did you notice the 8 men in the box on every play? Did you notice the 4-6 Buddy Ryan defense that we NEVER use? Read the article on London Fletcher's response to the Minnesota gameplan if you didnt catch all of that. My point being, Gregg Williams would implement a completely different game plan against Brett Favre.

Last i checked, we played Minnesota in a dome. Green Bay will be much, much colder. And Green Bay has proven that they can run the ball now, thus balancing out their earlier season lopsidedness.

There's just no correlation between a Brett Favre run offense, and a Tavaris Jackson run offense. 0.

Minnesota is not comparable to Green Bay in any way other than longitude and division.

SFREDSKIN 12-28-2007 02:30 PM

Re: Sizing up the NFC
 
[QUOTE=Hog1;398248]I don't know what did it, but it appears to have happened about the time Sean was killed. Maybe it was ST's family addressing the team? Maybe, it was a season dedication to ST himself?
Maybe it's Todd Collins?
If you read Wilbon's latest work (posted on the WP) about Gibb's, maybe it is Joe2's ability to handle diversity, and solidify the squad?
Anyone can see the difference in them. They are re-made in the image of a Championship contender.
Is it not excellent??????
HTTR[/QUOTE]

It's called FAMILY!! They've realized that they are a FAMILY not a TEAM. From top to bottom that's what they are.

sandtrapjack 12-28-2007 02:30 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;398230]I hate to look past Dallas at this point, because if we don't win, we're probably not in, and then all this discussion will be for naught. But if we do get in, check out our chances in this NFC field:

Tampa Bay is 5-0 against the NFC South this year. They're 4-6 against everybody else. Kind of obvious that the biggest reason they're headed to the playoffs is their weak division. Plus, we totally had them on their field this year.

Seattle is 5-1 against the NFC West this year, but only 5-4 against everyone else. Again, only a solid team playing in a weak division.

The New York Giants are not the same team now that went on the six-game winning streak to jump out to a 6-2 start. We showed that by pounding them 22-10 in their house. Coughlin's career is starting to look like a poor-man's Marty Schottenheimer career. Strong regular season, wilts down the stretch and in the playoffs.

The Green Bay Packers are definitely a formidable team, and we'd have to play them in Lambeau where they hold a huge homefield advantage. But we almost beat them this season, in Green Bay. And we're built to be a cold-weather team. We can run, and we can stop the run now.

The Dallas Cowboys are the most complete team in the NFC, it seems to me. If Owens is healthy, our secondary would have its hands full. Last time we played them, Owens torched us for multiple big plays. Except now GW will have a chance to use his adjusted scheme, with Landry playing free safety. Against Dallas the first go-round, GW had not yet adjusted his secondary scheme and TO went off. I doubt he lets Owens do that again. And with these Dallas/Washington games, the teams both get up for the fight. Though a healthy Cowboys squad probably has us outmatched, we would give them a game, and I'd take our coaching staff in a battle of wits over the Dallas staff.

So we're not in the playoffs yet, but can't you see a scenario here in which we could be playing in the Super Bowl, with the way we're playing right now? One tough stat for us is the fact that since the NFL went to a 16-game schedule in 1978, only one team has won the Super Bowl with a 10-6 record during the regular season (1988 49ers, and they had someone named Montana). And we're not even 10-6, we're a 9-7 team if we beat Dallas on Sunday. Only one team has even made the Super Bowl with a 9-7 record (1979 LA Rams). They lost to the Steelers. So based on history, the odds of making it at 9-7 are long indeed.

But it has happened. Let's get in, and then dare to dream![/quote]

The most important thing is to get into "the tournament". Once the playoffs start, EVERYONE is 0-0.

Good points about 10-6 teams getting to the Super Bowl.
But it was just two years ago (ok call it 3 years by now) that a #6 seed in the AFC went on the road throughout the playoffs and eventually won the Super Bowl.....Pittsburgh Steelers.

And if the Redskins win this Sunday, they will coincidentally be the #6 seed as well.

chrisl4064 12-28-2007 02:32 PM

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I just keep going back to the origional posters first sentence. Lets just beat the cowboys!

MTK 12-28-2007 02:43 PM

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Assuming we beat Dallas of course... I honestly think the Skins can play with anyone in the NFC right now.

scafuri27 12-28-2007 03:02 PM

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Seattle is a bad draw for us.. they are 7-1 at home..but the best team they beat at home would be Tampa in the opener so thats a bit skewed


Id feel more comfortable going to Tampa again than seattle...

In 05 Portis throws a td pass in week 16 to Cooley.. in 07 Wk 16 he Throws another Td pass..

..and if Tampa won out and got the 3 seed we would have been matched up with them and would have more than likely gone to Seattle again (twighlight zone theme music plays)

Cant argue with those 05' vibe threads if we end up making it in...

GTripp0012 12-28-2007 03:21 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;398230]I hate to look past Dallas at this point, because if we don't win, we're probably not in, and then all this discussion will be for naught. But if we do get in, check out our chances in this NFC field:

Tampa Bay is 5-0 against the NFC South this year. They're 4-6 against everybody else. Kind of obvious that the biggest reason they're headed to the playoffs is their weak division. Plus, we totally had them on their field this year.

Seattle is 5-1 against the NFC West this year, but only 5-4 against everyone else. Again, only a solid team playing in a weak division.

The New York Giants are not the same team now that went on the six-game winning streak to jump out to a 6-2 start. We showed that by pounding them 22-10 in their house. Coughlin's career is starting to look like a poor-man's Marty Schottenheimer career. Strong regular season, wilts down the stretch and in the playoffs.

The Green Bay Packers are definitely a formidable team, and we'd have to play them in Lambeau where they hold a huge homefield advantage. But we almost beat them this season, in Green Bay. And we're built to be a cold-weather team. We can run, and we can stop the run now.

The Dallas Cowboys are the most complete team in the NFC, it seems to me. If Owens is healthy, our secondary would have its hands full. Last time we played them, Owens torched us for multiple big plays. Except now GW will have a chance to use his adjusted scheme, with Landry playing free safety. Against Dallas the first go-round, GW had not yet adjusted his secondary scheme and TO went off. I doubt he lets Owens do that again. And with these Dallas/Washington games, the teams both get up for the fight. Though a healthy Cowboys squad probably has us outmatched, we would give them a game, and I'd take our coaching staff in a battle of wits over the Dallas staff.

So we're not in the playoffs yet, but can't you see a scenario here in which we could be playing in the Super Bowl, with the way we're playing right now? One tough stat for us is the fact that since the NFL went to a 16-game schedule in 1978, only one team has won the Super Bowl with a 10-6 record during the regular season (1988 49ers, and they had someone named Montana). And we're not even 10-6, we're a 9-7 team if we beat Dallas on Sunday. Only one team has even made the Super Bowl with a 9-7 record (1979 LA Rams). They lost to the Steelers. So based on history, the odds of making it at 9-7 are long indeed.

But it has happened. Let's get in, and then dare to dream![/quote]It's not like Tampa got six wins in their own division by 3 points or less or something. They blew their division out of the water, winning each game by at least 20 points. I wouldn't say we "had" them either. Turnovers aside, we played them pretty darn close, but it's not like we blew them out...or even won the game.

Seattle is totally unproven (FO has them ranked as the team who played the weakest schedule), but I think teams like Seattle and Tampa could totally flip the NFC on its side.

Lets say that we get in by beating Dallas, and then we go on and beat Seattle. That means Tampa goes to Green Bay and we go to Dallas. What if Garcia goes up there, picks his spots smartly on Al Harris, getting a few deep plays over the top to Galloway and Tampa takes care of their business. Then if we somehow manage to beat the Cowboys in the divisional round (I think we are going to need Campbell to have a chance), that we could be going to Tampa to play the NFC Championship.

I think that Tampa and Dallas are the two best NFC teams. However, Green Bay has the easiest road provided that we don't win our first round game. Right now, Green Bay is my pick as long as their road goes through Seattle first.

Schneed10 12-28-2007 03:38 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;398302]It's not like Tampa got six wins in their own division by 3 points or less or something. They blew their division out of the water, winning each game by at least 20 points. I wouldn't say we "had" them either. Turnovers aside, we played them pretty darn close, but it's not like we blew them out...or even won the game.

Seattle is totally unproven (FO has them ranked as the team who played the weakest schedule), but I think teams like Seattle and Tampa could totally flip the NFC on its side.

Lets say that we get in by beating Dallas, and then we go on and beat Seattle. That means Tampa goes to Green Bay and we go to Dallas. What if Garcia goes up there, picks his spots smartly on Al Harris, getting a few deep plays over the top to Galloway and Tampa takes care of their business. Then if we somehow manage to beat the Cowboys in the divisional round (I think we are going to need Campbell to have a chance), that we could be going to Tampa to play the NFC Championship.

I think that Tampa and Dallas are the two best NFC teams. However, Green Bay has the easiest road provided that we don't win our first round game. Right now, Green Bay is my pick as long as their road goes through Seattle first.[/quote]

That's a pretty glowing review of TB, in my opinion. In their last three games, they lost to the mediocre Texans 28-14, blew out the hapless Falcons - who had totally given up with Petrino quitting - 37-3, and lost to the lowly 49ers 21-19 just last week. They're not peaking right now.

They have played pretty well at home this season, 6-1 at home, 3-5 on the road. And we'd have to go to Tampa if we faced them in the playoffs.

But I don't like the way they're playing heading into the playoff tournament. Their opponents' winning percentage this year has been 0.446, so they're hardly battle-tested. In fact, their 9 wins have come against teams whose combined winning percentage is an absolutely dismal 0.392 (that translates into a 6-10 record). They've only beaten two teams who are now above .500 (us and the Titans). I don't think very much of them.

mheisig 12-28-2007 03:59 PM

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Redskins vs. Cowboys in the NFC Championship game. How awesome would that be?

Schneed10 12-28-2007 04:01 PM

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[quote=mheisig;398352]Redskins vs. Cowboys in the NFC Championship game. How awesome would that be?[/quote]

:dallas:

Giantone 12-28-2007 07:42 PM

Re: Sizing up the NFC
 
[quote=Schneed10;398230]I hate to look past Dallas at this point, because if we don't win, we're probably not in, and then all this discussion will be for naught. But if we do get in, check out our chances in this NFC field:

Tampa Bay is 5-0 against the NFC South this year. They're 4-6 against everybody else. Kind of obvious that the biggest reason they're headed to the playoffs is their weak division. Plus, we totally had them on their field this year.

Seattle is 5-1 against the NFC West this year, but only 5-4 against everyone else. Again, only a solid team playing in a weak division.

The New York Giants are not the same team now that went on the six-game winning streak to jump out to a 6-2 start. We showed that by pounding them 22-10 in their house. Coughlin's career is starting to look like a poor-man's Marty Schottenheimer career. Strong regular season, wilts down the stretch and in the playoffs.

The Green Bay Packers are definitely a formidable team, and we'd have to play them in Lambeau where they hold a huge homefield advantage. But we almost beat them this season, in Green Bay. And we're built to be a cold-weather team. We can run, and we can stop the run now.

The Dallas Cowboys are the most complete team in the NFC, it seems to me. If Owens is healthy, our secondary would have its hands full. Last time we played them, Owens torched us for multiple big plays. Except now GW will have a chance to use his adjusted scheme, with Landry playing free safety. Against Dallas the first go-round, GW had not yet adjusted his secondary scheme and TO went off. I doubt he lets Owens do that again. And with these Dallas/Washington games, the teams both get up for the fight. Though a healthy Cowboys squad probably has us outmatched, we would give them a game, and I'd take our coaching staff in a battle of wits over the Dallas staff.

So we're not in the playoffs yet, but can't you see a scenario here in which we could be playing in the Super Bowl, with the way we're playing right now? One tough stat for us is the fact that since the NFL went to a 16-game schedule in 1978, only one team has won the Super Bowl with a 10-6 record during the regular season (1988 49ers, and they had someone named Montana). And we're not even 10-6, we're a 9-7 team if we beat Dallas on Sunday. Only one team has even made the Super Bowl with a 9-7 record (1979 LA Rams). They lost to the Steelers. So based on history, the odds of making it at 9-7 are long indeed.

But it has happened. Let's get in, and then dare to dream![/quote]


Does that stuff come in 6 packs?:doh:

Schneed10 12-28-2007 08:26 PM

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[quote=Giantone;398437]Does that stuff come in 6 packs?:doh:[/quote]

Who's got a better shot, the Giants or the Skins?

I rest my case.

724Skinsfan 12-28-2007 09:11 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;398320]That's a pretty glowing review of TB, in my opinion. In their last three games, they lost to the mediocre Texans 28-14, blew out the hapless Falcons - who had totally given up with Petrino quitting - 37-3, and lost to the lowly 49ers 21-19 just last week. They're not peaking right now.

They have played pretty well at home this season, 6-1 at home, 3-5 on the road. And we'd have to go to Tampa if we faced them in the playoffs.

But I don't like the way they're playing heading into the playoff tournament. Their opponents' winning percentage this year has been 0.446, so they're hardly battle-tested. In fact, their 9 wins have come against teams whose combined winning percentage is an absolutely dismal 0.392 (that translates into a 6-10 record). They've only beaten two teams who are now above .500 (us and the Titans). I don't think very much of them.[/quote]

I think they're the type of team that tend to play to the level of their opponents. Not a dominant club but one that has the leadership at important positions to keep games close. They have played fairly consistent throughout the season with sjust a few hiccups.

You're right, they seem to have lost some steam heading into the final week. The Giants could beat them but I think the Bucs will take them. All the better, because I'd like to see us playing against them again down in Florida.

GTripp0012 12-29-2007 02:57 AM

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[quote=mheisig;398352]Redskins vs. Cowboys in the NFC Championship game. How awesome would that be?[/quote]It's also not possible.

If we beat Seattle in a potential first round game, we then play the Cowboys.

TenandSix:Unacceptable 12-29-2007 04:51 AM

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We don't really deserve to be thinking about this stuff until we're in. Get one more game and then I'm all over this type of speculation. Until then, I'll just sing "Hail to the Redskins" drunk in the streets of Adams Morgan at 3am with my friends.

killromo 12-29-2007 09:30 AM

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[QUOTE=Monksdown;398250] Read the article on London Fletcher's response to the Minnesota gameplan if you didnt catch all of that. [/QUOTE]

Do you have link for this?

skinsfan69 12-29-2007 12:13 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;398230]I hate to look past Dallas at this point, because if we don't win, we're probably not in, and then all this discussion will be for naught. But if we do get in, check out our chances in this NFC field:

Tampa Bay is 5-0 against the NFC South this year. They're 4-6 against everybody else. Kind of obvious that the biggest reason they're headed to the playoffs is their weak division. Plus, we totally had them on their field this year.

Seattle is 5-1 against the NFC West this year, but only 5-4 against everyone else. Again, only a solid team playing in a weak division.

The New York Giants are not the same team now that went on the six-game winning streak to jump out to a 6-2 start. We showed that by pounding them 22-10 in their house. Coughlin's career is starting to look like a poor-man's Marty Schottenheimer career. Strong regular season, wilts down the stretch and in the playoffs.

The Green Bay Packers are definitely a formidable team, and we'd have to play them in Lambeau where they hold a huge homefield advantage. But we almost beat them this season, in Green Bay. And we're built to be a cold-weather team. We can run, and we can stop the run now.

The Dallas Cowboys are the most complete team in the NFC, it seems to me. If Owens is healthy, our secondary would have its hands full. Last time we played them, Owens torched us for multiple big plays. Except now GW will have a chance to use his adjusted scheme, with Landry playing free safety. Against Dallas the first go-round, GW had not yet adjusted his secondary scheme and TO went off. I doubt he lets Owens do that again. And with these Dallas/Washington games, the teams both get up for the fight. Though a healthy Cowboys squad probably has us outmatched, we would give them a game, and I'd take our coaching staff in a battle of wits over the Dallas staff.

So we're not in the playoffs yet, but can't you see a scenario here in which we could be playing in the Super Bowl, with the way we're playing right now? One tough stat for us is the fact that since the NFL went to a 16-game schedule in 1978, only one team has won the Super Bowl with a 10-6 record during the regular season (1988 49ers, and they had someone named Montana). And we're not even 10-6, we're a 9-7 team if we beat Dallas on Sunday. Only one team has even made the Super Bowl with a 9-7 record (1979 LA Rams). They lost to the Steelers. So based on history, the odds of making it at 9-7 are long indeed.

But it has happened. Let's get in, and then dare to dream![/quote]

In order for us to get to the SB we would have to win 3 straight road games in the playoffs. The odds are just too stacked against us. I honestly don't see us going to Seattle and beating them at home. I'm not sold on Seattle cause they lost to Carolina so that game is winable. But it's going to be tough cause they are real real tough to beat at home.

The Zimmermans 12-29-2007 12:30 PM

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Green Bay is not who we want to play in the playoffs, especially in Lambeau, we aren't a cold weather team, we proved that by the way our skill players played up there in the regular season. However, I would like our chances more so in Dallas, where the rivalry aspect of the game would give us a shot. So I'd say Green Bay with HOF Brett Favre is the last team we want to play.

MTK 12-29-2007 12:30 PM

Re: Sizing up the NFC
 
[quote=skinsfan69;398532]In order for us to get to the SB we would have to win 3 straight road games in the playoffs. The odds are just too stacked against us. I honestly don't see us going to Seattle and beating them at home. I'm not sold on Seattle cause they lost to Carolina so that game is winable. But it's going to be tough cause they are real real tough to beat at home.[/quote]

You didn't see us beating Chicago, NY, and Minnesota either.

Hey, anything can happen once you're in the playoffs.

It's not impossible, the Steelers did it just recently.

MTK 12-29-2007 12:31 PM

Re: Sizing up the NFC
 
[quote=The Zimmermans;398539]Green Bay is not who we want to play in the playoffs, especially in Lambeau, [B]we aren't a cold weather team[/B], we proved that by the way our skill players played up there in the regular season. However, I would like our chances more so in Dallas, where the rivalry aspect of the game would give us a shot. So I'd say Green Bay with HOF Brett Favre is the last team we want to play.[/quote]

So are we a warm weather team??

Teams that run the ball well and play D can play in just about any weather.

railcon56 12-29-2007 12:57 PM

Re: Sizing up the NFC
 
[quote=chrisl4064;398257]I just keep going back to the origional posters first sentence. Lets just beat the cowboys![/quote]
AMEN brother!

Skinsfanmania 12-29-2007 02:15 PM

Re: Sizing up the NFC
 
[quote=Giantone;398437]Does that stuff come in 6 packs?:doh:[/quote]

no, it has to be rolled.

prinzeofmoval 12-29-2007 03:03 PM

Re: Sizing up the NFC
 
[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;398233]If we don't lose anymore key players to injury and make the playoffs we can play with any of them and beat them. Our intangible is our coaching staff. We had GB and Dallas on the ropes, we beat ourself s in those games.[/QUOTE]


yeah if we get in i fear none of those teams.we beat ourselves vs tampa,dallas,giants and green bay

Giantone 12-29-2007 03:32 PM

Re: Sizing up the NFC
 
[quote=Schneed10;398443]Who's got a better shot, the Giants or the Skins?

I rest my case.[/quote]



You need to prove it before you rest it.:spank:

Giantone 12-29-2007 03:33 PM

Re: Sizing up the NFC
 
[quote=Skinsfanmania;398559]no, it has to be rolled.[/quote]


LOL............what ever it takes.

Schneed10 12-29-2007 03:33 PM

Re: Sizing up the NFC
 
[quote=skinsfan69;398532][B]In order for us to get to the SB we would have to win 3 straight road games in the playoffs. The odds are just too stacked against us[/B]. I honestly don't see us going to Seattle and beating them at home. I'm not sold on Seattle cause they lost to Carolina so that game is winable. But it's going to be tough cause they are real real tough to beat at home.[/quote]

That's exactly why I made the point that only one team has made it to the Super Bowl with a 9-7 record, and no team has won it. Three in a row on the road will indeed be tough.

Seattle has been good at home, but they haven't really been tested much. I think it'd be a pretty even matchup.

Schneed10 12-29-2007 03:34 PM

Re: Sizing up the NFC
 
[quote=Giantone;398585]You need to prove it before you rest it.:spank:[/quote]

Did 22-10 in your house not do it for you?

724Skinsfan 12-29-2007 04:35 PM

Re: Sizing up the NFC
 
[quote=Schneed10;398587]That's exactly why I made the point that only one team has made it to the Super Bowl with a 9-7 record, and no team has won it. Three in a row on the road will indeed be tough.

Seattle has been good at home, but they haven't really been tested much. I think it'd be a pretty even matchup.[/quote]

Today, I don't feel a team's record is truly reflective of their "power". Today's 13-3 Dallas and Green Bay teams would lose to any of the 80's greats as well their own 90's counterparts. Tampa and Seattle both could've lost a couple more games this year if they had half the misfortune that we did. Our 9-7 record is not indicative of our team's skill level or balance. We can run, pass and defend both as well. Our special teams are solid. We lost the turnover/injury battle this year which reflects heavily on our regular season. We're not turning the ball over, nor our we hampered by as many injuries.


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