Armstead Released
 

According to CBS Sportsline, Jessie Armstead will be released today.

[url]http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7114659[/url]

I always liked Armstead. He wasn't the flashiest player but he seemed solid and I got the impression he was definitely a team leader. I would have thought they might release Trotter but I guess Trotter is younger and, if he recovers fully from his knee injury, he has a more promising future

What do you all think?

I liked Armstead too, even though he wasn't the same player he once was he was still solid and a good leader. Perhaps Pierce is one of those guys that Gibbs thought needed more playing time?

Wow. Thought he might be a "late" cap casualty. Weakside LB, add that to the list of defensive needs.

Say what you will about his decreased production (compared to his Giants years), he was a consistant performer for us. Our LB's never got a chance to be the unit they were on paper because of our weak line play. Good luck Jesse!

good riddens.

I like Armstead too. He has been one of the most consistent players on D the past couple years and a positive locker room presence. Looks to me like Pierce may have been one of those players that Gibbs was talking about...time for him to step it up! Or they have their eye on someone else from another team like the article implies...

I hate this move...our defense is looking more and more porous.

I agree, I really thought Jessie was one of our more consistant players. He defnitley didnt live up to the palyer he was with NYG, but still was solid overall. I too, am starting to worry about our defense, its jsut seems to be ignored right now. I mean granted the real offseason hasent started, but I dont like watching Jessie go. Peirce shoudl step up in his spot, however, and can be a good playmaker as long as he dosent have stupid penaltys.

Was there a cap need to cut him now? Just seems premature to me.

That's life in the age of Free Agency & Salary Caps
 

Gone are the days where you loved a team, and knew who all of the players were. There are definitely some advantages to having FA & Salary Caps (if you don't believe me, just ask any baseball fan who's NOT a Yankee fan). At the same time, from a fan's viewpoint, it kinda sucks to see guys coming and going each and every year. And with some of the contracts that Danny & Vinny have worked out, these types of casualties are going to be a regular thing for Skins fans for the forseeable future. Adding Portis this year tells me that we'll be seeing other fan favorites being walked out the door soon too.

Best of luck to Jesse. Thanks for your service.

Armstead is unquestionably slowed down from his peak performance years but he is not a stiff.

One reason to keep Trotter and not Armstead has to do with finances and not on-field performance. Trotter's signing bonus has not been amortized much in his two years here and cutting him would create a chunk of "dead money".

I suspect Armstead will catch on somewhere for another season or two if he wants to do that.

I loved Armstead as a Skin, he was amazingly consistent, I called him The Vet. Hopefully he can be brought back at a lower price.

[QUOTE=AnonEmouse]Was there a cap need to cut him now? Just seems premature to me.[/QUOTE]

I think the move was done now to give Armstead more time to be out on the market and find a new team, as opposed to cutting him in the middle of the summer where it's harder to find a team to latch on to

Another reason why we might have cut Armstead is to give us more leverage in the Bailey trade negotiations. By cutting Armstead, we free up additional space, thereby telling teams, "hey, we can keep this guy if we want."

I never liked Armstead. He is a perfect example of how the Skins under Danny always coveted everyone elses players and not thier own. The year they signed Armstead they chose to let Shawn Barber leave town. A hideous decision. Barber was aproaching his prime and Armstead was on the way down but Danny chose style over substance like he often does. you need to wear a different uniform to ring Dannys register.

The article mentions maybe getting Marcus Washington from the Colts. I like that move.

I'm not trying to compare LaVar to Ray Lewis but would he be more effective as a MLB like Lewis?

[QUOTE=smootsmack]The article mentions maybe getting Marcus Washington from the Colts. I like that move.

I'm not trying to compare LaVar to Ray Lewis but would he be more effective as a MLB like Lewis?[/QUOTE]

On the field, Lewis shows amazing discipline - which is the most important thing an MLB can have. LaVar is physically gifted, probably moreso than Lewis, but he would have to restrain himself like he's never done before.

They are planning on moving LaVar to weak side LB. That's why they cut Armstead.

[QUOTE=Bozzy]They are planning on moving LaVar to weak side LB. That's why they cut Armstead.[/QUOTE]
If true, this would greatly improve the defense, in particular the pass rush. I liked Armstead but he no longer has the tools to be a premiere weakside LB. The WLB should be one of the team leaders in tackles and sacks. The WLB is frequently left unblocked at the line of scrimage and covers the runningback on pass plays. When the WLB blitzes on pass plays, he is usually blocked by a RB or FB. Lavar will run over most RB's or FB's and register many sacks next year. I have wanted the skins to make Lavar a WLB since they drafted him.
The strong side LB usually does the dirty work against the tightend and usually gets little glory. We can find a good SLB for cheap in free agency or draft.
While Armstead had decent numbers stats wise, he does not have the speed and game breaking ability that Lavar Arrington will bring to the WLB position.

Then, I really hope the Skins trade down, get some picks, and try to get Teddy Lehman or Michael Boulware. How menacing would it be with LaVar on one side, Lehman or Boulware on the other...

[COLOR=DarkOrange]it has not happened as of 437pm est.anyways it was inevitable.they'll move pierce over there now i guess.[/COLOR]
i hope he catches on with some afc team.

[QUOTE=celts32]I never liked Armstead. He is a perfect example of how the Skins under Danny always coveted everyone elses players and not thier own. The year they signed Armstead they chose to let Shawn Barber leave town. A hideous decision. Barber was aproaching his prime and Armstead was on the way down but Danny chose style over substance like he often does. you need to wear a different uniform to ring Dannys register.[/QUOTE]

I agree 100%. I was so PO'ed to see Barber get the shaft. I hated Armstead for it, and I still have a bitter taste in my mouth over the wholesale changes that happened in the first few years of Danny. Now that Gibbs is in town, I am willing to forgive, But I will never forget.

Re: Armstead Released
 

What ever happened to Jesse Armstead?

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Panthers

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I was just messing around, I wanted to pretend like I was still in college with this thread (I'm a youngin')

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I figured you were, but I didn't want more and more people asking

Any word on Tydus Winans?

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[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/WinaTy00.htm]Tydus Winans statistics - pro-football-reference.com[/url]


What about Tre Johnson?

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must I start a where are they now thread?

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HA, I think that's ok

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there is one somewhere. look and you shall find

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I was really confused until I noticed the article was dated in 2004.

I even pulled up [url=http://www.redskins.com/team/default.jsp]Washington Redskins[/url]
AND
[url=http://www.redskins.com/team/transactions.jsp]Washington Redskins[/url]

...before I noticed.




Don't do that!

Ok, while we're at it, where's Chip Lohmiller? We could use him now. Last I heard, he was running a sports apparel business from his home in Minnesota.

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HA, I was kidding around because of that old Champ thread that someone brought up. At leas that one had some issues that actually matter now, namely the fact that the team didn't waste money on Brown.

Chip was sh*t was I was a kid, I miss him.

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Armstead is bum city. P U Jesse.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;204220]HA, I was kidding around because of that old Champ thread that someone brought up. At leas that one had some issues that actually matter now, namely the fact that the team didn't waste money on Brown.

Chip was sh*t was I was a kid, I miss him.[/quote]

MR. I re-started that old Champ thread!!!

I was actually making a comment about how Courtney Brown was a good non-move espcecially in lieu of the Andre Carter addition.

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all he ever did here as a redskin was collect money for practicing did he?
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