What's the defensive gameplan for NE?
 

You're Gregg Williams: What's the defensive gameplan for slowing down the most potent offense in the NFL? Go conventional? Go nuts? Field 11 defensive backs? Rush 9 guys on every down? What's the solution?

Here's a few stats on the Patriots for consideration (through 7 games):
[LIST][*]39.9 points per game average (1st NFL)[*]432 yards per game average (1st NFL)[*]299.4 pass yards per game average (1st NFL)[*]133 yards rushing per game average (8th NFL)[*]Tom Brady has a 73% completion percentage, has thrown for 2,125 yards, 27 TDs, only 2 INTs. Through 7 games he has a 137.9 rating.[*]Brady has been sacked 7 times in 7 games.[/LIST]
Let's not even consider our offense vs. their defense. How does Williams gameplan for this? Let's be creative!

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I like that 0-0-11 scheme lolol. We're gonna have to come up with just about the most excellent game plan we've ever thought of if we want to win this game. If we try to stop Brady they gash us with the running game. If we sit back and play zone and rush 4 like we've been doing for the last few games Brady will carve us apart. That's why G-Will needs to come up with some creative ass blitzes. He's gonna have to go into the deepest, most secretive part of the playbook and use those plays he's never pulled out before lol. If we keep it close I will be happy for the most part.

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dont say anything about the defensive gameplan NE may have cameras in the warpath locker room they gonna steal it

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I don't think it's going to be as easy as dropping a bunch of people back into coverage. If we do that they will hit us hard for the 5-7 yard running plays up the middle. I think we are going to need GW to come up with a completely different type of D for this week. My biggest worry is, who are we going to put on Moss, and can we afford to double-team him. I don't like our chances of stopping the deep ball this week, and I'm starting to get worried about it.

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pray... a lot.

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seriously though it will be a good battle on our defensive side. We have a top 5 D going against their top offense. The get like 40 points a game and we give under 14. I can see us holding them to under 28 but even if they only score 21, i don't know if our O can even put up 2 TDs on that D. Hopefully sean t will pick off a pass or 2. He is number 1 in the league in ints.


If we only send our 4 guys on the line we will not even get close to brady. Look at the highlights. Brady has a 10 ft. bubble around him. That line f...s every d-line up. THe problem is even with sending 7 people i don't see us getting that much penetration. So i don't know if GW will do more coverage and try to just keep those receivers under raps. But the thing is Brady will pick our brains apart and they can run unlike some of our last few teams we've played.

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No YAC for the receivers and play bend don't break. Play mostly a cover 3 giving up everything under 5 yards and blitz when they hit the red zone. Brady is awesome and very patient so expect to give up 3 points per possession. I think Springs can muscle Moss enough to limit him and Landry and ST need to drill anyone who gets a hand on the ball. Keep the Tackles in tight and force running plays outside where Rocky and MW (who hopefully can play) can limit the RB's if they run.
The best D is going to be Mike Sellers. Stop laughing and hear me out. If Sellers can pound out 3.4 YPC we can have some really long drives, 20+ plays. If we can limit the number of combined possessions to 8 or 9 we might be able to squeeze out a 21-12 victory.

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This is why we signed all of the CB's this offseason and drafted a safety high in the draft. We have the bodies in the in the back seven to at least give them a game. Although their overall talent level is better.
Our pass rush is the key.
If we can get in Brady's face and throw off the timing of the play we will be alright. Dallas' D-line did that for a quarter or two and kept it close. Then they could not sustain it.

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If springs can practice (and I don't want to speculate given his father's condition), then we should play him. Otherwise, I wouldn't be confident in starting a player for a game like this that required a whole week's worth of preparation (esp in the passing game). If springs does in fact practice and play, i think we have a shot of shutting them down (relatively speaking) or rather having the most success at stopping them thus far.

As far as scheming if I was GW I wouldn't try the Detroit tactic, of pressing and sitting back in a zone, b/c Tom Brady will pick apart that zone like Warner did in the 4th quarter...but with more efficiency. The only way to stop brady is to put him on his ass. I think I would give them a taste of their own medicine and play a 3-4. With Washington (if healthy) and/or Carter rushing from a standup position on each side on every play. Give them different looking blitz packages out of that formation too. Rotate as many interior linemen in there as possible so they all stay fresh. Safety blitzes wont work b/c they will take too long and that man could be used in a much more effective way in coverage. Study a LOT of film.

Finally our defensive gameplan should be aided by our Offense. We have to have long sustained drives to keep Brady and the pats offense off the field. That's the only way to stop the Pat's Offense. If we are healthy on offense we can do this. I hope the skins practice screens and checkdowns a lot. Give Mike sellers the ball vs. NE thats their weakness. They're too fast for finesse/outside running and despite what ppl say, their Defense isn't the best at tackling. I think they will have their guards down and be looking forward to Indy the week after.

Remember when the Pats won their 2nd superbowl, we were one of the only teams to beat them that year. They had a bunch of injuries but we were able to get in brady's head and force him to throw 3 picks. I know the teams are completely different but for history's sake we've done it before.

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stop them from scoring points

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All I know is that S. Taylor leads the league in INTs right now. If he continues to "Ball hawk" the field, maybe he can outjump Moss a few times on those prayers of a throw that Brady has been making. Honestly guys, some of those TD bombs to Moss are just jump balls where Brady is asking Randy to outjump everyone, which he is doing. They are just alley-oop passes. Guys like Welker and Stallworth are just as dangerous. Bottom line, the offense HAS to sustain some drives and score TDs this week. We can't have our D out there all day in the second half, we need to win the time of possesion this week to have any chance.

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I'd like to see us stay similar to what we've been doing in terms of staying in the deep shell but mix in some more blitzes.. Moss has never really killed us, even in his 'prime' so with Springs/Smoot/Taylor we can hopefully keep him in check.. McIntosh/Fletcher are going to have to make some plays in space to keep Welker from taking the drag routes and turning them upfield.. I'd try to make them beat us with the running game.. We want a slug it out battle rather than try to match them possession for possession..

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I heard Ditka on the radio yesterday suggest something interesting. How about a
2-4-5 ? Bring in the extra LB and CB and rotate the DL every 2-3 plays. Force them to run the ball, at least that slows the game way down and gives us a chance. IF we get more that 14 points behind, we're toast.

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I think our D needs to play as physical as possible especially with these receivers. Hit Randy Moss in the mouth a few times and he's a different player. What concerns me is you can take Moss out of the game and they can still beat you with Welker and Stallworth.

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I think it will require a Navy Seal team in place of our D to slow them down. They know over 100 ways to kill a man with their bare hands
....I fear it will take them all

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Having Landry and Fletcher not make STUPID dead ball fouls, that keep beaten 3rd down drives alive will help for starters. While Fletcher had an overall good game. Those fouls were unacceptable~!

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The D just has to limit it's own mistakes and play smash mouth football. You are not going to stop them from scoring, but as long as you don't give up the big play, they should be able to keep New England from scoring too much.

The Patriots have not seen a top 10 pass defense yet this year. The Skins currently sit #8, and have a capable secondary to cover Moss, Stallworth and Welker. #5 against the run should stop Maroney/Morris/Faulk from getting their 133 ypg.

The offense needs to help the defense by staying on the field longer than 25 minutes...I think a good defense is going to be a clock-eating offense this weekend.

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[quote=paulskinsfan;367403]I heard Ditka on the radio yesterday suggest something interesting. How about a
2-4-5 ? Bring in the extra LB and CB and rotate the DL every 2-3 plays. Force them to run the ball, at least that slows the game way down and gives us a chance. IF we get more that 14 points behind, we're toast.[/quote]

Sounds like a plan to me.

Carter-Griffin

Fletcher-McIntosh-Godfrey-Blades

Smoot-Rogers-Springs-Taylor-Landry

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[quote=Buster;367444]Sounds like a plan to me.

Carter-Griffin

Fletcher-McIntosh-Godfrey-Blades

Smoot-Rogers-Springs-Taylor-Landry[/quote]

is Marcus Washington definitely out for this game?

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It is worth noting, that though the Pats have put up a gaudy amount of points, the best team they've faced, defensively, is San Diego, at 15th in PA on the season. Four of the teams they've clobbered (Jets, Bengals, Browns, and Dolphins) are in the bottom six point-defending defenses in the league, and of their other victims, the Bills, rank 18th and the Cowgirls 21st.

I'm not saying we are going to shut them down, but we allow the least yards per play (4.3) in the league, are 3rd in fewest points per game allowed, second in 3rd down defense, and 4th in total yards allowed per game.

To put it quite bluntly, New England has not played a defense like ours this year. I would think this game is going to be a point of pride for GGgrilliamsss, as his unit is being asked to carry the offense, so I expect us to play a stout game against the Pats.

If there is any game on the Patriots schedule with "letdown game" written all over it, it's this one.

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Eric Allen said that the best way to stop the Pats is to have a couple of physical safeties that are going to punish the WR's wether they catch the ball or not.

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What's the defensive gameplan for NE?

Don't turn up.

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The skins have a good shot at slowing NE down and winning this game for the following reasons:

NE has been playing too good, so their due for an off week & Indy is up next

Was can shut down their run game...even though they pass 75% of the time

Was has shown it can shut down good offensive passing teams

We have good corners and safeties

We are going to be more physical than NE. I think we'll hear that word once or twice this week.

We tend to play good when you don't expect it

With that being said, we've got to find a way to put up 28pts on offense.

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The defensive gameplan? I think the entire gameplan on both sides of the ball should be close your eyes and pray for a miracle. I love our team, but it ain't happening. In my opinion if we hold them under 30 points in their house it will be an accomplishment. The problem is WE CAN'T SCORE!!

Really though, if we contain Moss deep they're going to kill us underneath with Stallworth and Welker. I can also see a lot of screens going to Faulk and Maroney while we're busy worrying about the deeper passing game. Their D isn't amazing. I think we need to come out firing and try to put some points on the board early. If we're down 21-7 at halftime forget it.

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I fully expect us to get beaten by at least 10 points next weekend, but NEVER count us out of any game. For those of you who are scoffing, let me tell you a tale:

There once was a man named Spurrier, who was revered as wise and shrewd.
But, alas, in the land of Washington, his team was always booed.
But on one given Sunday, his beleaguered team took to the field,
Against a team named the Patriots who thought that Washington’s fate was sealed.
The Patriots were to win the title that year, and were lead by a man named Brady,
But, on that day, the Redskins defense made him look like a tiny ole’ lady.
The Redskins fought and fought like the little engine that could,
And, in the end, the Redskins won even no one thought they would.
So my friends, it is wise to never give up in despair,
For you never know how our beloved team will fare.

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On defense, we match up reasonably well because of our depth. There is no way around Tom Brady though. He is going to pick us apart. But do not forget how good our defense is this year. They and the turnovers they can create will be our biggest asset.

Then you have to remember that our offense could be a AA farm team in their organization if this were baseball. It's going to be a long hard day for our defense, and i will cheer every hit they make.

Our game plan, hit them in the teeth.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;367655]I fully expect us to get beaten by at least 10 points next weekend, but NEVER count us out of any game. For those of you who are scoffing, let me tell you a tale:

There once was a man named Spurrier, who was revered as wise and shrewd.
But, alas, in the land of Washington, his team was always booed.
But on one given Sunday, his beleaguered team took to the field,
Against a team named the Patriots who thought that Washington’s fate was sealed.
The Patriots were to win the title that year, and were lead by a man named Brady,
But, on that day, the Redskins defense made him look like a tiny ole’ lady.
The Redskins fought and fought like the little engine that could,
And, in the end, the Redskins won even no one thought they would.
So my friends, it is wise to never give up in despair,
For you never know how our beloved team will fare.[/quote]Best 6078th post ever!

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I think Taylor should go for Moss's ribs on the first throw towards him.....that's how you stop moss...you pop him right in the midsection....then he becomes a scared little girl....stalllworth i have no solution for

We are just gonna have to mix it up a lot...if we stay in the same zone...brady will adjust and embaress us

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We definitely will make a game of it, I have absolute confidence in that much. Whether we can take it down to the wire at the end I'm not so sure. I'll be predicting a skins win once the mods ask for one.

For the first time this year our db's are going to have to cover 1 on 1. Maybe Grilliams will try & play cover 2 & rush 4, but I just don't see us getting pressure that way. I also think LL will have to play in the box a lot more.

The Pats O line has been phenomenal from what I've seen. Dallas has some speed rushers & they bottled em up all day.

I see GW mixing up calls a lot to confuse Brady, trying to call a blitz at the right time. this team can run & we'll have to respect that too. I think we can match up w/their wr's. Stallworth & Welker are good, but we have the depth to match up. I think we'll get a pick or two if brady goes to Moss a lot.

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Just a reminder to those already writing us off: Remember who had the number one overall offense last year?

Remember what we did to them in THEIR house with a far less talented defense?

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;367689]Just a reminder to those already writing us off: Remember who had the number one overall offense last year?

Remember what we did to them in THEIR house with a far less talented defense?[/quote]

Yeah, that New Orleans game was a good showing. But remember the OTHER two road games we played against excellent offenses:
The Indy game when they put up 36 points, beat us by two touchdowns, and allowed Manning to have 342 yds passing.
The Rams game week 16 when they scored 37, Bulger had 388 yds and Steven Jackson had 150...

New Orleans is proving this year with same team as last year that they are more pretender than contender.

People may laugh at my low expectations for this weekends game, but as a Skins fan I've learned a valuable lesson: expectations are premeditated disappointments and resentments.

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I don't think that anyone is totally expecting a win.

I'm simply pointing out that for those people who are expecting a LOSS to remember this game and to at least have some hope.

Regarding NO, you can't really compare this year to last year. They put up numbers all the way across the board through the whole season and this year they just don't have it.

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Hurt Tom Brady. If he goes down the back up can't play. He came in to relieve Brady against Miami and ended up being benched for Brady. I say activate one of the PS guys take a penalty for a cheap shot and break his freaking arm or go for the knees. Danny Boy can write the fine off on taxes.

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Honestly this defense gives me hope no matter who is on the other side of the field, the sad thing is we will never get to see how good this defense truelly is because of the poor play of the offense. We match up better with them than most teams because of the talent level on our defense, Sean Taylor and Laron Landry are capable of completely taking away the deep ball, and thats what New England loves to do, let Brady throw those same deep balls he threw yesterday, its going to be picked off or someones going to get lit up by Taylor or Landry. Shawn Springs is more than capable of handling Moss and Carlos Rogers and Fred Smoot will take care of Wes Welker and Donte Stallworth and Rocky Mcintosh can run with any TE in this league. London Fletcher can take away the run game all on his own, and Andre Carter is getting better and better with each game that goes by. The defense will never be the problem in this game and it will show until about the third quarter if the offense decides not to show up again. It really amazes me how much people dont realize the talent on this defense, the only thing that scares me against New England is the absolutely certainty that we will find a way to shoot ourselves in the foot.

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[QUOTE=JankySpanky80;367773]Hurt Tom Brady. If he goes down the back up can't play. He came in to relieve Brady against Miami and ended up being benched for Brady. I say activate one of the PS guys take a penalty for a cheap shot and break his freaking arm or go for the knees. Danny Boy can write the fine off on taxes.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't want that. No need to play cheap. Aggressive but fair

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[QUOTE=JankySpanky80;367773]Hurt Tom Brady. If he goes down the back up can't play. He came in to relieve Brady against Miami and ended up being benched for Brady. I say activate one of the PS guys take a penalty for a cheap shot and break his freaking arm or go for the knees. Danny Boy can write the fine off on taxes.[/QUOTE]

lmao, yeah I wouldn't condone an act like that but hell get someone to pull a "Theismann" on his ass.

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Defensive game plan...

Score as many points as we can.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;367782]Defensive game plan...

Score as many points as we can.[/quote]


Ugh... One can only hope!

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It's a tough matchup, to say the least! One thing we've been pretty good at this year is taking away the big play. Make them drive the ball, don't let that deep one just deflate you--at least not too many times.

We must be able to stop the run and get some pressure with our down-4 linemen. We've done a nice job at this, but NE is a step above, and Brady does not get rattled and make mistakes. But at least we need to control the run. Big pressure again on Lodon Fletcher.

Here's what we'd like to do on offense to help out: keep Brady off the field with some ball control. Yes, NE can strike quick, but keeping the shots to a minimum is crucial. If we are to have any chance, IMO, we must establish the run and CP/LB must have breakout games. And we need to hit our first long bomb TD to a wideout. But ballcontroll will help our D, by limiting Brady's touches, and keeping them fresh for the late run game.

They're expecting a cakewalk--the betting line will probably be pretty brutal--plus, Indy is the next week. Maybe we'll get a little something from that, though they are so well coached it won't be much. But any little thing will help!

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WE WILL WIN THIS GAME IF THREE PHASES OF THE GAME OCCUR:

1.The offensive playcalling has to be decisive and unpredictable which means Gibbs may step in on third down plays. If the playcalling is consistent, this will lead to longer drives and keep the Patriots offenses on the sidelines.

2.Send Prioleau and Landry on blitzes and play bump and run on Moss, Welker and Stallworth the way they did against the Lions. Who predicted that Roy Williams would have less than 50 yards in receptions and no TD's?

3.Stay focused and physical. We are the team that beat New England before they went on their 18 game winning streak and the team that made Randy Moss walk off the field out of frustration. If there's a will there's a way.