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Warpath 08-31-2007 05:37 PM

Jags done with Leftwich
 
Live news conference on NFL network with head coach Jack Del Rio where he named Garrard starting QB and its said that Leftwich will be traded or released. Im kind of surprised, but then again his play has not been stellar. Thoughts?

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp07/news/story?id=2999662]ESPN - Sources: Jags to name Garrard starting QB for '07 - NFL[/url]

djnemo65 08-31-2007 05:38 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
Really??? Wow. I think Leftwich is better than his team gives him credit for.

dall-assblows 08-31-2007 05:40 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
can you say vikings?

RobH4413 08-31-2007 05:40 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
I'd take Leftwich in a heartbeat.

I will, however, refuse to give up a draft pick for him. We need to just dig a hole, bury our draft picks there, and not ef with them until April.

sandtrapjack 08-31-2007 05:40 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
Beat me to it, it is on CBS Sportsline now.
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[/SIZE][B][SIZE=2][URL="http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10326672/rss"]Jaguars set to let go of QB Leftwich[/URL][/SIZE][/B]

SmootSmack 08-31-2007 05:43 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
Hey for those of you discussing this in Brunell to Seattle thread let's move the Leftwich discussion here

redskins21x 08-31-2007 05:53 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
leftwich & williams to the skins for brunell and ARE

That Guy 08-31-2007 06:01 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
that's a huge surprise... wonder what went on behind the scenes... garrard really isn't any better.

well, i mean, they've shown they hadn't been big on leftwich before, but it's a pretty stupid move.

724Skinsfan 08-31-2007 06:09 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
[quote=SmootSmack;346031]Hey for those of you discussing this in Brunell to Seattle thread let's move the Leftwich discussion here[/quote]

Wait. Where do we discuss Brunell possibly going back to Jacksonville via trade? And I'm not talking about trading for Leftwich.

sandtrapjack 08-31-2007 06:20 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
[quote=724Skinsfan;346037]Wait. Where do we discuss Brunell possibly going back to Jacksonville via trade? And I'm not talking about trading for Leftwich.[/quote]

ESPN is reporting that the Jags are interested in acquiring a veteran backup for Garrard and Brunnels name was specifically mentioned.

They did not say WHO or WHAT may or may not be traded for Brunnel, but just that getting Brunell back in Jacksonville would be a very popular move there.

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp07/news/story?id=2999662"]"The Jaguars are also trying to acquire a veteran quarterback to serve as a backup and may turn to former Jacksonville QB Mark Brunell."[/URL]

Slinginsammy06 08-31-2007 06:25 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
Leftwich is from DC baby bring him home!!!

sandtrapjack 08-31-2007 06:29 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
When Brunnel is traded, why not get that draft pick back that was used to acquire Kendall?

If Gibbs has no intention of keeping 3 QB's on the roster anyway, the team would make out pretty good getting that pick back.

12thMan 08-31-2007 07:22 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
Brunell could definitely end up back in Jax...interesting turn of events.

Beemnseven 08-31-2007 08:13 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
Leftwich has all the durability of an 8-ounce styrofoam cup.

This doesn't surprise me in the least.

skinsfan_nn 08-31-2007 10:30 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
[quote=Beemnseven;346063]Leftwich has all the durability of an 8-ounce styrofoam cup.

This doesn't surprise me in the least.[/quote]


I agree, and NOT very good to begin with!

IMO, we would be MUCH better off keeping Mark as a backup. If somehow a deal/ release happens to MB, I still don't won't Leftwich in DC PERIOD!

holcknowsbest 08-31-2007 10:39 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
[quote=redskins21x;346035]leftwich & williams to the skins for brunell and ARE[/quote]


your drunk! that is outragous

jsarno 08-31-2007 10:57 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
I guess I am the only one (other than jacksonville) that sees Leftwich for what he is...CRAP!
The man has never threw for over 3000 yards, nor over 15 tds. He was too highly touted out of Marshall and some people here compared him to Marino. I, of course, laughed at that, and I was right. Leftwich was overrated then, and he is likely still a little overrated. He is USELESS people! I'd rather have Palmer than Leftwich, it would not be wise to bring in this guy.

70Chip 09-01-2007 12:59 AM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
[quote=jsarno;346080]I guess I am the only one (other than jacksonville) that sees Leftwich for what he is...CRAP!
The man has never threw for over 3000 yards, nor over 15 tds. He was too highly touted out of Marshall and some people here compared him to Marino. I, of course, laughed at that, and I was right. Leftwich was overrated then, and he is likely still a little overrated. He is USELESS people! I'd rather have Palmer than Leftwich, it would not be wise to bring in this guy.[/quote]

No, no, no you're not alone. Leftwich would be an okay backup but those that don't want him here because he may be a threat to Campbell? Please. If he wasn't a threat to Garard why would he be a threat to Campbell? But, I wouldn't rate him below Palmer. There were a couple of guys I went to grade school with that I wouldn't rate below Palmer at this early stage. This is the perfect example of why we may get more for Brunell than people think. Other teams know he is old and less mobile, but they don't have the history with him that we do. No one is going to boo him in their stadium. Likewise Leftwich has a better reputation with us than he does in Florida. I suspect it wouldn't take too long for that to change, though. I vote no on Leftwich.

saden1 09-01-2007 03:26 AM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
Wow, that's a shocker, espeically at this late stage. I don't think Garrard is any good but what do I know? He reminds me of Seneca Wallace of the Seachickens.

offiss 09-01-2007 04:34 AM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
Why we would want Leftwich here is beyond me, the guy is horrible!

BrudLee 09-01-2007 08:32 AM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
Leftwich isn't bad at all. I prefer my quarterbacks to be able to play a 16 game season - which Leftwich has [B]never[/B] done, but to each his own.

We should get something straight though. [U]No one is going to trade for Leftwich.[/U] He carries a $5.1 million base salary, and has practically no options for starting this year. Even if you have the cap space, Leftwich won't want to sign long-term (for fear he's being undervalued) and has no reason to sign a one year deal for lesser monies out of the goodness of his heart. If he's cut - which will definitely happen before opening day rosters are set (lest he be guaranteed his full salary as termination pay under the CBA) - then there are a number of teams where he'd have a better chance at playing than here. Minnesota's been mentioned, but how about Atlanta? Is Seattle a good fit? I know Byron went to high school in the district, but I don't think that's enough impetus (look it up) to be a guaranteed third stringer.

Schneed10 09-01-2007 08:57 AM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
Leftwich is nothing but a mediocre starting QB in this league. He'll never be more than that. At this stage in his career, he is what he is. There's no upside to having him on the Redskins - we want Campbell to develop into a franchise QB and we don't want a guy like Leftwich steaming because he's backing up a young guy.

Let's all put on our thinking caps here, people. Just because a guy becomes available doesn't mean the Washington Redskins need to acquire him.

2BIG2BSKINNY 09-01-2007 09:08 AM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
[quote=Schneed10;346119]Leftwich is nothing but a mediocre starting QB in this league. He'll never be more than that. At this stage in his career, he is what he is. There's no upside to having him on the Redskins - we want Campbell to develop into a franchise QB and we don't want a guy like Leftwich steaming because he's backing up a young guy.

Let's all put on our thinking caps here, people. Just because a guy becomes available doesn't mean the Washington Redskins need to acquire him.[/quote]

WELL SAID! This fantasy football complex must stop in D.C. we need to deal Brunnell for highest value pick and move on...not Leftwich. JC is our guy long term.

dall-assblows 09-01-2007 09:27 AM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
i cant believe people want this guy here.

skinsguy 09-01-2007 09:37 AM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
I think Leftwich will make a good backup for somebody, but I'm not sure it's in our best interests to have him here in D.C.

Cowell 09-01-2007 10:42 AM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
IMO Leftwich has always been overrated. The only thing that's good about him is he is big and stands tall in the pocket. He is not as mobile as people people think he is and he has just never really been able to get the job done. And why would we trade ARE for Reggie Williams? Whoever said that really must have little knowledge of Reggie Williams.

dall-assblows 09-01-2007 11:45 AM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
[quote=skinsguy;346126]I think Leftwich will make a good backup for somebody, but I'm not sure it's in our best interests to have him here in D.C.[/quote]

thats the problem, he doesnt want to be the backup.

MTK 09-01-2007 02:38 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
[quote=Cowell;346135]IMO Leftwich has always been overrated. The only thing that's good about him is he is big and stands tall in the pocket. He is not as mobile as people people think he is and he has just never really been able to get the job done. And why would we trade ARE for Reggie Williams? Whoever said that really must have little knowledge of Reggie Williams.[/quote]

I agree he's always been overrated.

Garrard simply outplayed him over the past few years and the Jags seem to respond to his leadership more than Leftwich.

LaRon + Sean = Hell 4 U 09-01-2007 02:59 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
Leftwich leaving Jacksonville next stop....... ATL

skinsfan69 09-01-2007 03:24 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
[quote=Mattyk72;346178]I agree he's always been overrated.

Garrard simply outplayed him over the past few years and the Jags seem to respond to his leadership more than Leftwich.[/quote]

I don't know about this move. Garrard had his chance last year and he didn't play all that well. I know he has had a great pre season but to just get rid of Leftwich is kind of crazy. IMO he still has value.

atomicnixon 09-01-2007 07:13 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
I know who's going to be in Atlanta

dall-assblows 09-01-2007 07:19 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
[quote=atomicnixon;346298]I know who's going to be in Atlanta[/quote]

i know whos going to minnesota.

MTK 09-01-2007 08:09 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
[quote=skinsfan69;346210]I don't know about this move. Garrard had his chance last year and he didn't play all that well. I know he has had a great pre season but to just get rid of Leftwich is kind of crazy. IMO he still has value.[/quote]

Garrard posted better numbers than Leftwich last year.

This has been coming down the pike for a while now. Going back to last season there were rumors of Leftwich getting shipped out of Jax.

Bushead 09-01-2007 08:13 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
Weren't there rumours he was coming to Washington a year or 2 back?

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 09-01-2007 08:30 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
I believe it was Dock Walker who predicted he'd be headed to DC....on a side note, man it feels good to be back, my computer sucked all summer long

pg86 09-01-2007 09:32 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
Pick back up palmer screw leftout...yes I did that intentionally.

skinsfan69 09-02-2007 12:08 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
[quote=atomicnixon;346298]I know who's going to be in Atlanta[/quote]

I agree w/ you. If I were Atl. I would be on the phone right away to at least get him in there to back-up Harrington.

I

redskins21x 09-03-2007 03:03 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
For all u Leftwich haters he is 10 times better then Bum ass brunell

mmil12 09-03-2007 04:51 PM

Re: Jags done with Leftwich
 
Honestly, I went to East Carolina when David Garrard played there and he was an absolute STUD! He has shown flashes in the NFL. When he was a free agent two or three years ago resigned as a back-up I was shocked. I thought he was good enough to get a starting job in the league considering you got guys like Joey Harrington, Charlie Frye, etc. I think the Jags are making the right move to start Garrard, the team plays better for him as well.

However, they shouldn't outright cut Leftwich, there is value to be had for him. I am not a proponent of his, nor to I want him on our team, but I would take him in a trade for the aging MB. I can see him going to the Vikings, Miami, Oakland, KC, etc.


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