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Today is Flag Day here in America so if the weather permits please display yer flag proudly. The weather here in Northern VA is raining right now so I can't take mine out just yet and fly it but when it clears up later I sure will.

I love that old flag and proudly have served it and saluted for which it stands.
OhhRAH!

May GOD continue to bless these United States of America and all Her people at home and abroad.
peace
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[url=http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html]Flag Rules and Regulations[/url]

[quote]The History Of Flag Day

The Fourth of July was traditionally celebrated as America's birthday, but the idea of an annual day specifically celebrating the Flag is believed to have first originated in 1885. BJ Cigrand, a schoolteacher, arranged for the pupils in the Fredonia, Wisconsin Public School, District 6, to observe June 14 (the 108th anniversary of the official adoption of The Stars and Stripes) as 'Flag Birthday'. In numerous magazines and newspaper articles and public addresses over the following years, Cigrand continued to enthusiastically advocate the observance of June 14 as 'Flag Birthday', or 'Flag Day'.

On June 14, 1889, George Balch, a kindergarten teacher in New York City, planned appropriate ceremonies for the children of his school, and his idea of observing Flag Day was later adopted by the State Board of Education of New York. On June 14, 1891, the Betsy Ross House in Philadelphia held a Flag Day celebration, and on June 14 of the following year, the New York Society of the Sons of the Revolution, celebrated Flag Day.

Following the suggestion of Colonel J Granville Leach (at the time historian of the Pennsylvania Society of the Sons of the Revolution), the Pennsylvania Society of Colonial Dames of America on April 25, 1893 adopted a resolution requesting the mayor of Philadelphia and all others in authority and all private citizens to display the Flag on June 14th. Leach went on to recommend that thereafter the day be known as 'Flag Day', and on that day, school children be assembled for appropriate exercises, with each child being given a small Flag.

Two weeks later on May 8th, the Board of Managers of the Pennsylvania Society of Sons of the Revolution unanimously endorsed the action of the Pennsylvania Society of Colonial Dames. As a result of the resolution, Dr. Edward Brooks, then Superintendent of Public Schools of Philadelphia, directed that Flag Day exercises be held on June 14, 1893 in Independence Square. School children were assembled, each carrying a small Flag, and patriotic songs were sung and addresses delivered.

In 1894, the governor of New York directed that on June 14 the Flag be displayed on all public buildings. With BJ Cigrand and Leroy Van Horn as the moving spirits, the Illinois organization, known as the American Flag Day Association, was organized for the purpose of promoting the holding of Flag Day exercises. On June 14th, 1894, under the auspices of this association, the first general public school children's celebration of Flag Day in Chicago was held in Douglas, Garfield, Humboldt, Lincoln, and Washington Parks, with more than 300,000 children participating.

Adults, too, participated in patriotic programs. Franklin K. Lane, Secretary of the Interior, delivered a 1914 Flag Day address in which he repeated words he said the flag had spoken to him that morning: "I am what you make me; nothing more. I swing before your eyes as a bright gleam of color, a symbol of yourself."

Inspired by these three decades of state and local celebrations, Flag Day - the anniversary of the Flag Resolution of 1777 - was officially established by the Proclamation of President Woodrow Wilson on May 30th, 1916. While Flag Day was celebrated in various communities for years after Wilson's proclamation, it was not until August 3rd, 1949, that President Truman signed an Act of Congress designating June 14th of each year as National Flag Day.[/quote]
SOURCE: [url=http://www.usflag.org/history/flagday.html]USFlag.org: A website dedicated to the Flag of the United States of America - The History Of Flag Day[/url]

SBF,

I love how the sun has made a cross in the Stars. That is an awesome picture. Did you take that?

[QUOTE=drew54;317880]SBF,

I love how the sun has made a cross in the Stars. That is an awesome picture. Did you take that?[/QUOTE]

You noticed that did ya? It took me a few minutes of search to find it again. No I didn't take it but had a larger version saved on my PC as a background. I love that image.

peace

i display my flag proudly every day. i love this country

Don't even get me started. I am going to slowly walk away from this thread now.

you don't like flag day?

I'm pretty sure that picture isn't a normal flag and that just happened to appear. It was either designed that way or photoshopped.

[QUOTE=angryssg;318215]Don't even get me started. I am going to slowly walk away from this thread now.[/QUOTE]

Thanks but my son's military service these days ensures your freedom of speech if you wanted to bash the Flag or the Cross. I thank you for your respect not to.

peace

[QUOTE=Daseal;318255]I'm pretty sure that picture isn't a normal flag and that just happened to appear. It was either designed that way or photoshopped.[/QUOTE]

I disagree. God doesn't need a guy with photoshop. The sunlight spreads down straight lines between stars where the material is thiner.

I say it's a real untouched photo

peace

[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan;318259]I disagree. God doesn't need a guy with photoshop. The sunlight spreads down straight lines between stars where the material is thiner.

I say it's a real untouched photo

peace[/QUOTE]

Well is it god or is it the material?

hmmm, clearly that's an altered/retouched picture. That picture right there most definitely defies light refraction. Or perhaps the flag was altered to make certain area more dense then others. Someone was definitely feeling Christian and thought it fun to let us all know.

Happy Flag Day.

So, burning or desecrating the flag should be perfectly legal...

Agree or disagree? :)

i am all about ones rights, but i disagree with burning the flag

[QUOTE=Beemnseven;318299]So, burning or desecrating the flag should be perfectly legal...

Agree or disagree? :)[/QUOTE]

No, the law has been written on this question. It's not up for a vote.

Pack a lunch if you want to desecrate it around me bro cus there WILL be a fight. Period. If yer bigger I'll take an ass whopping for the flag but you will not go unchallenged around me.

Semper Fi
mike

[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan;318310]No, the law has been written on this question. It's not up for a vote.

Pack a lunch if you want to desecrate it around me bro cus there WILL be a fight. Period. If yer bigger I'll take an ass whopping for the flag but you will not go unchallenged around me.

Semper Fi
mike[/QUOTE]

Is it your position then, that if someone states a political opinion that you disagree with that gives you the right to assault them?

[quote=Sammy Baugh Fan;318310]No, the law has been written on this question. It's not up for a vote.

Pack a lunch if you want to desecrate it around me bro cus there WILL be a fight. Period. If yer bigger I'll take an ass whopping for the flag but you will not go unchallenged around me.

Semper Fi
mike[/quote]

There are no laws against flag burning that are enforceable because the Supreme Court ruled flag burning is constitutionally protected.

[quote]Supreme Court Strikes Down All Laws Banning Flag Desecration (1989): Outside the 1984 Republican National Convention in Dallas, Gregory Lee Johnson burned a flag in protest against President Ronald Reagan's policies. He was arrested under Texas' flag desecration statute. In its 5-4 ruling in [I]Texas v. Johnson[/I], the Supreme Court struck down flag desecration laws in 48 states by ruling that flag desecration is a constitutionally protected form of free speech.[/quote][quote]Congress has made seven attempts to overrule the U.S. Supreme Court by passing a constitutional amendment making an [B]exception to the First Amendment[/B] in order to allow the government to ban flag desecration. In 1990, when the amendment was first brought up, it failed to achieve the necessary two-thirds majority in the House. After the Republican congressional takeover of 1994, it has consistently passed the House but failed in the Senate.[/quote]

My bad on starting a war here. If you believe great, if you dont, chalk it up to science. I wasn't trying to push my views on anyone. Next time I will send a PM to prevent this.

And I think SBF meant that if you desecrate the flag around him, that he would want to fight. Not a direct personal attack on anyone.

Oh come on.

With all the political discussions we've been having here lately, I thought this one would really take off...

[QUOTE=drew54;318330]And I think SBF meant that if you desecrate the flag around him, that he would want to fight. Not a direct personal attack on anyone.[/QUOTE]

You burn the flag around me and I will punch you in yer punk face is my underlying comment. No if and or buts. I will punch you dead in yer face...bar none. I'll be at Fan Apprieciation Day at Fed/Ex Field....test me if you want.

I don't play this "I talk chit behind a monitor". Burn a Flag around me and I WILL dot yer tater. Period

Semper Fi
ALWAYS FAITHFUL

mike

But...it's nothing personal about anyone at this forum or where ever.

As a Marine I swore an Oath to this Nation, it's Republic and the Flag for which it stands.

If you want to burn my Nation...we fight.
If you want to burn my Republic...we fight.
If you want to burn the Flag for which my Nation and my Republic Stand...we fight.

I stand by this...three months or not.

Burn a Redskins Flag at Fed/Ex Field and I bet someone whoops yer ass. Burn an American Flag at Fed/Ex Field if you want to make a brave statement about your opinion.

peace
mike

[quote=Sammy Baugh Fan;318771]But...it's nothing personal about anyone at this forum or where ever.

As a Marine I swore an Oath to this Nation, it's Republic and the Flag for which it stands.

If you want to burn my Nation...we fight.
If you want to burn my Republic...we fight.
If you want to burn the Flag for which my Nation and my Republic Stand...we fight.

I stand by this...three months or not.

Burn a Redskins Flag at Fed/Ex Field and I bet someone whoops yer ass. Burn an American Flag at Fed/Ex Field if you want to make a brave statement about your opinion.

peace
mike[/quote]

Burn any of the FLAGS mentioned above at Redskins stadium, and I PROMISE YOU'LL HAVE THE WORST ASS WIPPIN YOU'VE EVER HAD!

This reminds me of a scene from an episode of The Simpsons

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[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan;318771]But...it's nothing personal about anyone at this forum or where ever.

As a Marine I swore an Oath to this Nation, it's Republic and the Flag for which it stands.

If you want to burn my Nation...we fight.
If you want to burn my Republic...we fight.
If you want to burn the Flag for which my Nation and my Republic Stand...we fight.

I stand by this...three months or not.

Burn a Redskins Flag at Fed/Ex Field and I bet someone whoops yer ass. Burn an American Flag at Fed/Ex Field if you want to make a brave statement about your opinion.

peace
mike[/QUOTE]

I could understand this point of view if it was YOUR flag that someone stole from you. But what if it was my flag? On my own property?

That's my bottom line -- the flag burning issue is more about property rights than anything else. If I buy a flag for whatever reason [B][U]it is my property[/U][/B]. And not you nor the government have the right to tell me what I can and cannot do with my flag.

[quote=Beemnseven;319082]I could understand this point of view if it was YOUR flag that someone stole from you. But what if it was my flag? On my own property?

That's my bottom line -- the flag burning issue is more about property rights than anything else. If I buy a flag for whatever reason [B][U]it is my property[/U][/B]. And not you nor the government have the right to tell me what I can and cannot do with my flag.[/quote]
this is baloney. the government is in the business of telling people what they can and cannot do. what makes you think your special?

The Government tell people what they can and can't do with there property all the time. Burn your house down and see. Set your car on fire in the street and see. Heck they'll TAKE your house and pay you street value if they want a road there.

Even I have more leg to stand on then your argument. lol

peace and keep the bic away from the flag

[QUOTE=dmek25;319083]this is baloney. the government is in the business of telling people what they can and cannot do. what makes you think your special?[/QUOTE]

Please note, dmek, that this is my opinion, my personal philosophy. Obviously the government does not adhere to that. But that's what I think, and that's the way I think things should be.

[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan;319089]The Government tell people what they can and can't do with there property all the time. Burn your house down and see. Set your car on fire in the street and see. Heck they'll TAKE your house and pay you street value if they want a road there.

Even I have more leg to stand on then your argument. lol

peace and keep the bic away from the flag[/QUOTE]

In most jurisdictions, you won't be able to burn your house down due to the threat you pose to other houses around you. Ditto for your car.

That's not the reason for flag burning laws. They don't try to pass those laws because of the risk you pose by setting something on fire. It's a speech issue only. To the politicians, and some misguided citizens, it's simply a way to control morality -- something this country is very fond of doing.

The Flag picture is REAL.
[url=http://www.snopes.com/photos/patriotic/azflag.asp]Urban Legends Reference Pages: Star-Spangled Banner[/url]

Thanks cpyane for the url

peace

[quote=Sammy Baugh Fan;317879]Today is Flag Day here in America so if the weather permits please display yer flag proudly. The weather here in Northern VA is raining right now so I can't take mine out just yet and fly it but when it clears up later I sure will.

I love that old flag and proudly have served it and saluted for which it stands.
OhhRAH!

May GOD continue to bless these United States of America and all Her people at home and abroad.
peace
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[IMG]http://images.jokaroo.com/1/American%20Flag-E-Bambi.jpg[/IMG]

[URL="http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html"]Flag Rules and Regulations[/URL]

SOURCE: [URL="http://www.usflag.org/history/flagday.html"]USFlag.org: A website dedicated to the Flag of the United States of America - The History Of Flag Day[/URL][/quote]

It's a FLAG of beauty, thanks for the post. I did not catch this last Thursday on Flag Day. Keep up the fine work. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Always a day late and dollar short, it's the thought.

[quote=Sammy Baugh Fan;318258]Thanks but my son's military service these days ensures your freedom of speech if you wanted to bash the Flag or the Cross. I thank you for your respect not to.

peace[/quote]

Apparrently you misunderstood my post. We are on the same side. I am a Christian and a Patriot. I did not feel like arguing the same points and point of view that you were during the course of this thread.

For your own reference look up my previous thread "Flags on Helmets". By the way SSG stands for Staff Sergeant.

Wait didn't you PM me about this already?