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All I hear about on ESPN is how great the Patriots offseason has been thus far. It seems like evey commentator is on this team's nuts and it's blasphemy to say something negative about them. Well here is what I think of the Patriots' new and improved receivers. We'll go in order from crappiest to least crappy.

1) Kelley Washington - Who is Kelley Washington? This guy was a stud at Tennesse, but since then, what has he done in the NFL? Wait, I know, NOTHING! This guy played four season for the Bengals, and the most yards he ever had was 378, and doesn't even have 1,000 career yards. But hey, he does have 9 touchdowns, which is good if you want to be better than Wes Welker (see #2). Laron Landry is going to steal this guy's lunch money.

2) Wes Welker - My man Wes has had 2 touchdowns in the NFL, with low receiving yards. He may be a decent return guy, but he's no Devin Hester. Nothing to be scared of. Plus, he's 5'9 185lbs. So unless he can run like Santanna Moss, which I doubt, this guy better get ready to take a beating come October 28th.

3) Donte Stallworth - Donte Stallworth has a cool name, but guess what, he doesn't have a cool game. He does, however, have an attitude problem, and mediocre numbers. He's not bad a player, he's nothing great either. He's a deep threat guy like Moss, he doesn't want to get hit. Taylor hits this guy once and he's not gonna want to play anymore. To me, he's a speed demon, but doesn't bring much else to the table.

4) Randy Moss - This guy is a wild card. He has had great seasons in the past, but nobody can say for sure if this guy can still play. I do know that's he's getting old, and probably cannot do the same things that he used to. I also know that him and Taylor battled it out in 2004 when we beat the Vikings the last game of the season. Taylor has gained more experience since then, while Moss is entering the second half of his career where a drop in the level of production normally occurs. I see Taylor winning the deep ball matchup here. Plus, we all know he doesn't like to get hit.

Bottom line, ESPN predicts the Patriots to dominate next year, kinda like they predcited the Buckeyes to win the BCS championship, and the Mavericks and Heat to dominate the NBA playoffs this year. Oh wait, and kinda like most of the ESPN analysts picked the Chiefs to upset the Colts to win in the first round of the playoffs this past season.

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I don't buy it. I think the Pats will be good, no doubt. But they are a team that typically thrives with role players, overachievers and great chemistry. All of the recent additions will take time to assemble, and make impact.

This is huge departure from their normal way of 'winning'. But if anyone can pull it off, BB can.

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I don't really disagree with your assessment too much, but Tom Brady was ripping it up with Jabar Gaffney and Reche Caldwell, both of whom are about as good as Kelley Washington. So, I think they'll be much improved by adding Stallworth and Moss.

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[quote=jdlea;305349]I don't really disagree with your assessment too much, but Tom Brady was ripping it up with Jabar Gaffney and Reche Caldwell, both of whom are about as good as Kelley Washington. So, I think they'll be much improved by adding Stallworth and Moss.[/quote]

Seemingly so, but in the NFL it just doesn't work that way. I mean, they're bringing in two new wideouts.

Think about it, what Moss/Stallworth are excellent at, may not be the same thing the other two receivers were excellent at. Does that make sense?

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[QUOTE=12thMan;305351]Seemingly so, but in the NFL it just doesn't work that way. I mean, they're bringing in two new wideouts.

Think about it, what Moss/Stallworth are excellent at, may not be the same thing the other two receivers were excellent at. Does that make sense?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but both Gaffney and Caldwell were new and they were both brought in after the season started. I think with most of the offseason to work, these guys are gonna be very good. Brady can throw it deep, so that'll keep those two busy. Also, both of them are pretty good close to the line, but if they're not, that's actually something they can use Washington for. I think it's gonna work out for these guys.

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[quote=gabe1984;305346]
Bottom line, ESPN predicts the Patriots to dominate next year, kinda like they predcited the Buckeyes to win the BCS championship, and the Mavericks and Heat to dominate the NBA playoffs this year. Oh wait, and kinda like most of the ESPN analysts picked the Chiefs to upset the Colts to win in the first round of the playoffs this past season.[/quote]

They are also considering the addition of Adailus Thomas from the Ravens. That was a very good off-season addition.

Let's not forget that the Patriots were only a Brady mis-read in the fourth quarter of the AFC Championship game away from another Super Bowl trip.

On paper, yeah they have gotten a lot more talented than last season.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;305403]They are also considering the addition of Adailus Thomas from the Ravens. That was a very good off-season addition.

[I][B]Let's not forget that the Patriots were only a Brady mis-read in the fourth quarter of the AFC Championship game away from another Super Bowl trip[/B].[/I]

On paper, yeah they have gotten a lot more talented than last season.[/quote]

Or you could say they were one Charger fumble away from not even playing in the AFC championship.

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They sure have upgraded from last year.

I think Moss is going to be huge for them. A motivated Moss is a very dangerous player.

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[quote=jdlea;305349]I don't really disagree with your assessment too much, but Tom Brady was ripping it up with Jabar Gaffney and Reche Caldwell, both of whom are about as good as Kelley Washington. So, I think they'll be much improved by adding Stallworth and Moss.[/quote]Ripping it up? I'd give you adequate with what he was given.

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I think that Brady will break his leg in the first pre-season game.

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[quote=Mattyk72;305408]They sure have upgraded from last year.

I think Moss is going to be huge for them. A motivated Moss is a very dangerous player.[/quote]Yeah, well, in that case he hasn't been motivated in three years so I fail to see the problem for opposing defenses.

Do we even know if he still can focus if he wants to?

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we have the best Moss in the NFL

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How can you say anything bad about the Pats with their current record. IT SPEaKS FOR ITSELF. Agree with their moves or not they will def. be one of the teams to beat AGAIN this year.

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[quote=gabe1984;305404]Or you could say they were one Charger fumble away from not even playing in the AFC championship.[/quote]Great point.

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Reasons why I think Moss will be motivated:

-New England was the only team he wanted to go to, let's face it Oakland was a hole. That doesn't excuse how he played, but he obviously was miserable out there.

-He's basically playing on a one year deal in New England. He's playing for one last shot at a big payday and one last shot at winning a Super Bowl.

-He's got one of the best QBs in the game throwing him the ball.

-I don't think that locker room will let him be a distraction.

-Belichick is a master motivator, if Moss can't rebound in New England he's not going to rebound anywhere.

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People hardly ever change. Every time one of these guys goes to a new team everyone talks about how this time will be different. It's the Ike Turner syndrome. Moss will be a problem wherever he goes.

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[quote=firstdown;305416]How can you say anything bad about the Pats with their current record. IT SPEaKS FOR ITSELF. Agree with their moves or not they will def. be one of the teams to beat AGAIN this year.[/quote]

I can say something bad about the Pats because I freakin want to. Anytime ESPN continually jumps on a player, coach, or team's nuts, I start to not like them anymore. I'm just trynna give a dissenting opinion here.

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[quote=firstdown;305416]How can you say anything bad about the Pats with their current record. IT SPEaKS FOR ITSELF. Agree with their moves or not they will def. be one of the teams to beat AGAIN this year.[/quote]Well, they certainly are the best team in their division again this year. They are one of the teams to beat in the AFC, but certainly CERTAINLY are not a better team than SD right now. Jacksonville, [I]might [/I]be better, and Pittsburgh and Cincinnati are maybe just as good, and the Colts aren't just going to go away.

The Pats are NOT the favorite to win the SB, but they will be back in the playoffs again this year...so it wouldn't be completely shocking if they won it.

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[quote=Mattyk72;305420]Reasons why I think Moss will be motivated:

-New England was the only team he wanted to go to, let's face it Oakland was a hole. That doesn't excuse how he played, but he obviously was miserable out there.

-He's basically playing on a one year deal in New England. He's playing for one last shot at a big payday and one last shot at winning a Super Bowl.

-He's got one of the best QBs in the game throwing him the ball.

-I don't think that locker room will let him be a distraction.

-Belichick is a master motivator, if Moss can't rebound in New England he's not going to rebound anywhere.[/quote]He's also never had this sort of expectation on him to perform. So we'll see.

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[quote=GTripp0012;305425]Well, they certainly are the best team in their division again this year. They are one of the teams to beat in the AFC, but certainly CERTAINLY are not a better team than SD right now. Jacksonville, [I]might [/I]be better, and Pittsburgh and Cincinnati are maybe just as good, and the Colts aren't just going to go away.

The Pats are NOT the favorite to win the SB, but they will be back in the playoffs again this year...so it wouldn't be completely shocking if they won it.[/quote]Maybe they are not better than a few teams but they seem to be more consistant at winning than any of those other teams in the past years. I do not see them winning the SB but I would not be shocked as they do have the talent.

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[quote=gabe1984;305346]
Bottom line, ESPN predicts the Patriots to dominate next year, kinda like they predcited the Buckeyes to win the BCS championship, and the Mavericks and Heat to dominate the NBA playoffs this year. Oh wait, and kinda like most of the ESPN analysts picked the Chiefs to upset the Colts to win in the first round of the playoffs this past season.[/quote]

Right, and they picked the Skins to win the NFC East before last season.

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I don't know why, but when I read the title of this thread, I thought there'd be pics of all the hot babes Brady has access to these days.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;305444]I don't know why, but when I read the title of this thread, I thought there'd be pics of all the hot babes Brady has access to these days.[/QUOTE]

I thought the exact same thing. I figured this was a thread about Bridget Moynahan and Gisele Bundchen

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NE sat on their pile of money for years and with BB won three super bowls:

Now they have spent up pretty big, as well as aquiring one of the most talented WR's in the entire league and we are debating if they are going to be better?!

It is a drastic change of tact from the Pats, which is one reason they are getting soo much coverage and its all positive because they had plenty of room under their cap for a great LB and only gave up a 4th for Moss; even if he doesn't work out, they've not really lost anything too valuable! They've had a flawless off season, thus far.

It seems fairly certain that they will be better, with Moss, alot better! Surely the deep threat of Brady to Moss and Stallworth, will hold most safties and that should open up things for Moroney, who looked good last year. I think the threat of Moss is enough to change a defence, at least until its known which Moss turns up at the Pats (Vikings or Raiders Moss).

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[quote=Beemnseven;305444]I don't know why, but when I read the title of this thread, I thought there'd be pics of all the hot babes Brady has access to these days.[/quote]

I had to give it a sexy title so that people would read it, lol.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;305447]I thought the exact same thing. I figured this was a thread about Bridget Moynahan and Gisele Bundchen[/QUOTE]

I too was seriously disappointed when I opened this thread and didn't see some "inappropriate for work," freaky nasty pic/vid.

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All I have to say is that when the media believes a team is going to be great, they usually suck....

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[quote=Mattyk72;305420]Reasons why I think Moss will be motivated:

--Belichick is a master motivator, if Moss can't rebound in New England he's not going to rebound anywhere.[/quote]

Agree, and I predict no rebounds for R Moss this season.

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[quote=gabe1984;305346]All I hear about on ESPN is how great the Patriots offseason has been thus far. It seems like evey commentator is on this team's nuts and it's blasphemy to say something negative about them. Well here is what I think of the Patriots' new and improved receivers. We'll go in order from crappiest to least crappy.

1) Kelley Washington - Who is Kelley Washington? This guy was a stud at Tennesse, but since then, what has he done in the NFL? Wait, I know, NOTHING! This guy played four season for the Bengals, and the most yards he ever had was 378, and doesn't even have 1,000 career yards. But hey, he does have 9 touchdowns, which is good if you want to be better than Wes Welker (see #2). Laron Landry is going to steal this guy's lunch money.

2) Wes Welker - My man Wes has had 2 touchdowns in the NFL, with low receiving yards. He may be a decent return guy, but he's no Devin Hester. Nothing to be scared of. Plus, he's 5'9 185lbs. So unless he can run like Santanna Moss, which I doubt, this guy better get ready to take a beating come October 28th.

3) Donte Stallworth - Donte Stallworth has a cool name, but guess what, he doesn't have a cool game. He does, however, have an attitude problem, and mediocre numbers. He's not bad a player, he's nothing great either. He's a deep threat guy like Moss, he doesn't want to get hit. Taylor hits this guy once and he's not gonna want to play anymore. To me, he's a speed demon, but doesn't bring much else to the table.

4) Randy Moss - This guy is a wild card. He has had great seasons in the past, but nobody can say for sure if this guy can still play. I do know that's he's getting old, and probably cannot do the same things that he used to. I also know that him and Taylor battled it out in 2004 when we beat the Vikings the last game of the season. Taylor has gained more experience since then, while Moss is entering the second half of his career where a drop in the level of production normally occurs. I see Taylor winning the deep ball matchup here. Plus, we all know he doesn't like to get hit.

Bottom line, ESPN predicts the Patriots to dominate next year, kinda like they predcited the Buckeyes to win the BCS championship, and the Mavericks and Heat to dominate the NBA playoffs this year. Oh wait, and kinda like most of the ESPN analysts picked the Chiefs to upset the Colts to win in the first round of the playoffs this past season.[/quote]

You are also leaving out the number one pick from last year Chad Jackson and a stud TE.

Bottom line is they have Tom Brady. No one spreads it around like he does. Plus the guy sees the entire field. I mean if they pick up one more first down against Ind. they are playing in the SB. And they would have been playing with some hammy down WR's. So the guys they have now are upgrades. Then you add in Randy Moss. I know a lot of NFL teams would like to have Moss, Stallworth and Kelly Washington/Chad Jackson. I would rather have that threesome then Moss, Lloyd and ARE.

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[quote=hesscl34;305460]All I have to say is that when the media believes a team is going to be great, they usually suck....[/quote]

swallowing displays true love.

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WE definitely need to keep an eye on the Pats & see what the press says about them mid and late season. If the Pats fail or struggle, they will inevitably be compared to the Skins.

They deserve all the praise they get, but I just don't see them taking this team that far. I see 9-7, maybe a wild card. Of course on paper they've improved, but over the last couple of years on paper they've also regressed when they lost key players.

Everybody said they'd slip & they didn't. Well, now we may see at least a slight drop. My reasons for feeling this way are simply that they have changed the formula that got them super bowls. Maybe they will be able to get this team to gel, but in the last 2 years they've let some vets go while now bringing in some vet guys, which seriously alters the team's chemistry.

It also seems like their O line needed some help last year, but I can't say specifically that it's a weakness at all.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;305411]Ripping it up? I'd give you adequate with what he was given.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, 7th in the NFL in passing yards isn't very good considering his targets...yes, I'd say he was ripping it up.

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[quote=skinsfan69;305467]You are also leaving out the number one pick from last year Chad Jackson and a stud TE.

Bottom line is they have Tom Brady. No one spreads it around like he does. Plus the guy sees the entire field. I mean if they pick up one more first down against Ind. they are playing in the SB. And they would have been playing with some hammy down WR's. So the guys they have now are upgrades. Then you add in Randy Moss. I know a lot of NFL teams would like to have Moss, Stallworth and Kelly Washington/Chad Jackson. I would rather have that threesome then Moss, Lloyd and ARE.[/quote]

Yes, I left out the players who were on the team last year on purpose, I was talking about the new additions. And I'll make this point again... You can say that the Pats were one 1st down away from playing in the Superbowl, but I say they were one Charger fumble, a fluke charger fumble at that, from not even playing in the AFC championship.

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[quote=gabe1984;305495]Yes, I left out the players who were on the team last year on purpose, I was talking about the new additions. And I'll make this point again... You can say that the Pats were one 1st down away from playing in the Superbowl, but I say they were one Charger fumble, a fluke charger fumble at that, from not even playing in the AFC championship.[/quote]

Do you really think that anyone is going to jump on your bandwagon and nitpick the Pats? As a Skins fan, I'd love to be in their position right now.

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[quote=Manusky91;305500]Do you really think that anyone is going to jump on your bandwagon and nitpick the Pats? As a Skins fan, I'd love to be in their position right now.[/quote]

This is not a bandwagon. I'm entitled to my opinion. I'm not nitpicking, I'm just making some points.

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[quote=gabe1984;305504]This is not a bandwagon. I'm entitled to my opinion. I'm not nitpicking, I'm just making some points.[/quote]

Unfortunately, your points were weak at best.

Do you remember what Stallworth did to the Skins last year?

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[quote=Manusky91;305505]Do you remember what Stallworth did to the Skins last year?[/quote]Do you remember what play action does to Sean Taylor...like every time?

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[quote=Manusky91;305505]Unfortunately, your points were weak at best.

Do you remember what Stallworth did to the Skins last year?[/quote]

Well Manusky, I respect the fact that you think my points are "weak at best." Fortunately for me, I don't give a shit what you think.
You pointing out that Stallworth had a big game against the Skins last year is really what's weak at best. The Skins had the worst defense in the league. Wow, Stallworth had a good game against the worst defense in the league, I'm really impressed now. He must be awesome.

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[quote=jdlea;305493]Yeah, 7th in the NFL in passing yards isn't very good considering his targets...yes, I'd say he was ripping it up.[/quote]7th=ripping it up?

I thought you were in the "Brunell isn't getting it done" corner because top 10-12 wasn't good enough. Brady was better than 10-12 (at least by pass yardage), but if 7th is ripping it up, and 9th or 12th or whatever Brunell was when he got benched isn't, where's the line?

I thought Brady had a sub par year by his own standards. I don't think Caldwell and Gaffney are world beaters of course, but Brady had done much better with mediocre-to-good guys like Branch and Troy Brown, so I don't think having slightly different mediocre receivers changed very much.

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[quote=GTripp0012;305520]Do you remember what play action does to Sean Taylor...like every time?[/quote]

Yes, damn that QB trickery.