David Macklin our new CB
 

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2827391]ESPN.com - NFL - Gibbs lures ex-Cards CB Macklin to Redskins[/url]

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good pickup, springs must be moving to safety...

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Good depth. Kinda Suprised, I thought we were in pretty good shape?

Nice to see a local product though, went to High School In Newport News, Va. at Menchville High, NICE MOVE!

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[quote=memphisskin;294688]good pickup, springs must be moving to safety...[/quote]
I thought I heard somewhere (don't you love such official sounding quotes) that Springs will probably be a cap casualty?????

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Don't know much about Macklin but if he can help it's a good pick-up.

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Soooo, is Springs gonna be a June 1st casualty? Is he gonna move to safety? I like the depth move though, plus he has good size at 206 lbs.

I also like that the Eagles wanted him and we got him instead.

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We also got this guy bargain priced, vet minimum. Joe did some sweet talking. I think 40k signing bous. CHEAP!

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Interesting. What's up with Springs?

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This might not mean anything for Springs.

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I like this move. I know there were several of us clamoring for him. Good depth. We still have no heir apparent to Springs to be a "#1 corner" though

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2006 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 71 | Key
Alert: None

Comment:
Macklin is extremely competitive and consistent. He works hard and plays taller than his listed size. He is tough, aggressive and can high-point the ball. He has very quick feet and plays under control. He has good short-area skills and is very effective in cover 2. He shows excellent cover instincts, understands route concepts and makes good decisions from off coverage. He can squat and close quickly against three-step drops. He is very effective in run support. He will attack downhill and is a solid hitter and wrap-up tackler. But Macklin lacks quality size and athleticism for the position. He isn't very effective in press coverage. He lacks top-end speed and struggles to recover if his jam isn't perfect. He has some trouble downfield against bigger receivers and on jump balls. He is much more effective in the slot than out on an island.

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good pickup. we'd be foolish not to restructure Springs to keep depth or move him to FS

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[quote=SkinsFanSince91;294703]good pickup. we'd be foolish not to restructure Springs to keep depth or move him to FS[/quote]

Not so sure SS is willing to restructure.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;294704]Not so sure SS is willing to restructure.[/quote]

Players are always willing to "restructure" as that always favors the player. Shawn Springs was unwilling to take a paycut, for obvious reasons.

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[quote=Skin Patrol;294705]Players are always willing to "restructure" as that always favors the player. Shawn Springs was unwilling to take a paycut, for obvious reasons.[/quote]


WRONG! Players are not ALWAYS willing to restructure. That makes NO SENSE.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;294706]WRONG! Players are not ALWAYS willing to restructure. That makes NO SENSE.[/quote]

A simple restructure means the player gets their money up front rather than later on. Why would a player not be willing to do this in your opinion?

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[quote=Mattyk72;294708]A simple restructure means the player gets their money up front rather than later on. Why would a player not be willing to do this in your opinion?[/quot

In this case there has been to much talk about SS not even being here next year to begin with. No one shoe fits all, not ALWAYS is a player willing to restructure.
What would be the be motivation for him to restructure to help the team?

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;294713][quote=Mattyk72;294708]A simple restructure means the player gets their money up front rather than later on. Why would a player not be willing to do this in your opinion?[/quot

In this case there has been to much talk about SS not even being here next year to begin with. No one shoe fits all, not ALWAYS is a player willing to restructure.
What would be the be motivation for him to restructure to help the team?[/quote]

Money in his pocket.

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[quote=Mattyk72;294715][quote=skinsfan_nn;294713]

Money in his pocket.[/quote]
That would depend on the terms of the restructure.......correct?

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;294717]
That would depend on the terms of the restructure.......correct?[/quote]Generally, restructure means more money up front. Thers's other ways to restructure, usually involving an extention of some sort, but when the term restructure is thrown out with no qualifier, it's almost certainly referring to a base salary being converted into a signing bonus.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;294704]Not so sure SS is willing to restructure.[/QUOTE]

I'm willing to restructure, just don't feel I need to take a pay cut. Matty knows my stance on this. I'm sure a deal will be worked to keep me here through 2011. :)

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[quote=TenandSix:Unacceptable;294699]Interesting. What's up with Springs?[/quote]

Nothing, it's blantently apparent that you depth at corner in our defense if you are going to be successful. Remember last year?

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ok, let me ask the obvious. can this guy play, or are we too worried about how much money the players are making?

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With a grade of 71 and his experience. Macklin is a solid pickup for depth, and they got him bargain priced.

Best of both worlds in my opinion. GOOD MOVE!

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local guy from newport news i believe, adds some experience and depth. probaly a nickel guy at best, but i like this signing

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I have heard repeatedly that spring is not willing to rework his deal. In an interview he stated "I will be in Washington if they pay me what my contract says" I dont think he is going to do any reworking of any contract. If he was going to do that, I think he may have all ready done it.

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So what are our chances of trading Springs now? I find it hard to believe that the Skins aren't persuing that. We've got four guys who can start. Not the greatest in the world but all of them are starting quality on most teams. Four is a lot.

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[quote=SmootSmack;294726]I'm willing to restructure, just don't feel I need to take a pay cut. Matty knows my stance on this. I'm sure a deal will be worked to keep me here through 2011. :)[/quote]

I get the feeling that Matty may be willing to convert a percentage of your enviable salary into a bonus to keep you happy. With all that extra you should be able to enjoy some of the finer window-service irish cuisine.

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[quote=FRPLG;294760]So what are our chances of trading Springs now? I find it hard to believe that the Skins aren't persuing that. We've got four guys who can start. Not the greatest in the world but all of them are starting quality on most teams. Four is a lot.[/quote]This massive depth build up could just be due to a fear of getting bit in the ass again just like last year.

The tricky thing with Springs is trying to predict the point in time at which Rogers' natural progression and Springs' natural regression will cross paths (assmuning that Rogers is good at all). At that point, keeping Springs on the roster (at least as a corner) doesn't make much sense. So if they get rid of him this year, its in essense a big gamble trying to predict that:

a) Springs' production is about to fall off the map
b) Rogers' production is about to spike
c) a mixture of the two

I wouldn't take that gamble just yet. I would keep Springs and Rogers as the starting corners to get another year of experimental feedback. If Rogers appears to be making progress and Springs appears to be slipping, I'd cut bait with #24 after this season. Cutting him now is just a big gamble, especially since teams in our division could have interest in him.

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[quote=GoSkins!;294764]I get the feeling that Matty may be willing to convert a percentage of your enviable salary into a bonus to keep you happy. With all that extra you should be able to enjoy some of the finer window-service irish cuisine.[/quote]

Close. I was thinking along the line of a tee shirt to wash his windows!

That should be plenty. Get what ya pay for! :spank:

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Um, can you say nickel?

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How does this affect our other CBs? Who are the starters? Who plays dime?

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macklin would be our dime corner id imagine. hes not better than springs, rogers, or smoot for sure, but he is better than jimoh

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;294689]Good depth. Kinda Suprised, I thought we were in pretty good shape?

Nice to see a local product though, went to High School In Newport News, Va. at Menchville High, NICE MOVE![/quote]

oh no, a monarch! I always liked the Laker like colors though

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depth on the cheap & JG talked him out of goin elsewhere in the nfc!
we really have upgraded the db's assuming we don't cut springs.

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[quote=freddyg12;294783]oh no, a monarch! I always liked the Laker like colors though[/quote]

What up Freddy. I'm not.....I'm a PHANTOM #1, I do have one daughter that's still a Monarch and son at UVA, the colors and school are real good. The football team has much to be desired?

When Macklin was a Monarch the team was much better. Local boy does good, nice to see him comin home!

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O.k. I know I should let this go but I can't.

Please for my benefit, will one person in the Warpath forum explain to me how moving Springs to safety would make any sense next year? I have asked this before and did not receive a response. Even more baffling would be cutting him.

Let's get the facts out on the table:

There is no top corner available and certainly no one is going to come cheaper than Springs.

David Macklin is no Springs. He probably isn't as good as Smoot or Rogers so why do people think that signing him means Springs is going to be traded or released on June 1st?

The Redskins do not have any cap issues right now so a Springs restructure is not needed.

If they cut Springs they make a mediocre defense (at this point in time) worse. Everybody and their third cousin knows that the problem last year was defense. The big signings in the offseason were made to bolster the D and create depth on a terrible 2006 unit. If they release Springs or move him to safety they have taken one step forward and two steps back.

Springs is the best corner on the team. No one can argue that. He has the ability to shut down or slow down the other team's best receiver on a consistent basis. No other corner on the team has shown this ability. Rogers and Smoot are good against the run but not as good as Springs.

Springs is the highest paid player in the secondary (if not the entire D). Why would you put that player in a safety role because you picked up two guys who didn't work out on their last teams?

So, please, explain to me why cutting him or removing him from one of the most important positions on the defense would make any sense whatsoever.

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[quote=SmootSmack;294726]I'm willing to restructure, just don't feel I need to take a pay cut. Matty knows my stance on this. I'm sure a deal will be worked to keep me here through 2011. :)[/quote]

How we just cut you, or a 3 month ban. It's up to you. ;)

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its a good pickup

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off the topic but does anyone know about a warpath site for the panthers